The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Aug 24, 2010 16:58:11 GMT -5
1600 years ago today, Rome fell: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11066461The Roman Empire lasted for a few more decades, but for all intents and purposes the city that had dominated the known world for the previous 800 years permanently lost its status and grandeur on that day. The world has never been the same since. |
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Aug 24, 2010 18:06:58 GMT -5
While true that this was the fist successful invasion of Rome, I'd put the end of the Roman Empire about 15 years earlier, when it was officially divided into East and West.*
So, you know, when Rick Perry and Jan Brewer secede and annex New Mexico, say goodnight sister.
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(*Diocletian divided it 100 years earlier, but this was the more significant division.)
Greatest civilization in history. Period.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Aug 24, 2010 18:14:58 GMT -5
I was there and Boz is correct.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 24, 2010 19:07:58 GMT -5
Rome was sacked in 410 but the Visigoths were out of town less than a week later, so I wouldn't say that the empire "fell". After all, Washington was overrun by the British in 1812 and the USA didn't cease to be. And Rome had lost its grandeur well before 410, but certainly after Constantine I.
The official date for the end of the (Western) Roman Empire was 476.
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rosslynhoya
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Post by rosslynhoya on Aug 25, 2010 7:58:00 GMT -5
Rome was sacked in 410 but the Visigoths were out of town less than a week later, so I wouldn't say that the empire "fell". After all, Washington was overrun by the British in 1812 and the USA didn't cease to be. And Rome had lost its grandeur well before 410, but certainly after Constantine I. The official date for the end of the (Western) Roman Empire was 476. ...and the official date for the end of the (Eastern) Roman Empire was 1453. You know, when a bunch of individuals who didn't really represent true Islam which everyone knows is obviously quite peaceful sacked the cultural icon at the center of the civilization and replaced it with a mosque. /just saying |
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 25, 2010 10:29:18 GMT -5
Really, Rosslyn? Talk about an intellectually dishonest commentary.
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Aug 25, 2010 14:51:34 GMT -5
Rome was sacked in 410 but the Visigoths were out of town less than a week later, so I wouldn't say that the empire "fell". After all, Washington was overrun by the British in 1812 and the USA didn't cease to be. And Rome had lost its grandeur well before 410, but certainly after Constantine I. The official date for the end of the (Western) Roman Empire was 476. ...and the official date for the end of the (Eastern) Roman Empire was 1453. You know, when a bunch of individuals who didn't really represent true Islam which everyone knows is obviously quite peaceful sacked the cultural icon at the center of the civilization and replaced it with a mosque. /just saying Constantinople was also sacked by the (Christian) Crusaders in 1204, two centuries before the Muslims took the city. They were, of course, greeted as liberators. Honestly, though, the Crusaders were so nice and peaceful, I don't understand why the Muslims reacted so angrily. |
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