ODU drops Georgetown

[dentalhoya]

Wow that article is brutal. ODU or at least the author have absolutely no respect about Georgetown.

Commenting on the facilities and committment to our program. If administration really wants to support the program then maybe this is a wake up call. I really hope it works out that way.

Now how do we scramble to fill the schedule?


Link added: hamptonroads.com/2010/01/hampton-oct-30

[PhillyHoya]

Apparently Richmond dropped us too? Ouch. There goes our two biggest chances for a large crowd outside of homecoming.

[DFW HOYA]

By late October, every conference is in league play. There are so few independents out there (Old Dominion being one of them) and the time is sufficiently late that if they don't have something already in place, they will have trouble. Only one of the five independent teams (Savannah State) has not announced a full schedule for 2010, and SSU traditionally does not venture beyond the Carolinas for opponents.

Per the American Football Coaches Association (not a comprehensive list, but as good as any), there are no I-AA teams seeking an opponent on either weekend.

www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&KEY=&ATCLID=289597

[HoyaSinceBirth]

On the plus side we can now lose every game this season and still claim success by saying " hey we lost less games then we lost last year"

[vcjack]

Is there any rule saying we can't fill the schedule gaps with DII or DIII schools?

Or hell lets make a splash and play Dematha or another WCAC school (it would be super illegal but its not like we recruit locally so we probably wouldn't get an advantage with any players)

[HoyaNyr320]

Maybe Maryland will have a bye week and can play us. I heard we looked great against them in 7 on 7's a couple years back.

[PhillyHoya]

This makes DeGioia's statement look even more like a dreaded "vote of confidence". He had to have known this was coming.

[hoyabound]

why is Howard not on our schedule?

[98hoya]

Jan 31, 2010 22:09:30 GMT -5 vcjack said:

Is there any rule saying we can't fill the schedule gaps with DII or DIII schools?

Or hell lets make a splash and play Dematha or another WCAC school (it would be super illegal but its not like we recruit locally so we probably wouldn't get an advantage with any players)

Not a good idea, even if allowable. Imagine the fallout if we lost to a D-3 school? In the early MAAC era, we did that a couple of times and it was really a terrible reminder of the difference between "real" D-1 and name-only D-1.

I think we'd crush must D-3 schools at this point, but still, I don't like the idea of being on the same field.

Oh, and agreed, DentalHoya: that article is brutal. I think it's a wee bit overconfident, but I can't say that from an objective standpoint it's totally off-base.

[hoyaparents]

Okay, let's take a reality check.

Rich Radfords "article" in the Norfolk Virginian Pilot is a blog, an opinion piece, his opinion, and probably has nothing to do with reality.

Even more established programs put "cupcake" games on their schedule.

We may never know why the game was cancelled.

Could it be basketball related? Maybe GU basketball does not want to reschedule ODU. Remember ODU was thought to be a "cupcake" game for us.

Forget about ODU, let's move on.

[theexorcist]

Feb 1, 2010 8:51:34 GMT -5 hoyaparents said:

Okay, let's take a reality check.

Rich Radfords "article" in the Norfolk Virginian Pilot is a blog, an opinion piece, his opinion, and probably has nothing to do with reality.

Even more established programs put "cupcake" games on their schedule.

We may never know why the game was cancelled.

Could it be basketball related? Maybe GU basketball does not want to reschedule ODU. Remember ODU was thought to be a "cupcake" game for us.

Forget about ODU, let's move on.

None of this makes any vestige of sense. The game may have been canceled for a variety of reasons, but almost all of them are bad. Most of them center around either Georgetown thinking that they would get destroyed and begging out, ODU thinking that beating the Hoyas wouldn't be too much of a challenge, or both. ODU almost certainly would have sold out the MSF, so them leaving matters.

If the Hoyas are using their basketball prowess to beg for games with mid-majors, then there are lots more problems.

As a previous poster has mentioned, there aren't a lot of open dates and no team, I-A or I-AA, has an open slot on the days when Georgetown plays.

Really, if DeGioia hadn't given a speech that said "we're doing our best to improve football" LAST WEEK, I'd be wondering if its days were numbered and this was just prep.

I'd like to "just move on", but this program is snakebit and I see nothing good from this latest news.

[lfn]

Jan 31, 2010 21:07:14 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

By late October, every conference is in league play. There are so few independents out there (Old Dominion being one of them) and the time is sufficiently late that if they don't have something already in place, they will have trouble. Only one of the five independent teams (Savannah State) has not announced a full schedule for 2010, and SSU traditionally does not venture beyond the Carolinas for opponents.

Per the American Football Coaches Association (not a comprehensive list, but as good as any), there are no I-AA teams seeking an opponent on either weekend.

New FCS independent Lamar has 11 games, but currently has an open date on the 23rd. What could be done - with a bit of shuffling and salesmanship - could be to have Lamar cancel a home game vs. NAIA Webber International on 9/11, schedule Georgetown at home for 10/23. You could also schedule Webber (I beleive) at home on 10/30, if footballscoop.com is correct.

www.lamarcardinals.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/lama-m-footbl-sched.html

www.footballscoop.com/?page_id=62

Good luck. Personally, I think a home game vs. Webber and a trip to Texas would be a great thing for you guys.

[HoyaNyr320]

Feb 1, 2010 11:21:23 GMT -5 lfn said:

Jan 31, 2010 21:07:14 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

By late October, every conference is in league play. There are so few independents out there (Old Dominion being one of them) and the time is sufficiently late that if they don't have something already in place, they will have trouble. Only one of the five independent teams (Savannah State) has not announced a full schedule for 2010, and SSU traditionally does not venture beyond the Carolinas for opponents.

Per the American Football Coaches Association (not a comprehensive list, but as good as any), there are no I-AA teams seeking an opponent on either weekend.

New FCS independent Lamar has 11 games, but currently has an open date on the 23rd. What could be done - with a bit of shuffling and salesmanship - could be to have Lamar cancel a home game vs. NAIA Webber International on 9/11, schedule Georgetown at home for 10/23. You could also schedule Webber (I beleive) at home on 10/30, if footballscoop.com is correct.

www.lamarcardinals.com/sports/m-footbl/sched/lama-m-footbl-sched.html

www.footballscoop.com/?page_id=62

Good luck. Personally, I think a home game vs. Webber and a trip to Texas would be a great thing for you guys.

I think this is a great idea but unfortunately, I don't think our football team has the budget to fly the team out for a game. I know that sounds ridiculous, but I can't think of our team ever playing an opponent that required our guys to fly. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.

Georgetown flew to Florida International in 2002 and San Diego in 2001; both were guarantee games. Some older folks will also recall the 1993 game played in Bermuda. There was also a game at St. Louis in the 1970's but I do not know if that was an airline or bus trip.--Admin

[derhoya]

owned.

[HoyaNyr320]

Feb 1, 2010 14:29:53 GMT -5 derhoya said:

owned.

I stand corrected. Although I'm not sure that flying out for two games almost 10 years ago shows that our athletic department would be willing to spend the money to do so again. It certainly doesn't amount to being "owned".

[strummer8526]

Feb 1, 2010 15:17:56 GMT -5 HoyaNyr320 said:

Feb 1, 2010 14:29:53 GMT -5 derhoya said:

owned.

I stand corrected. Although I'm not sure that flying out for two games almost 10 years ago shows that our athletic department would be willing to spend the money to do so again. It certainly doesn't amount to being "owned".

OOOOHHH!!! In your face! You didn't remember that our Edited-poor football team flew to a few games back in the years when they were only somewhere between mediocre and bad! BURN!

Until the University DOES SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT—and Jack giving one of his usual platitudes about "educating the whole person" is not doing something and it's not significant—this program will remain a joke and a half.

[hoya4ever]

Well actually, if we don't get more games for next year we will be only half a joke. Isn't there a minimum quota of games per season?

[HoyaNyr320]

Feb 1, 2010 16:54:24 GMT -5 hoya4ever said:

Well actually, if we don't get more games for next year we will be only half a joke. Isn't there a minimum quota of games per season?

Fortunately for us, the minimum is 9. So if we aren't able to schedule any other games, we'll at least be allowed to play a season per NCAA rules.

www.utsa.edu/ucomm/athletics/iv.htm

[kchoya]

Feb 1, 2010 8:51:34 GMT -5 hoyaparents said:

Okay, let's take a reality check.

Rich Radfords "article" in the Norfolk Virginian Pilot is a blog, an opinion piece, his opinion, and probably has nothing to do with reality.

Even more established programs put "cupcake" games on their schedule.

We may never know why the game was cancelled.

Could it be basketball related? Maybe GU basketball does not want to reschedule ODU. Remember ODU was thought to be a "cupcake" game for us.

Forget about ODU, let's move on.

I don't remember anyone thinking ODU was a cupcake game.

[3706R]

Even being able to schedule teams like Richmond and a few of the Ivy's make me appreciate more and more what Bob Benson did for the program.