TC
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Post by TC on Feb 10, 2010 11:55:21 GMT -5
Well, not exactly true. There were many students who cared to make funny faces when the cameras approached them. I kinda don't get this criticism. Seemed like a decent turnout given that : - middle of the week - PC classes were already cancelled for Wednesday (read: get drunk time) - competing with Lost - threat of snowstorm looming The student section was definitely into it - they had people dressed like teletubbies, hot dogs, bananas, green man (but white for Friar colors), all the crazy big head posters. You can't cheer a team into hitting their free throws though, and that's what this pretty much came down to.
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 10, 2010 11:56:59 GMT -5
In any case, I definitely would not mind returning there in March, though tickets may be scarce - it is a very nice size gym for the PC Friars, but it could use another 6,000 seats for the NCAA's. It seems to be a near lock that if the Hoyas hang on to a Top 4 NCAA seed, we're headed back to Rhode Island for the 1st/2nd rounds. This is rare year for the NCAA Tournament in having two 1st/2nd round sites in the northeast. In 2002 there were sites in DC and Pittsburgh, which is at least a Big East city, but for two true mid-Atlantic/Northeast cities in one year you have to go back to 1998 (DC and Hartford). Couple that with there not being many eastern schools to challenge the Big East teams for being the top seed in those pods--the ACC is down with only Duke and (less likely) Georgia Tech challenging for Top 4 seeds, and both much more likely to be slotted for Jacksonville. Don't think Temple has the juice to get to a Top 4 seed since there are enough good A-10 teams to beat them up a few times. What you're really looking at IMO are Cuse being a lock for Buffalo, Nova being a lock for Providence, and 2 of the 3 out of WVU, GU, and Pitt if they get in Top 4 seed range taking the last two spots. The latest Bracketology has WVU and GU at 2 seeds (Buff and Prov) and Pitt as a 5 seed. So potentially good news for our strong Hoya contingent in the MA/RI/CT corridor, but not as much for the Stubhubber looking for tickets in a 13,000 seat venue (roughly 1500 less than Winston Salem for those who attended in 2007).
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 10, 2010 11:58:06 GMT -5
2 fouls in 5 minutes, a missed shot and no boards does not give us much. See -- this is what I'm talking about. Henry had 1 rebound. Not great, but not "no boards." Furthermore, he was fouled twice grabbing boards. Not as good as getting the boards for future prediction probably, but basically the dude was responsible for three D rebounds in five minutes, even if it wasn't pretty. He was also fouled once on offense. So yeah, he wasn't good -- but really, you can at least give him credit for what he did. He's still too quick to jump on D, but he didn't throw the ball away, either.
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Post by McBricks on Feb 10, 2010 12:05:23 GMT -5
Does anyone know how many players, point guards or otherwise, have had 12 assists this season? I know an earlier poster said that Greg's performance was in the elite category, so I'd be curious to know what we're talking about here. I would have to assume that his 12 dimes have to be near the top for any player this season. Any thoughts?
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 10, 2010 12:15:06 GMT -5
After reading all 11 pages, not much more to add from me other than to say (1) nice job Hoyas!!! a comeback road win is ALWAYS good in the BE; (2) great game, Greg! Passing game was a thing of beauty; (3) great game, Julian! 19 pts, including some awesome fast break work and dunks that clearly broke PC's spirit; (4) that's the kind of game that gets us ready for March (for all the reasons already stated).
GO HOYAS!!!!!
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 10, 2010 12:20:53 GMT -5
It would be really nice if Providence could somehow get hot and take out at least one of their next three opponents -- I suppose West Va if I had to choose one.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 10, 2010 12:31:39 GMT -5
Agree with richfame's fiancee that the cheerleaders and dance team were nothing to write home about, but the PC Irish step team was actually quite good.
One of the constants in the past has been that the student sections at the Dunk are usually full - last night that was far from the case. The rest of the crowd sat on their hands for the most part. As Jack mentioned, not even very much inventive or obscene Hoya hating. Almost docile. Disappointing.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 10, 2010 12:48:36 GMT -5
In any case, I definitely would not mind returning there in March, though tickets may be scarce - it is a very nice size gym for the PC Friars, but it could use another 6,000 seats for the NCAA's. It seems to be a near lock that if the Hoyas hang on to a Top 4 NCAA seed, we're headed back to Rhode Island for the 1st/2nd rounds. This is rare year for the NCAA Tournament in having two 1st/2nd round sites in the northeast. In 2002 there were sites in DC and Pittsburgh, which is at least a Big East city, but for two true mid-Atlantic/Northeast cities in one year you have to go back to 1998 (DC and Hartford). Couple that with there not being many eastern schools to challenge the Big East teams for being the top seed in those pods--the ACC is down with only Duke and (less likely) Georgia Tech challenging for Top 4 seeds, and both much more likely to be slotted for Jacksonville. Don't think Temple has the juice to get to a Top 4 seed since there are enough good A-10 teams to beat them up a few times. What you're really looking at IMO are Cuse being a lock for Buffalo, Nova being a lock for Providence, and 2 of the 3 out of WVU, GU, and Pitt if they get in Top 4 seed range taking the last two spots. The latest Bracketology has WVU and GU at 2 seeds (Buff and Prov) and Pitt as a 5 seed. So potentially good news for our strong Hoya contingent in the MA/RI/CT corridor, but not as much for the Stubhubber looking for tickets in a 13,000 seat venue (roughly 1500 less than Winston Salem for those who attended in 2007). The Dunk NCAA games are already sold out, but if anybody wants to speculate/put themselves in position to take money out of a SUcks fan's pocket, you can buy tickets for the entire Buffalo slate right now for face value: purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?organ_val=HSBC&pid=6451970
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Post by mapei on Feb 10, 2010 13:07:48 GMT -5
I think the crowd was quiet because they were embarrassed to be in a sports arena called the Dunkin' Donuts Center.
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Post by Buckets on Feb 10, 2010 13:35:01 GMT -5
A few thoughts since I didn't bother to post last night since I didn't think the game was that special.
I wouldn't exactly call this a "grind-it-out" or "gutsy" win or whatever some were calling it. Sure, shots weren't dropping for us, but I would reserve those types of adjectives for wins against teams that actually play defense.
Maybe Providence should consider a new defensive gameplan for Monroe. His season high in assists last season was also against the Friars. He seems pretty content to be a distributor against whatever they've tried doing.
On Sims and Benimon, I don't think anyone is saying that Sims is doing anything special out there. But I think that Benimon's supposed understanding of the offense and directing Hollis is vastly overstated. Most of the time on offense it seems like he takes one or two lateral dribbles and then looks for Wright or Freeman to come around behind him so he can shovel it back. If Sims had a stretch of five games where he went 0/5 FG, 7/8 FT, 7 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 11 turnovers in 79 minutes of play, richfame's head might have exploded.
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 10, 2010 13:50:17 GMT -5
Maybe you are right, but why does it matter either way? The point is that we won a game when shots werent dropping. Austin isnt going to shoot 90% from the field and Clark isnt going to make 7 three-pointers every night. When that happens, we need to adjust and grind through it. To me, that is what grinding means. And, that is what brasky's post meant, too. We pound it down low and let Julian go to work, which is exactly what happened. We take the ball hard to the hoop which Chris did. The concern for this team is playing well and winning games when we dont shoot 50% from the field and 40% from 3.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 10, 2010 14:06:07 GMT -5
It would be really nice if Providence could somehow get hot and take out at least one of their next three opponents -- I suppose West Va if I had to choose one. +1, especially if it's WVU.
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Post by richfame on Feb 10, 2010 14:36:18 GMT -5
Freemoney.. Thats pretty funny!
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Post by tashoya on Feb 10, 2010 15:37:16 GMT -5
I think you guys covered it all. My only thoughts are that when I read a Georgetown board talking about chunky/not so aesthetically pleasing cheerleaders, to borrow from Austin's Tweets, smh.
Second, what's our biggest problem moving forward? Our depth that everyone loves to harp on or our inability to actually get a time-out before a tie-up?
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Post by swhoya on Feb 10, 2010 15:46:25 GMT -5
Definitely our inability to get the time out. I mean really, that's the only thing that's standing between us and our 2nd 'chip.
Seriously, the stuff people choose to criticize...
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 10, 2010 16:39:50 GMT -5
We have the 20th ranked offense and 31st ranked defense. To really make a Final Four run, both of those have to improve. But while I feel like the offense is improving, the defense seems to be the crux here to me.
We've had periods of rapid improvement before (05-06 saw our defense go through the roof), but I'm not sure its in the cards, unless the backups improve.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 10, 2010 16:58:48 GMT -5
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 11, 2010 1:10:28 GMT -5
We have the 20th ranked offense and 31st ranked defense. To really make a Final Four run, both of those have to improve. But while I feel like the offense is improving, the defense seems to be the crux here to me. We've had periods of rapid improvement before (05-06 saw our defense go through the roof), but I'm not sure its in the cards, unless the backups improve. For comparison purposes, when we made the Final Four in 2007 we had the 2nd rated offense and 20th rated defense: kenpom.com/team.php?y=2007&team=Georgetown
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 11, 2010 11:34:34 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that link. Truly an incredible sequence! Do these guys understand team play? That was a clinic!
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 11, 2010 20:15:29 GMT -5
Maybe you are right, but why does it matter either way? The point is that we won a game when shots werent dropping. The team shot 51% from the floor. That falls under the category of Shots Dropping.
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