Buffalo Bills name Edwards as DC

[RDF]

Hifi--if you think III would pull the same stunts as Meyer and I'd support it--you obviously know nothing about me. Numerous posters who are here would support this--whether they find me abrasive or enjoy the things I say--they know I jump all over people for being liars, hypocrites, and most of all primadonna sacks of excrement who use kids to their advantage and hide behind things. Meyer is everywhere after his "illness" that was going to put him out of coaching--and tells recruits he's "fine--but will take a little time off" and you talk of him as if he was on a death bed.

I've gone after Jim Calhoun, Jim Valvano, Satan--only a TRUE Hoya fan knows who that is, Calipari, Josh "Boy Blunder" Pastner, etc.......and will always do so. Hypocrites and people who use other people disgust me. Lying disgusts me. Thing is--I NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT JT III doing what Meyer did--because he wouldn't do so. Georgetown doesn't operate like that and doesn't tolerate people who get arrested and act like idiots off the court--and it's not talked about to be a "good person"--that is EXPECTED. Coach had his wife suffering through a battle with CANCER--you know a real disease and nobody knew about it for the longest time--why is that? Meyer CREATED all of the attention based on.......nobody knows. Could be chest pains from stress--could be gas from inhaling some of the Tebow flatulents and combining it with some of your local stash, I really don't give a CRAP because it was MADE UP GARBAGE that has no substantial proof--other then numerous things that I've posted--again for those who don't deem this to be factual support:

1. Said he was leaving/resigning
2. Scheduled a PC--and it was a Florida love in filled with nothing about Meyer at all being sick
3. Then changed to leave of absence
4. Meyer coaches Bowl Game-
5. Meyer Recruits
6. Meyer tells recruits he's fine--and needs a little time off but will be there to coach them
7. Meyer tells Shariff Floyd "I had a dream you were a Gator and you are someone I'd risk my health to coach".
8. Meyer doesn't tell any recruits George Edwards--who was a LB Coach for Chan Gailey in NFL with Dallas is going to be his DC--even though it had be known for week/half prior to Signing Day.

That all happened. Did it not? Are you getting some bad stuff Cheech? Did you not bring up the fact I'm a Miami fan? Did you not bring up Meyer's "good buddy" Skip Prosser?--I never mentioned it--and didn't see how it mattered--but you did to divert from topic. Meyer has lied and I don't like liars/wafflers. Should know that since you spend so much time here and waste so much time of people here, but then again it takes a comprehension beyond someone of your stature and the ability to understand that despite your allegiance--sometimes good coaches--even great coaches are scumball people who like their ego stroked--especially after they are depressed. The precedent for "waffling" has been set at Florida too--Billy Donovan--who I didn't criticize at all--as he never claimed to be "too stressed or too ill"--he just couldn't make up his mind about a job. I hate Florida Basketball and Eddie Munster--but at least he didn't make up some crap, lie to kids, and then expect everyone to just ignore it as if it never happened.

So go back to the Swamp, "handle business" to Tebow years while you smoke a fatty, and volunteer to lance the boil on Meyer's ass--because the amount of time I have for this FABLE is over with. The man is truly ill--if he's faking an illness or as you and his cult feel "is sick" and putting his career and football ahead of his family-either way-he's a symbol for being a RICHARD-head and the type of leader that people like you deserve.

[hifigator]

Hifi--if you think III would pull the same stunts as Meyer and I'd support it--you obviously know nothing about me. Numerous posters who are here would support this--whether they find me abrasive or enjoy the things I say--they know I jump all over people for being liars, hypocrites, and most of all primadonna sacks of excrement who use kids to their advantage and hide behind things. Meyer is everywhere after his "illness" that was going to put him out of coaching--and tells recruits he's "fine--but will take a little time off" and you talk of him as if he was on a death bed.

If you're saying that you wouldn't allow JTIII the latitude on the hypothetical that I gave, then fair enough. I would. Until it happens, we can both stand on our own word. Meyer is "everywhere" after his illness. Well, I won't deny that, but that is the exact same thing we would say about Favre, Katrina, Ben Roethlisberger's motorcycle accident a couple of years back or T.O.'s added attention from the off-season several years back. The point is that the media will talk about what it wants to do. Personally, I thought the Roethlisberger story was the biggest "non-news" of the bunch. OK, I get it. He wrecked his bike, and had serious but not life-threatening injuries to rehab from. Move on. Lastly, yes he did tell recruits AND EVERYONE ELSE that he expected to be coaching next year, but that he needed some time off to take care of health issues. SO WHAT? Now if you want to call him out for being "soft," then that's one thing. And like I said before, I can understand people haveing a negative view toward someone who needs a break because of the stress of his job, when he's making 4 million to "just" coach football. I get that. But again, there's no hint of lying. Lastly, I have no idea why you think I said anything like him being on his "death bed."

I've gone after Jim Calhoun, Jim Valvano, Satan--only a TRUE Hoya fan knows who that is, Calipari, Josh "Boy Blunder" Pastner, etc.......and will always do so. Hypocrites and people who use other people disgust me. Lying disgusts me. Thing is--I NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT JT III doing what Meyer did--because he wouldn't do so. Georgetown doesn't operate like that and doesn't tolerate people who get arrested and act like idiots off the court--and it's not talked about to be a "good person"--that is EXPECTED. Coach had his wife suffering through a battle with CANCER--you know a real disease and nobody knew about it for the longest time--why is that? Meyer CREATED all of the attention based on.......nobody knows. Could be chest pains from stress--could be gas from inhaling some of the Tebow flatulents and combining it with some of your local stash, I really don't give a CRAP because it was MADE UP GARBAGE that has no substantial proof--other then numerous things that I've posted--again for those who don't deem this to be factual support:

I will ignore the obvious rubbish. As for JTIII, it is totally illogical to dismiss a hypothetical as "not having to worry about it ... JTIII would never do ..." That defeats the point of the question. As for the chest pains, sure there are a lot of things that can cause that. What was it? I don't know and you don't either. If it was just "gas," then the doctors are the ones whe screwed up, not me or you. Finally, again you say it was made up garbage. Ummm, I've asked before: where is your evidence of such? All you have done is give proof that what he said was accurate. In your own words: Meyer tells recruits he's fine--and needs a little time off but will be there to coach them. That's what he told everyone. How is that lying?


Finally:

1. Said he was leaving/resigning

Yes, he said he was resigning and then the next day said that after talking to his family, some doctors and Jeremy Foley, he's going along with the suggestion to take an indefinite leave of absence.

2. Scheduled a PC--and it was a Florida love in filled with nothing about Meyer at all being sick

I'm not sure what the point of this is. If you are talking about the first press conference, it was simply to make the initial announcement. If you are talking about the second, then it was to make the announcement that after talking to important people in his life, he had reconsidered and will take an indefinite leave of absence. Yes, he did mention that the feedback and dedication that the team had in a tumultuous time influenced him as well. So what? Once again, nothing you say supports lying. At worst, it supports criticism of how the issue was handled.

3. Then changed to leave of absence

And? We all know that. Certainly not a lie there

4. Meyer coaches Bowl Game-

Yes, so? That was the plan all along after the second press conference. No lie there.

5. Meyer Recruits

This is the only grey area. They didn't give specific details as to what would happen after the Sugar Bowl. But you could argue that one interpretation was that Meyer was leaving and having nothing to do with the program after the Sugar Bowl. I think that execises a lot of interpretive freedoms, but someone could make that case. In any case, Meyer toned his recruiting down dramatically. He was 24/7 recruiting in past years. He was on the road all the time that rules allowed. He wasn't this year. He designated a lot more responsibilities to his assistants. In any case, it would only be a lie if he knew that he was going to recruit but led on otherwise. Like I asked before: why would anyone do that? There would be NOTHING in it for him or the program.
6. Meyer tells recruits he's fine--and needs a little time off but will be there to coach themp

I don't know exactly what words were used, but he always said that he expected to be coaching the Gators next season, he just had a few issues to deal with. No lie here. In fact, as I pointed out, that's exactly what he told everyone.
7. Meyer tells Shariff Floyd "I had a dream you were a Gator and you are someone I'd risk my health to coach".

I've heard that. I don't know if it's a little exaggerated or not. In any case, I think it's kind of corny, but nothing to throw anyone under the bus about.
8. Meyer doesn't tell any recruits George Edwards--who was a LB Coach for Chan Gailey in NFL with Dallas is going to be his DC--even though it had be known for week/half prior to Signing Day.

This is one that I was concerned about. The timing certainly looked suspicious. However every single party involved denies any serious negotiations, let alone a agreement before signing day. Additionally, the fact that Edwards worked with Gailey in Miami and had just been hired made his interest in Edwards obviously legitimate. Additionally, there was only 1 player who could seemingly be impacted by the events -- the linebacker from Atlanta -- I think his name is Taylor. He didn't have Florida as a leader until after Edwards was hired. Then his interest seemed to change. Beyond that, it is speculation. In any case, you speak as the exact opposite of what eveyone says is gospel How do you expect us to view such obvious contradictions? Are we supposed to accept you ... some internet chat room guy from Minnesota, or what everyone involved on all sides confirms? Sorry, but your credibility is a bit lacking.

Did you not bring up Meyer's "good buddy" Skip Prosser?--I never mentioned it--and didn't see how it mattered--but you did to divert from topic. Meyer has lied and I don't like liars/wafflers. Should know that since you spend so much time here and waste so much time of people here, but then again it takes a comprehension beyond someone of your stature and the ability to understand that despite your allegiance--sometimes good coaches--even great coaches are scumball people who like their ego stroked--especially after they are depressed.

I did mention Prosser. Meyer did not mention him -- at least to my knowledge -- in December or since. But I do remember him having some public comments many months ago. Meyer never claimed -- at least to my knowledge -- to have factored that into his decision. Personally, I think that when you have incidents like Meyer had, and when a colleague has gone through what Prosser did so recently, it would make sense that maybe he did get a sort of "wake up call." But like I said, I have never heard Meyer mention it in this context. No lie here. As for depression, I'm not a doctor. Can depression cause such pains? Probably. Would that change the verdict however? I think not. I don't think that "stress" and "depression" are so drastically different. In any case, if "depression" was diagnosed as "stresss," then that's no reason to call out Meyer. Nope, no lie here.


So go back to the Swamp, "handle business" to Tebow years while you smoke a fatty, and volunteer to lance the boil on Meyer's ass--because the amount of time I have for this FABLE is over with. The man is truly ill--if he's faking an illness or as you and his cult feel "is sick" and putting his career and football ahead of his family-either way-he's a symbol for being a RICHARD-head and the type of leader that people like you deserve.

All obvious pre-adolescent drivel aside, the obvious issue was that maybe Meyer had been putting football first, ahead of health and family. He is obviously trying to find a balance. Can he? I don't know. A lot of the legitimate criticisms are that he "can't" go, unless he is going full speed. I do think that is a legitimate concern, but I don't know. In any case, there is no lie here.


The bottom line is this: you have not one single time given ANY evidence of even one lie, much less the repetitive pattern you imagine in your own little world. Maybe you're the one with the wacky tobaccy. Furthermore, every single thing I have said is logical. Any sane individual would understand that logical progression of events, even if they themselves might act differently. Ironically, the only thing of "relevance" you said were your elementary insults of me. Congratulations. Next time when you get in a debate, you might want to get your facts straight though.

[hifigator]

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but you did actually bring up all these accusations. All I did was release a coaching change which involved a major college and an NFL team.

I'm sure you will have some kind of ficticious rubbish about the author being my illegitimate son or something, but taking that risk:

sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=4897073


Strangely enough, not one shred of the complete nonsense you suggested was mentioned. I guess you'll just hang your hat on that "internet chat room from Minnesota" reputation.

[RDF]

Feb 10, 2010 0:36:11 GMT -5 hifigator said:

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but you did actually bring up all these accusations. All I did was release a coaching change which involved a major college and an NFL team.

I'm sure you will have some kind of ficticious rubbish about the author being my illegitimate son or something, but taking that risk:

sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=4897073


Strangely enough, not one shred of the complete nonsense you suggested was mentioned. I guess you'll just hang your hat on that "internet chat room from Minnesota" reputation.

WTF does this have to do with what I questioned? He was mentioned with not one of the recruits I LISTED that mentioned Meyer's role specifically--and you even alluded to the Shariff Floyd comment above--so you are contradicting yourself--AS ALWAYS.

I've more then proved my point and this link is about as worthless as the air you are allowed to waste by breathing.

[hifigator]

Feb 10, 2010 1:04:07 GMT -5 RDF said:

Feb 10, 2010 0:36:11 GMT -5 hifigator said:

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but you did actually bring up all these accusations. All I did was release a coaching change which involved a major college and an NFL team.

I'm sure you will have some kind of ficticious rubbish about the author being my illegitimate son or something, but taking that risk:

sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/news/story?id=4897073


Strangely enough, not one shred of the complete nonsense you suggested was mentioned. I guess you'll just hang your hat on that "internet chat room from Minnesota" reputation.

WTF does this have to do with what I questioned? He was mentioned with not one of the recruits I LISTED that mentioned Meyer's role specifically--and you even alluded to the Shariff Floyd comment above--so you are contradicting yourself--AS ALWAYS.

I've more then proved my point and this link is about as worthless as the air you are allowed to waste by breathing.

At the risk of tarnishing my image as a sound thinker (pausing for obvious jokes ...), I did just finish a poker tourney and decided to check back in. I don't have the time to go into details now, but then again, this won't take long.

RDF in some language and structure of his own, wrote:

WTF does this have to do with what I questioned? He was mentioned with not one of the recruits I LISTED that mentioned Meyer's role specifically--and you even alluded to the Shariff Floyd comment above--so you are contradicting yourself--AS ALWAYS.

You didn't "question" anything, other than maybe your own sexuality ... scratch that ... mods won't allow, and I understand. In all seriousness: "He was mentioned with not one of the recruits I LISTED that mentioned Meyer's role specifically" ...

awkward, if not even worse, wording aside, what is your point? Floyd was the key recruit of the oft-repeated story of the "dream." I have said from the very start, that the popular renditions circling around are somewhat strange at the very least. Still, there's nothing approaching the repetitive lies which you have managed to stumble onto. Of course, I would expect as much from someone languishing in a winter in ... nevermind. Seriously though, your most recent post really makes no sense. Read it tomorrow and then try to give us a version which properly conveys your logical thoughts ... if they exist.


Since this deals with an entirely different point, I will add this:

you even alluded to the Shariff Floyd comment above--so you are contradicting yourself--AS ALWAYS

Yes ... I mentione Floyd, as you also did. The point was that what Floyd was told by Meyer -- as both your rendition and everyone else's says -- is that Meyer expects to be coaching next year. Where exactly does this rumored "lying" come from?

I will ignore the "contradicting" myself as always comment, since we all know that even if you prove every single one of your points .... if you ever make any ... you will still be no better than ...at the very best a pot calling a kettle black. Personally, I don't want to lower myself to kettle level. That being said, I am going to try out the advice that Tommy and Cheech gave me earlier. I'll get back to you later.

[HoyaFanNY]

meyer is a hypocrite at its highest level. all this preaching faith and family while he's shagging a girl half his age behind his wifes back.

[hifigator]

Feb 11, 2010 7:25:43 GMT -5 HoyaFanNY said:

meyer is a hypocrite at its highest level. all this preaching faith and family while he's shagging a girl half his age behind his wifes back.

Is this another one of the stories from RDF alternative universe or have you actually read something on this?

[hifigator]

Florida finally seems to have another DC:


www.gatorsports.com/article/20100211/ARTICLES/100219895/1136?Title=Report-UF-hires-NFL-assistant-as-defensive-coordinator

[Boz]

Thank God!!! Whew!

[RDF]

Feb 11, 2010 15:26:02 GMT -5 hifigator said:

Florida finally seems to have another DC:


www.gatorsports.com/article/20100211/ARTICLES/100219895/1136?Title=Report-UF-hires-NFL-assistant-as-defensive-coordinator

Ugh---this belongs in the thread that was dedicated to this type of info--RAZZLE DAZZLE MOFO!

[hoya9797]

Feb 11, 2010 7:25:43 GMT -5 HoyaFanNY said:

meyer is a hypocrite at its highest level. all this preaching faith and family while he's shagging a girl half his age behind his wifes back.

The guy is a serial cheater. We all know about the cheating that goes on in his professional life so why would anyone be surprised that he cheats in his personal life.

[hifigator]

Boz wrote:

Thank God!!! Whew!

Well, I'm glad you will be able to sleep soundly now!

RDF wrote:

Ugh---this belongs in the thread that was dedicated to this type of info--RAZZLE DAZZLE MOFO!

I didn't want "real news" to get buried amongst the assorted late nite high cable channel "humor."

9797 wrote:

The guy is a serial cheater. We all know about the cheating that goes on in his professional life so why would anyone be surprised that he cheats in his personal life.

In all seriousness, I would be interested in hearing what facts lead you to this viewpoint. We all know that RDF has such a view, but has mysteriously misplaced the evidence.

[hifigator]

I know you all are likely on pins and needles now ... but still no official word from UF on the DC hire. In fact, the official word denying a deal look conspicuously uncertain. I'm still hearing some talk of Michael Barrow, of Miami Hurricane fame, being in the mix. Personally, I would love that selection -- not to say that I wouldn't like the Teryl Austin hire though.

[hoyarooter]

zzzzzzzzz

[hifigator]

The Gainesville Sun is now announcing the hire of Austin. So "we" can all sleep soundly now.

[hifigator]

Welcome back Buff, and you're welcome for your new DC.