Cox's departure

[gtowndynasty]

I know this has been discussed in other threads, but there has been no central place for it so I am starting a thread.

I am beyond puzzled and am asking to be enlightened either thru this thread, or pm, but why was this guy so thoroughly trashed here, when it seems obvious to me that he was important to our recruiting efforts. At least the rivals guys and other guys on the circuit agree with this assertion. Please see content on rivals where Meyer and Bossi both point to Cox as one of the primary effects of Rutgers recent recruiting success.

basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1129836

So are we as fans just in denial and refuse to believe this guy was a crucial piece? Or is there actual evidence on the topic that he was ineffective here, because he sure seems to be effective at Rutgers and I REFUSE to believe Rutgers is an easier sell than Georgetown.

And I am not saying that to slight Kirby, but I dont know why the two couldnt be retained together. It certainly seems we let the wrong assistant go, assuming somebody had to be let go to bring Kirby on.

Thoughts, info, anything??

[idhoya]

Cox is gone. Why do we need a thread about it? For good measure, GU didn't let Cox go; he left. He became the associate head coach @ RU. It pays him more money and it gets him closer to a HC job, which we know he wouldn't have gotten @ GU. A search was done with the intent to bring in a qualified, connected, experienced grinder on the trail. Enter Rob Kirby.

[SFHoya99]

We didn't let Cox go. Rutgers offered him a promotion and more $. We obviously didn't feel it was worth it to match.

There's a variety of reasons why people are as high on Cox as on the national board. Nearly all of it is conjecture/unverified "inside info":

- There's no doubt that Cox has done well for Rutgers. Of course, all those guys are spoon-fed from his DC Assault ties to Curtis Malone. He's not getting the elite guys from DCA (Quinn Cook, for example), but he's getting the next rung down.

We're weren't getting those guys through Cox, probably a combination of not wanting some of them while he was here, some of Cox not being able to deliver the truly elite and supposedly because Curtis Malone hates us because Jeff Green didn't pick his hand-picked agent, supposedly at JT, Jrs.'s intervention. (Never mind it's Jeff's decision, and Falk v that guy managin Beasley's career is a no-brainer).

Is the story true? Who knows?

Whatever the reason, who did he sign for us? Perhaps he just needed more time.

- Cox was rumored to be a bit lazy on the trail despite being personable, relying on his DCA connections. I have no idea if that is true.

- Cox was looking for a new job almost immediately after he got here as he is climbing the ladder at all costs.

- There's the impression that he's not much of a coach. He's been a college coach for only three years or so and he's moved up, but he doesn't have 10 years of coaching in college or anything.

[gtowndynasty]

Sept 23, 2010 14:55:44 GMT -5 SFHoya99 said:

We didn't let Cox go. Rutgers offered him a promotion and more $. We obviously didn't feel it was worth it to match.

There's a variety of reasons why people are as high on Cox as on the national board. Nearly all of it is conjecture/unverified "inside info":

- There's no doubt that Cox has done well for Rutgers. Of course, all those guys are spoon-fed from his DC Assault ties to Curtis Malone. He's not getting the elite guys from DCA (Quinn Cook, for example), but he's getting the next rung down.

We're weren't getting those guys through Cox, probably a combination of not wanting some of them while he was here, some of Cox not being able to deliver the truly elite and supposedly because Curtis Malone hates us because Jeff Green didn't pick his hand-picked agent, supposedly at JT, Jrs.'s intervention. (Never mind it's Jeff's decision, and Falk v that guy managin Beasley's career is a no-brainer).

Is the story true? Who knows?

Whatever the reason, who did he sign for us? Perhaps he just needed more time.

- Cox was rumored to be a bit lazy on the trail despite being personable, relying on his DCA connections. I have no idea if that is true.

- Cox was looking for a new job almost immediately after he got here as he is climbing the ladder at all costs.

- There's the impression that he's not much of a coach. He's been a college coach for only three years or so and he's moved up, but he doesn't have 10 years of coaching in college or anything.

SF-thanks for the info. That is what i was looking for. I was not aware of all the politics involved..

[SFHoya99]

To be fair, I'm like 9th-hand on all these. It's all stuff that's been posted or alluded to at time. How much is true? I dunno.

What is true: Cox left Pitt after one or two years, and applied for a job at Memphis one year into being at GU. Also true (I think): he never really landed the big fish for us, unless I'm mistaken. Markel was really JTIII's, I think. I think Lubick was a Hunter recruit. Neither Monroe nor Clark was him.

[idhoya]

Markel was Markel. He, like Clark, always liked GU and wanted to come. Didn't really matter once he got the offer.