Message Boards & potential effect on recruits

[professorhoya]

The Syracuse Trolls and Escherick Agenda Trolls who run amok on this board (with multiple screenames) may really hurt our recruiting efforts and cause high school recruits to consider other schools or decomit (Deshonte Riley) after reading all the negative threads towards JT3, the players and Hoyas fans.

For alot of Hoyas fans and high school recruits this board is really the only way to follow the team as Hoyas games are not broadcast in all regions of the country. And reading all the negative comments may give geographically remote fans and high school recruit a false impression about what Georgetown and Hoyas fans are all about.

If you are a high school kid, and considering a couple colleges, then really this board or a board similar to this would be your only access to the program and what the general atmosphere of the school, fans and alumni are like. If this is even a possibility that the board effect recruiting why would we let these Trolls run amok.

A similar thing happened at Iowa where the fans complained and ran Steve Alford out of Iowa City because getting to the NCAA's and having a top 25 ranking was not enough. Little did the fans realize that Alford was doing a great job considering the circumstances that Iowa City is a hard place to attract top recruits to come to. Not to mention that the better instate Iowa recruits like Colison and Heinrich end up going to Kansas and Iowa is left fighting Iowa State for what's left.

Alford left for New Mexico and the Hawkeyes signed Todd Lickletter (from Butler). Lickletter went on to have 3 seasons that were much worse than Alford and ended up getting fired this week. Meanwhile Alford's New Mexico Lobos are top 15 and just won their first round game on Thursday in the NCAA tournament. Now no great coach or recruit is going to want to come to Iowa City after the way they treated Steve Alford.

Now this is a scenario that the Syracuse Trolls and Eschrick Agenda Trolls may actually want but this is not representative of Hoyas fans and alumni.

This is an "Opinion and Discussion" on influence that this board can have on recruiting.

[afalcon10]

By this logic, fans should never express discontent....since it might hurt recruiting.

[Boz]

Actually, I'm pretty sure this was just a polite way of saying go the &%$# away.

Clearly, I am not polite.

[Z]

If a recruit is afraid of armchair message boards heros being critical, he ain't gonna survive in the Big East and should head elsewhere anyway. And the "vitriol" on this board looks like Aristotle compared to 95% of the D-1 message boards out there.

[StPetersburgHoya (Inactive)]

I'm sick of these people too. If they've got a problem with the board - pull a Casual Hoya and carve out your own slice of the internet where you can complain. I don't post here that much anymore because I get sick of reading about the problems with "the system," how "he's not as good as his dad," his "demeanor," and "our inability to get recruits like Biggie McClain."

You all have nothing to say when we win.

I hope you broke your legs jumping off the bandwagon.

[757hoyafan]

I doubt Riley changed his mind due to this site or any other Hoyas site.

[lichoya68]

i think we ALL should have postive karma on here but there is free speech and having looked at these facebook and twitter thingys there is MUCH more out there with stuff AND I KNOW DASONTE REILY DIDNOT NOT COME HERE CAUSE OF THIS BOARD FOR SURE and from what i heard we kinda ended up not wanting him with how he acted on his visit.and look how freaking much hes helped cuse..we want good smart kids who love georgetown to come and if they see some people like me who make a ridiculous comment occascionaly and THATS why they decide where to go.. then maybe they werent the kinda kid we want ITS ABOUT MORE THAN BBALL for sure.. great school great coach great bunch of kids.. almost all of whom i love to call fellow alums. sooooo go hoyas IS IT KENNER YET lets move move move and move on.. hope ALL THE GUYS HIT THE WEIGHTS HARD THIS SUMMER YUP and if a recruit reads that and decides to come,, do we want em here ?? just wondering.. if all come back THE BEST IS YET TO COME YUP go hoyas WE ARE GEORGETOWN and if i EVER say anything which i have in the past which aint good tell me go hoyas

[bronxhoya87]

Does JTIII and Gtown bball have a mandate from heaven that Bronxie does not know about?

[RDF]

That bull**** about Steve Alford proves that Professor needs to reassess what he knows.

Alford was fired for:

1. Being a deleted who brought in horrific people--as in guys who were arrested for rape, domestic violence, fighting, DUI's, etc.....

2. Alford was so unliked attendance started to decline at Iowa-which routinely sold out under Dr. Tom Davis.

3. Alford was horrific with community/boosters--and thought they should do everything for him due to being "Steve Alford".

4. You couldn't get any of his recruits into Iowa that he has currently at New Mexico. As Fran Fraschilla said--"Each job is different and has different expectations, at New Mexico, I was told to win--by any means, and that's all that mattered". So Alford has been able to bring in a Darrington Hobson--who Georgetown recruited but couldn't get into school in a million years--hell UConn and Cuse couldn't get that kid into school--but it's a problem.

Agree completely that Lickliter is a moron--who had no business running a D1 program at Major Conference level, but Iowa's problems STARTED under Alford--and when he gets "another shot"--he'll fail again at the big time level--unless he gets Calipari-like treatment where ethics, and type of people you bring in don't matter.

[guru]

The trolls have really taken this place over since the loss and turned it into their own echo chamber. Pretty disgusting.

[afalcon10]

You guys need to relax. We just lost to a 14 seed by a ton. Criticism of our coaching staff is not only acceptable but necessary.

[krukster201]

BROKEN RECORD ..... OMG PLEASE GO AWAY ..we already know you hate JT3 - YOU WIN ..now go away FAKE FAN...go pick a new coach and a new team. How about the TERPS or join Bronx and be a CUSE FAN..smh

[FLHoya]

Mar 20, 2010 13:24:46 GMT -5 afalcon10 said:

You guys need to relax. We just lost to a 14 seed by a ton. Criticism of our coaching staff is not only acceptable but necessary.

I mean...go for it if it'll make you personally feel better. Just don't be upset if you follow up with a phone call and the secretary at McD doesn't recognize you by your Hoyatalk handle.

How great would it be to have a sub-board called something like "Hoyatalk Train Wrecks" where we re-hash the great runaway threads (Latavious Williams, CD/BD, Superman), re-live prediction FAILs, and get to laugh at statements like this from a safe distance?

[afalcon10]

I dont think its going to result in any change- I just think its important for fans to express their opinions.

[krukster201]

over and over again until your blue in the face ...geeez let it go already! It's beautiful outside , go play in traffic.

[RockawayHoya]

Mar 20, 2010 14:44:08 GMT -5 afalcon10 said:

Relax Kruk, see the Mods message about chilling out.

I realize their job is tough, but it's about time the mods stopped using words and started using some action.

[bronxhoya87]

Rock who do you want banned and why?

[jerseyhoya34]

Falcon should not be banned. He's a parody poster.

[afalcon10]

Stop, lets just talk basketball, please.

[bronxhoya87]

Aflac....what has Bronxie said that was not true? I love my Hoyas but the flaws are evident. They need to be pointed out. You can be Mr. sunshine while it is raining....I will simply state that it is raining.