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Post by Churchwell on Feb 16, 2005 11:50:54 GMT -5
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Post by Shmerrick2 on Feb 16, 2005 13:57:38 GMT -5
Here's the text: It feels like old times at Georgetown: Coach John Thompson has the Hoyas sitting among the Big East's elite teams and competing for a spot in the NCAA tournament. But look more closely, and you'll see that much has changed. Coming off its worst season in 31 years, when it lost its last nine games to finish 13-15, Georgetown was picked to finish 11th out of 12 teams in the Big East this season. Instead the Hoyas, who start three freshmen, were in third place in the conference at week's end with an 8-3 record (16-6 overall). They had won seven of their last nine games and are on track to return to the Big Dance for the first time in four years.
[SNIPPED - please do not paste copyrighted articles in their entirety here. Thanks.]
Whether that's true or not, Georgetown fans couldn't be happier. For last Saturday's game against West Virginia at the MCI Center, hundreds of students wore gray-and-blue T-shirts that said some have forgotten. we will remind them. Under the slogan, in bold type, was a subtle tribute to the person responsible for Georgetown's comeback: a giant Roman numeral iii.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2005 13:58:24 GMT -5
With props for the t-shirts! Nice.....
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 16, 2005 14:10:14 GMT -5
Now if only Nodak's songs could get the recognition they deserve!!! Seriously, someone put them on a tape and hand them to the PA people or even GU radio....
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 16, 2005 17:34:19 GMT -5
What is Admin's concern about copyright violations all about? The legitimate uses of the Hoyatalk board vastly exceed any potential exchange of copyrighted information, such that there is no chance on earth that DFW would be contributorily liable for any sharing of information that goes on here. That means the only people breaking the law are those who post, and if they wish to do so, its at their own risk, not the website's.
Maybe I have the law wrong, and an acquiescence over something they could reasonably control would be dispositive, but I don't think so. Any IP lawyers out there want to correct me?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 16, 2005 17:35:10 GMT -5
What is Admin's concern about copyright violations all about? The legitimate uses of the Hoyatalk board vastly exceed any potential exchange of copyrighted information, such that there is no chance on earth that DFW would be contributorily liable for any sharing of information that goes on here. That means the only people breaking the law are those who post, and if they wish to do so, its at their own risk, not the website's. Maybe I have the law wrong, and an acquiescence over something they could reasonably control would be dispositive, but I don't think so. Any IP lawyers out there want to correct me? I don't know the law, but this is SOP for message boards.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 16, 2005 17:45:04 GMT -5
What is Admin's concern about copyright violations all about? The legitimate uses of the Hoyatalk board vastly exceed any potential exchange of copyrighted information, such that there is no chance on earth that DFW would be contributorily liable for any sharing of information that goes on here. That means the only people breaking the law are those who post, and if they wish to do so, its at their own risk, not the website's. Maybe I have the law wrong, and an acquiescence over something they could reasonably control would be dispositive, but I don't think so. Any IP lawyers out there want to correct me? My guess is the law isn't very clear-internet laws usually aren't. And while you might be right, odds are they don't want to have to deal with any legal action against them, even if they'll eventually be cleared.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 16, 2005 17:48:52 GMT -5
You think SI.com would sue Hoyatalk over an occasional infringement when the law is such that they probably can't win anyway? Not at the prices they pay their attorneys. Good lawyers who know what the law is going in aren't going to waste their time here.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 16, 2005 17:51:19 GMT -5
You think SI.com would sue Hoyatalk over an occasional infringement when the law is such that they probably can't win anyway? Not at the prices they pay their attorneys. Good lawyers who know what the law is going in aren't going to waste their time here. I think the idea is better safe than sorry. That of course is just me speculating-I'd be interested to hear the actual thought process behind it.
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Post by SoCalHoya on Feb 16, 2005 18:19:11 GMT -5
Well, assuming they actually learned to read and write (I know, a huge assumption), if some 'Cuse alumnus working at SI saw it, he might report it.
And who wants to deal with lawsuits anyways? Messy.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 16, 2005 18:29:34 GMT -5
It would never happen.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Feb 16, 2005 18:58:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't completely rule it out. Some companies are very protective of their intellectual property and will file lawsuits regardless of the cost/benefit involved.
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Post by TigerHoya on Feb 16, 2005 19:20:41 GMT -5
It has already happened. The Washington Post and another paper got an injunction against FreeRepublic.com's forums and they only allow excerpts and links now to articles from those two publications.
Other newspapers have made threats against site owners (in some cases for as little as a link or an excerpt.)
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Post by TokyoHoya on Feb 16, 2005 19:45:12 GMT -5
The feasability of the suit would most likely depend upon the degree of control that the HoyaTalk administrators have over the forum. If they simply enable the forum to exist, i.e., arrange for posters to post messages and content with no editorial control, their are unlikely to be liable for contributory infringement. In the actual case here, the administrators do have quite a bit of editorial control of the content posted to the forum and thus would risk liability for contributory infringement.
The likelihood of a lawsuit, particularly where the instances of infringement are rare, is obviously quite low. On the other hand, the RIAA has aggressively filed lawsuits against individuals illegally downloading music. In addition, given the minimal effort required to avoid these types of infringement, the administrators are better off deleting the infringing content.
Yes, I'm an IP lawyer.
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 16, 2005 22:52:34 GMT -5
too many freaking gu lawyers .. you guys are confusing lichoya whats this all about go hoyas flush the johnnies ps can i say that here or will i be sued or indicted or whatever you all do gohoyas flush the johnnies.. there i said it again sue me as long as the hoyas win ive got lawyer friends and relatives too go hoyas lawyers and all
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Post by TokyoHoya on Feb 17, 2005 0:57:17 GMT -5
too many freaking gu lawyers .. you guys are confusing lichoya whats this all about go hoyas flush the johnnies ps can i say that here or will i be sued or indicted or whatever you all do gohoyas flush the johnnies.. there i said it again sue me as long as the hoyas win ive got lawyer friends and relatives too go hoyas lawyers and all Gee, thanks for not excluding me for being a lawyer, Lic.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 17, 2005 3:53:19 GMT -5
So basically, DFW's first "mistake" was designating other people he trusted to take control of the site. If he hadn't done that, and then showed up in court and explained the life that he has outside of "Hoyatalk" he'd probably have been okay?
Obviously, if the Supreme Court decides to cut significantly back on Sony in their upcoming Grokster ruling, then all of this changes. Right?
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