GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Aug 2, 2010 20:09:52 GMT -5
I'm actually fairly serious about this. Austin could shoot 50% and I don't think anyone would blink. We already finished the Big East season shooting 40% in-conference last year. Chris is the only one who is even mediocre from outside of the returning players. Lubick shot almost 50% from three in high school.
I don't know how it translates to wins but if anyone told me I'd write this in the JT era, I'd say they were insane.
But yeah, these are potentially the mad bombing Hoyas.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 2, 2010 21:36:28 GMT -5
I'm actually fairly serious about this. Austin could shoot 50% and I don't think anyone would blink. We already finished the Big East season shooting 40% in-conference last year. Chris is the only one who is even mediocre from outside of the returning players. Lubick shot almost 50% from three in high school. I don't know how it translates to wins but if anyone told me I'd write this in the JT era, I'd say they were insane. But yeah, these are potentially the mad bombing Hoyas. Giga... as usual you raise an interesting possibility. Our guys are certainly capable of bombing away. But are you accounting for the changed defenses our guys will face now that Greg will no longer be taking up so much attention and energy? Opponents will be concentrating on stopping our perimeter game because our inside game is likely to be significantly diminished.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 2, 2010 21:46:03 GMT -5
I think julian will punish people for focusing too much on the perimeter.
In addition with so many shooters on the roster it'll be impossible to cover all of them especially with chris and austin's driving ability. I think we'll see a lot of kick outs to open shooters.
Plus our tall shooters like hollis and bowen are really hard to cover.
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Post by HometownHoya on Aug 2, 2010 21:55:36 GMT -5
EDIT: HSB beat me to it :/ Didn't Julian have a high % for most of the year last year? Anyway I hope that our bigs don't have more then 30 attempts combined throughout the year.
I also think JB could hurt our % but he is usually smart enough not to take 3s and find his shot.
While all of our guards and SFs are capable of shooting that high of a percentage, I don't know if they can all do it consistently every game throughout the season.
I could see Austin leading the nation in 3pt% and the Hoyas leading in eFG% though.
SirSaxa: good point about Greg being gone...fortunately though Chris can drive and score or dish if they overplay the 3pt shot, Austin can drive and score, pull up, or dish, and the rest of our ball handlers can either pass until they get an open shot or create some for themselves. Hopefully they do actually key in on our perimeter game because that will open up our bigs for easy 1 on 1 points.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Aug 2, 2010 22:28:18 GMT -5
No they wont'--they'll take too many 3's to shoot that well and Wright's had an awful summer in terms of actually making shots from 3pt range in games--but he's hoisted a lot of shots. Key is to understand when to take a 3 and ball/player movement.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 3, 2010 2:37:32 GMT -5
No one has shot the ball really well fom three in the KL this summer. Truth is they never shoot well in the KL. Austin has never had a great summer when it comes to making three point shots during summer league games. Jason had a much better percentage in actual Big East play than he did during summer contests in McD. It doesn't mean anything. And Chris plays more under control while suiting up for the Hoyas than he does when playing for the Tombs or Clydes or Hot Tub Time Machine. Taht has been the pattern so why will it change now? Also the Hoyas were one of the best three point shooting teams last season. Whether they'll be #1 next season is too tough to predict (and probably unimportant) but certainly they have the ability to be one of the top shooting teams again next season.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Aug 3, 2010 7:30:01 GMT -5
I'm actually fairly serious about this. Austin could shoot 50% and I don't think anyone would blink. We already finished the Big East season shooting 40% in-conference last year. Chris is the only one who is even mediocre from outside of the returning players. Lubick shot almost 50% from three in high school. I don't know how it translates to wins but if anyone told me I'd write this in the JT era, I'd say they were insane. But yeah, these are potentially the mad bombing Hoyas. Giga... as usual you raise an interesting possibility. Our guys are certainly capable of bombing away. But are you accounting for the changed defenses our guys will face now that Greg will no longer be taking up so much attention and energy? Opponents will be concentrating on stopping our perimeter game because our inside game is likely to be significantly diminished. That certainly is possible but our offense isn't a pure post offense so we really just need one competent guy down there and that's JV. We'll be 1-4 the whole time anyway. With our motion Austin has as much of a chance of triggering a kickout as Chris or JV. Plus with 4 shooters as HSB said, it's tough to cover. So I'm not worried about us getting the looks. Look at Marquette. They were 5th in the country last year and took over a third of their shots from outside with nearly no post presence. The part of the offense that worries me is exactly that we're living and dying by jump shots. I just think this team will live a lot more than they die on offense. In crunchtime when we need easy baskets? Not feeling so good. But overall threes during the game? It should be pretty impressive.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Aug 3, 2010 7:53:33 GMT -5
Giga, I think we'll be fine in crunch time this year, as I think both Austin and Chris gained a lot of experience in "taking over" type situations last year. If both keep improving on that, teams will have a bunch of stuff to guard at the end of games, be it drives or open looks. I do hope the team doesn't settle into jump shots, because they have the ability to do so much damage by keeping teams honest with drives to the goal. I also like the fact that Austin, Chris and Jason can all take some punishment going for shots inside, too, which is helpful in close games in getting to the foul line (and also opening up wide-open kickouts). Defending on the possession AFTER our crunchtime score was a problem last year, and a questionmark this year.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 3, 2010 9:23:02 GMT -5
wowwowowowoowoww hope you are WRIGHT but we will see big prediction if we DO we will do quite well in the big east for sure if NOT we will see go hoyas SHOOT THE LIGHTS OUT yes.. ps i assume moses will NOT TAKE THREES CORRECT ??
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 3, 2010 9:54:13 GMT -5
Julian is a nice post player versus smaller or similar players. He'll struggle when he needs lift, which he simply doesn't have.
That said, this team can shoot. And I'm not overly worried about having Chris and Austin be the creators. Yes, it'd be better with Greg. But the lineup is often going to have a post player, three legit shooters and two legit half-court creators. That'll work. It just won't get an offensive rebound EVER, so we can't afford to turn the ball over. Julian, I'm looking at you.
We'll be a very good three point shooting team.
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Post by bmartin on Aug 3, 2010 16:11:56 GMT -5
May lead in effective fg%. Good 3 pct and lots of layups from backdoors and drives when teams overplay the perimeter.
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Post by jgalt on Aug 3, 2010 19:56:41 GMT -5
Some one has too, i suppose. So why not?
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