quickplay
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Post by quickplay on Feb 25, 2010 11:15:57 GMT -5
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Feb 25, 2010 12:01:01 GMT -5
I kinda wonder how scholarship track and field survives in the NCAA. The teams are huge, they need several coaches, they travel extensively, state of the art facilities are expensive, and they bring in no revenue. Georgetown is somehow able to recruit and train a few Olympic-caliber athletes, but they don't compete on campus and thus no one watches their events (whether you would get real attendance for a niche sport on campus is a different question). Only Nevada and reformation seem to pay any attention to their exploits here. Yet people want to cut football.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Feb 25, 2010 13:43:33 GMT -5
But have you seen the girls track team?
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 25, 2010 20:09:09 GMT -5
I kinda wonder how scholarship track and field survives in the NCAA. The teams are huge, they need several coaches, they travel extensively, state of the art facilities are expensive, and they bring in no revenue. Georgetown is somehow able to recruit and train a few Olympic-caliber athletes, but they don't compete on campus and thus no one watches their events (whether you would get real attendance for a niche sport on campus is a different question). Only Nevada and reformation seem to pay any attention to their exploits here. Yet people want to cut football. Jack, one word: TRADITION!
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Feb 25, 2010 20:42:07 GMT -5
Jack, one word: TRADITION! Look how far that got the Hall.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 26, 2010 19:09:57 GMT -5
Seton Hall had some good runners over the years, but not the depth and quality of Georgetown. Seton Hall was mainly remembered (i.e., by me) as a women's 4x400m relay school. They have had some male 400m runners. I never think of SH, when I think of XC. The Hoyas are always in the hunt for the XC, and until they lost the track, they were contenders for indoor and outdoor BE champs. They also have always had runners of national quality. I could point out all the quality runners that we have had over the years, but it will take too long. Even this year, the men won the Big East track meet; unfortunately, it is called track and field, so Notre Dame, strong in field events won the combined T&F meet.
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Post by reformation on Feb 27, 2010 10:27:59 GMT -5
I kinda wonder how scholarship track and field survives in the NCAA. The teams are huge, they need several coaches, they travel extensively, state of the art facilities are expensive, and they bring in no revenue. Georgetown is somehow able to recruit and train a few Olympic-caliber athletes, but they don't compete on campus and thus no one watches their events (whether you would get real attendance for a niche sport on campus is a different question). Only Nevada and reformation seem to pay any attention to their exploits here. Yet people want to cut football.
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Post by reformation on Feb 27, 2010 10:39:30 GMT -5
Track by and large is committed to a focus on excellence,i.e., competing at the highest level of its sport--including having some kids compete for olympic spots. Its academic cost is low to moderate. Great universities define themselves by a focus on excellence in their chosen endeavors(teaching,athletics,research, service). I see track fitting in that role of a signature program for Gtwn--just like the SFS is a signature academic program. Gtwn should be focused on ehancing and expanding its signature programs both academically and athletically and should allocate resources accordingly.
Football on the other hand is not focused on competing at the highest level and has a very high academic and financial cost. Its easy to see given a simple cost benefit why one might advocate cutting the program(I'm not advocating that, but absent a substantial upgrade its hard to see how continuing the program makes any sense). Supporting a bunch of also ran activities athletically and academically is what needs to be examined.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 27, 2010 14:17:28 GMT -5
Well said, reformation! In the last 20 years half of the Robert Duffey Scholar-Athlete awards were to track team members. This award is the school's highest award for honoring excellence in academics for the athletes.
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