1227
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Post by 1227 on Jul 28, 2010 11:52:37 GMT -5
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BigmanU
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Post by BigmanU on Jul 28, 2010 12:11:23 GMT -5
# 3 rated College Basketball team. I'm actually not to surprised by this. Good find.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Jul 28, 2010 12:29:38 GMT -5
I have personally hated quite a good number of those teams.
Pretty good job by SI.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jul 28, 2010 12:34:47 GMT -5
I love to support a team that is HATED--and my response:is to go EXPLETIVE themselves.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Jul 28, 2010 12:38:53 GMT -5
I love to support a team that is HATED--and my response:is to go EXPLETIVE themselves. Translation: "I, RDF, am a huge frontrunner!" Ba-ZING!!!! ;D (just kidding; had to do it though) |
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 28, 2010 12:51:36 GMT -5
On #14, I love this quote: "In the aftermath of the controversial finish to the Gold Medal game, Davis famously led the United States team in a refusal to accept the Silver Medal and has a provision in his will that neither his wife or children may accept the medal after his death. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Davis_(basketball) |
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Post by jkhoya12 on Jul 28, 2010 14:35:02 GMT -5
I honestly don't see how the 1984 Hoyas touch any of these teams....especially #24, but ok.....I mean how about this year's Duke team which stomped on the hearts of the underdog Butler Bulldogs. Can't tell me most of America wasn't rooting for Butler there.
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 28, 2010 14:42:49 GMT -5
I honestly don't see how the 1984 Hoyas touch any of these teams....especially #24, but ok.....I mean how about this year's Duke team which stomped on the hearts of the underdog Butler Bulldogs. Can't tell me most of America wasn't rooting for Butler there. There's a difference between generic dislike of Duke, as most of America is wont to do, and the fear and hatred inspired by Georgetown. The assumption in the 80s was that Georgetown's fans were gangbangers and thugs, and that it was reciprocated by the players (there's a lot of race-based stuff associated with this, and Thompson accepted - one might even say embraced - it. The Hoyas played a brutally efficient defensive game that wore down opponennts and humiliated them. They were essentially the equivalent of the Detroit Pistons of college basketball. Complain about how the game is "too black"? Root against Georgetown. Complain about how there's no free-flow in the game and it's brutal to watch? Root against Georgetown. You know how Simmons won't shut up about Laimbeer? That's what Georgetown was. I'd actually rank them #15 - below the Soviets but above 2005 USC, 1993 Notre Dame, and inferior Raiders and Athletics outfits. |
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jul 28, 2010 14:52:08 GMT -5
I've never hated teams more then Duke's Laettner Era--they were pompous, "loved by media" and had the single most hated player I've ever seen--Laettner--who also happened to be one helluva college player--although he still had no business on the Dream Team.
Never will like Duke--but I don't hate them like I used to--I tire of the portrayal of them and flat out sucking up from media but their team doesn't bother me at all--see them in a much more impartial light--and still think last year's team winning was Coach K's best coaching job--that team wasn't very talented but they stuck together, accepted roles, and played tough defense.
I hate Butler and last year's Butler FAR more then Duke. Butler is a team that everyone "loved" and they are what Duke was/is--except with far less basketball ability. They flop, they get most of their pts from FT line, and in the one area I can't stand that Duke has never done--they don't score points. They combined to shoot 32% from the field in the Final Four and were a bounce off the rim from winning the national title. I think they have a few guys who are excellent players and good on defense but they also grab, hold, trip, tackle, you name it on defense and it's annoying. CinderFELLA needs to be beaten to a pulp because they often aren't best team--they are most "loved" and that momentum carries them and often it's a joke--whether it's in close calls influenced by crowd loving the "underdog" to letting them get away with more due to their inferior talent.
Anyone who pulls for Butler--should pop in the Davidson video of their theft against Georgetown in '08 and tell me that is a "great team". 9 EXPLETIVE OFFENSIVE FOULS IN A GAME??? When's the last time you saw that? Opposing team's best player fouls out to help them as he was difference they couldn't defend and just utter theft of a game by crooked officials who easily are influenced by crowd and the "CinderFella" effect. To this day I want to take Stephen Curry's head and smash it to pieces with a sledgehammer.
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kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Jul 28, 2010 16:40:58 GMT -5
I honestly don't see how the 1984 Hoyas touch any of these teams....especially #24, but ok.....I mean how about this year's Duke team which stomped on the hearts of the underdog Butler Bulldogs. Can't tell me most of America wasn't rooting for Butler there. That's a pretty myopic view. That's like saying last year's Colts, if they had won the Super Bowl, would be a hated team because most of America was rooting for the Saints. |
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Jul 28, 2010 18:12:32 GMT -5
hope more fearcoming this year YUP
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Post by centercourt400s on Jul 29, 2010 8:42:06 GMT -5
just utter theft of a game by crooked officials who easily are influenced by crowd and the "CinderFella" effect. To this day I want to take Stephen Curry's head and smash it to pieces with a sledgehammer. Ok, deep breaths big fella... Ha ha, I was mostly with you up until the corruption allegations and the homicidal rant. ;D Ultimately Davidson won because Curry shot the lights out and we couldn't stop him. |
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Jul 29, 2010 11:20:35 GMT -5
I honestly don't see how the 1984 Hoyas touch any of these teams....especially #24, but ok.....I mean how about this year's Duke team which stomped on the hearts of the underdog Butler Bulldogs. Can't tell me most of America wasn't rooting for Butler there. There's a difference between generic dislike of Duke, as most of America is wont to do, and the fear and hatred inspired by Georgetown. The assumption in the 80s was that Georgetown's fans were gangbangers and thugs, and that it was reciprocated by the players (there's a lot of race-based stuff associated with this, and Thompson accepted - one might even say embraced - it. The Hoyas played a brutally efficient defensive game that wore down opponennts and humiliated them. They were essentially the equivalent of the Detroit Pistons of college basketball. Complain about how the game is "too black"? Root against Georgetown. Complain about how there's no free-flow in the game and it's brutal to watch? Root against Georgetown. You know how Simmons won't shut up about Laimbeer? That's what Georgetown was. I'd actually rank them #15 - below the Soviets but above 2005 USC, 1993 Notre Dame, and inferior Raiders and Athletics outfits. There's also something else to our "hated" status back then, something that didn't have to do with race at all -- The NY media types were in love with Syracuse and especially St. John's at that time. GU squashed both of those teams' fans championship (both Big East and NCAA) dreams. And they did it in hard-nosed, defensive style (ironically, the trait most-loved by most truly knowledgeable NY area sports fans, which I'm sure just made it all the more maddening). If you can make it there, you'll make it anywhere, and if you can be really hated there, you know you've made it, too. |
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Post by centercourt400s on Jul 29, 2010 12:41:34 GMT -5
It is easy to forget how much of a force Ewing was. I was a season ticket holder at the time and maybe I’d forgotten or just became jaded but if you go back and watch some of those classic games from the Ewing era it is astounding what he was doing. It is hard to remember how we lost any games at all… he was just so far above everyone else and so capable of dominating any game. It was easy to hate him because at the time a lot of people considered him a freak of nature and felt it was almost unfair that they had to play against him (although they would never admit that). It follows that a large part of the reason people hated us because Ewing was so huge, so overpowering and played as aggressively as the rest of the team.
I think I remember one opposing coach saying they were going to prepare for us by practicing with 6 guys on full court press defense and the one under that basket would be holding a broom above his head. ;D
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Locker
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Post by Locker on Jul 29, 2010 17:20:22 GMT -5
I'm more upset that somebody still credits Larry Brown's diagnosis of the 2004 Olympic team's troubles. That's right, Larry Brown, the guy who started Marbury and Marion and Jefferson over Wade, Lebron, and Carmelo. I still love Adrian Wojnarowski for his post-Games article on the difference between Brown and Iverson: sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer04/basketball/columns/story?id=1870490 |
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jul 30, 2010 17:45:39 GMT -5
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Ultimately Davidson won because Curry shot the lights out and we couldn't stop him.[/quote]
NOT true. While the Hoyas played poorly and gave Davidson the chance to steal the game, the officials were unacceptably biased and awful.
Not that I am still angry or anything...
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 31, 2010 9:42:03 GMT -5
For some of the youngins who might not understand how hated that georgetown team was and in fact still is. Here's an excerpt from a nova message board discussing the hoyas place on the list:
"The 83-84 Georgetown team with Ewing & Michael Graham was the most hated team of all time. If you watch the old videos, you'll hear it in the announcers' voices (Dave Gavitt & Bill Raftery in particular), you'll hear it in the crowd reaction to every foul, see the benches clear every game (yep, every game). When they lost on the road, the place would go bonkers like it was New Year's Eve. It takes a truly great team to be hated that much, and they were. The racial overtones were, unfortunately for our society at that time and place, all too pronounced."
"Agree on the racial overtones. John Thompson and his players made it clear they hated white people."
"You guys remember Tom Lang?
White player at Georgetown, 1987-88. Played in 14 games, 2-11 career FGs, 1-3 FTs, 5 total points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds."
"That guy was brought in because Thompsom got so much flak...he needed to stop the media blitz. it was planned."
The hate is still alive and well
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 31, 2010 19:00:24 GMT -5
For some of the youngins who might not understand how hated that georgetown team was and in fact still is. Here's an excerpt from a nova message board discussing the hoyas place on the list: "The 83-84 Georgetown team with Ewing & Michael Graham was the most hated team of all time. If you watch the old videos, you'll hear it in the announcers' voices (Dave Gavitt & Bill Raftery in particular), you'll hear it in the crowd reaction to every foul, see the benches clear every game (yep, every game). When they lost on the road, the place would go bonkers like it was New Year's Eve. It takes a truly great team to be hated that much, and they were. The racial overtones were, unfortunately for our society at that time and place, all too pronounced." "Agree on the racial overtones. John Thompson and his players made it clear they hated white people." "You guys remember Tom Lang? White player at Georgetown, 1987-88. Played in 14 games, 2-11 career FGs, 1-3 FTs, 5 total points, 3 assists, 2 rebounds." "That guy was brought in because Thompsom got so much flak...he needed to stop the media blitz. it was planned." The hate is still alive and well Clean, wholesome sports hate is one thing. Obscene, unhinged, and irrational race-baiting is something else. If anyone should take being hated as a badge of honor, it's Big John and those teams. |
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