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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 28, 2010 10:19:23 GMT -5
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Feb 28, 2010 10:35:51 GMT -5
jtiii is not getting it done Bronx, its sad that we have to keep losing like this for some to see and understand that. Like I said before, its clear that Vee Sanford is our best on ball defender... He put him in the game with 4 mins left. What a joke. I used to have faith in JTIII. Thanks to you both -- and hoyaheaven -- for sharing these important and valuable insights. Wondering where your thoughts on coaching were after the win mid-week against Louisville? I really cannot understand what motivates you to come here and post these types of arrogant, mean-spirited, and cynical posts after losses. Either you are wolfs in sheep's clothing, self-hating fans, or just trolls that get some sick pleasure after goading the rest of us, particularly after losses. It's just sad, really.
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Post by guru on Feb 28, 2010 11:16:40 GMT -5
Haven't read this thread so sorry if this point has been made:
Yesterday looked exactly like the end of last season to me. No urgency, very little effort - just a complete mess. I don't *think* we could completely blow it like last season with all the quality wins we racked up early, but unless something huge changes this team is a one and done in the BET and the NCAAs.
I think yesterday was an utter coaching failure, and I really love JT3. But that team was not ready to play - actually it looked like they had no interest in playing right from the opening tip. Freeman's illness was tough - but ND was probably missing more in Gody, and the contrast in the way the rest of the players on each team responded was telling.
Honestly, as disappointed as I was yesterday, it's hard to be all that mad - if only because the players seemed to care so little. If those guys don't give a crap, why should I? Just sad - a team that looked very dangerous a month ago now looks like it can't wait for the season to end.
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Post by bmartin on Feb 28, 2010 12:00:55 GMT -5
That was the worse defensive game of the season by far. Just an unbelievable combination of giving up 57% field goal shooting and then 50% offensive rebounding percentage on ND's misses.
12 defensive rebounds total: Monroe 4, Clark 3, Benimon 1, Sims 1, Sanford 1, and 2 team rebounds. 0 defensive rebounds from Vaughn, Freeman, Thompson, and Wright in a total of 110 minutes.
Team rebounds, i.e. the ball going out of bounds off Notre Dame, tied with Clark for our best rebounder with 5 (3 OR, 2 DR).
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Post by hoyaheaven on Feb 28, 2010 12:33:02 GMT -5
For the record: HoyaHeaven is 100% in support of III...best thing to happen to Hoya Sports in a long, long time. But who--including the entire coaching staff--would disagree that some sober tactical thought is not merited in the off season .
THIS IS NEXT YEAR!
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 28, 2010 12:38:13 GMT -5
For the record: HoyaHeaven is 100% in support of III...best thing to happen to Hoya Sports in a long, long time. But who--including the entire coaching staff--would disagree that some sober tactical thought is not merited in the off season . THIS IS NEXT YEAR! is it just a coincidence that BronxHoya and HoyaHeaven talk about themselves in the third-person? I think we are dealing with a seriously demented troll along the lines of foeva and eighties. I will try my best to elicit some threatening PMs that will result in banning.
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Post by chep3 on Feb 28, 2010 12:49:15 GMT -5
Agree with everyone on the BronxHoya train. What I don't understand Bronx, is why you come here an post after every loss. You don't really seem to enjoy discussion of what actually happened in the game, as much as drawing generalizations about our recruiting, our coaching, and our effort. You never say, hey we lost today because we couldn't matchup with X, it's "we lost because our recruiting is terrible." So there doesn't seem to be any discussion aspect to your posts, with the exception of the inevitable angry posts in response. So why do you do it? It's certainly not to talk basketball with your fellow fans.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 28, 2010 13:02:11 GMT -5
jtiii is not getting it done Bronx, its sad that we have to keep losing like this for some to see and understand that. Like I said before, its clear that Vee Sanford is our best on ball defender... He put him in the game with 4 mins left. What a joke. I used to have faith in JTIII. Hey, the trolls are all here!
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Post by happyhoya1979 on Feb 28, 2010 13:27:05 GMT -5
Our vulnerability was exposed today. With our depth situation, we are one turned ankle, one scratched eyelid, indeed, one bad case of diarrhea away from oblivion.
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Post by HoyaSouth on Feb 28, 2010 13:55:42 GMT -5
Bronx, its sad that we have to keep losing like this for some to see and understand that. Like I said before, its clear that Vee Sanford is our best on ball defender... He put him in the game with 4 mins left. What a joke. I used to have faith in JTIII. Thanks to you both -- and hoyaheaven -- for sharing these important and valuable insights. Wondering where your thoughts on coaching were after the win mid-week against Louisville? I really cannot understand what motivates you to come here and post these types of arrogant, mean-spirited, and cynical posts after losses. Either you are wolfs in sheep's clothing, self-hating fans, or just trolls that get some sick pleasure after goading the rest of us, particularly after losses. It's just sad, really. I'll tell you what motivates me. It's people who make excuses and give JTIII a pass. He's been here 6 season's and I see the same problems. He was supposed to build on Green and Hibberts success. He makes boneheaded coaching decisions just like Craig Esherick made. Some of you pooh pooh that, I can't. If it wasn't for me and a few others Craig Esherick would still be here thinking, "I'm not going anywhere". And if you watched the Louisville game, Freeman had to score 20+ in the second half and Samuels had to miss 7 layups for GU to win that game. The ups and downs of this season are rooted in JTIII's poor decision making and stubbornness not wanting to play Vee Sanford to take some pressure off of Wright and the rest of the guards. Then he seemed to have an epiphany and plays him with 4 mins in the game. And that doesn't seem odd to you?
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Post by guru on Feb 28, 2010 13:57:44 GMT -5
Thanks to you both -- and hoyaheaven -- for sharing these important and valuable insights. Wondering where your thoughts on coaching were after the win mid-week against Louisville? I really cannot understand what motivates you to come here and post these types of arrogant, mean-spirited, and cynical posts after losses. Either you are wolfs in sheep's clothing, self-hating fans, or just trolls that get some sick pleasure after goading the rest of us, particularly after losses. It's just sad, really. I'll tell you what motivates me. It's people who make excuses and give JTIII a pass. He's been here 6 season's and I see the same problems. He was supposed to build on Green and Hibberts success. He makes boneheaded coaching decisions just like Craig Esherick made. Some of you pooh pooh that, I can't. If it wasn't for me and a few others Craig Esherick would still be here thinking, "I'm not going anywhere". And if you watched the Louisville game, Freeman had to score 20+ in the second half and Samuels had to miss 7 layups for GU to win that game. The ups and downs of this season are rooted in JTIII's poor decision making and stubbornness not wanting to play Vee Sanford to take some pressure off of Wright and the rest of the guards. Then he seemed to have an epiphany and plays him with 4 mins in the game. And that doesn't seem odd to you? Takes a bonehead to know a bonehead, huh? Thanks for personally getting Esherick fired. This board owes you a huge debt. Would it kill you to post after a win once in a while. I feel like we're all missing out on your incredible basketball insight.
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Post by HoyaSouth on Feb 28, 2010 14:34:42 GMT -5
I'll tell you what motivates me. It's people who make excuses and give JTIII a pass. He's been here 6 season's and I see the same problems. He was supposed to build on Green and Hibberts success. He makes boneheaded coaching decisions just like Craig Esherick made. Some of you pooh pooh that, I can't. If it wasn't for me and a few others Craig Esherick would still be here thinking, "I'm not going anywhere". And if you watched the Louisville game, Freeman had to score 20+ in the second half and Samuels had to miss 7 layups for GU to win that game. The ups and downs of this season are rooted in JTIII's poor decision making and stubbornness not wanting to play Vee Sanford to take some pressure off of Wright and the rest of the guards. Then he seemed to have an epiphany and plays him with 4 mins in the game. And that doesn't seem odd to you? Takes a bonehead to know a bonehead, huh? Thanks for personally getting Esherick fired. This board owes you a huge debt. Would it kill you to post after a win once in a while. I feel like we're all missing out on your incredible basketball insight. I'm done posting until the offseason. My job is done. It's called bringing awareness. This team could have been in line for a #1 seed. I blame the coach, and its becoming more and more evident that my hypothesis is right. Let's keep in mind this is his 6th season here. Yesterday was example 1 and 1a. I like him as a person, but he's banging his head on the ceiling. And I'm afraid he can't break through.
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 28, 2010 14:51:45 GMT -5
"I'm done posting until the offseason. My job is done."
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 28, 2010 15:40:31 GMT -5
Gee, how much is HoyaSouth getting paid to post anonymously on this board? Now that his "job" is done, can others apply for his "job?" I guess he's advocating that JTIII be fired since he obviously has hit the ceiling and has shown no evidence that he can break through in HoyaSouth's arrogant opinion.
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 28, 2010 17:35:17 GMT -5
I'll tell you what motivates me. It's people who make excuses and give JTIII a pass. He's been here 6 season's and I see the same problems. He was supposed to build on Green and Hibberts success. He makes boneheaded coaching decisions just like Craig Esherick made. Some of you pooh pooh that, I can't. If it wasn't for me and a few others Craig Esherick would still be here thinking, "I'm not going anywhere". And if you watched the Louisville game, Freeman had to score 20+ in the second half and Samuels had to miss 7 layups for GU to win that game. The ups and downs of this season are rooted in JTIII's poor decision making and stubbornness not wanting to play Vee Sanford to take some pressure off of Wright and the rest of the guards. Then he seemed to have an epiphany and plays him with 4 mins in the game. And that doesn't seem odd to you? I guess signing the #1 recruit in the nation to follow up Jeff and Roy isn't building upon their success. I guess since we made the Final Four, JTIII is a failure until he builds upon that and makes the championship game . Yes JTIII has made some mistakes but none like Esherick ever did. I'm glad that you fired Craig Esherick, you must have worked real hard all by yourself to get him fired . Good thing you can tell the future too and know that Esherick would still have been around here after 6 season. I'm not sure you watched the Louisville game because I would consider that our best guard actually taking shots and our best bigman playing lock down defense. We are a second half team, there is no denying that, maybe that is our "horrible" coach making awful halftime adjustments We have 4 guards right now, that is not where the most depth is needed. Vee tends to take shots/use the possession for a good amount of the time he is in the game, maybe thats why he doesn't play as much, he hasn't learned the passing part of the offense? Because he is always trying to prove that he should have more minutes (esp when he does get PT instead of just playing his game? Maybe Coach put Vee in the final 4 minutes because our best guard SCORING guard was sick and our only real chance was to create turnovers, ONE OF VEE's BEST SKILLS. PS For all you sane people out there, I love Vee and I think he should be playing more, even if his offensive decision making is not fully there yet.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 28, 2010 17:36:21 GMT -5
HoyaSouth's lack of basketball knowledge is only exceeded by his arrogance.
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Post by richfame on Feb 28, 2010 17:58:32 GMT -5
what happened to hoya eighties?
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 28, 2010 18:45:05 GMT -5
I thought HoyaSouth only posted after losses. Does that mean that we win the rest of the games, since he is done posting for the season. If that is so, hurrah!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 28, 2010 18:45:54 GMT -5
Was Austin the only one sick yesterday? Maybe some of the others caught what he had, but not as bad.
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Post by skyhoya on Feb 28, 2010 20:51:36 GMT -5
There was a large Irish population at the game. Their pressence was felt, but they were more acceptable that that trash from CUSE. They got crappy outside in victory, but not trash talking like those pukes from CUSE.
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