OldHoyafan
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Post by OldHoyafan on Dec 14, 2009 12:30:09 GMT -5
Henry has made two bad passes in the Temple game and the Wahington game that resulted in layups on the other end. Chris and Freeman have made twice as many "bad" passes but their minutes have been significantly more. Henry's stand out because he has made them shortly after entering game and is pulled almost immediately. Now I don't blame JT3 for making the pull because Julian and Hollis were playing well in these tighttly contested games. Henry's recognition of when to throw the pass is about a second too slow. The cutter is open but he pulls the trigger a little late like a QB who stares at his receiver too long before making the pass, the defense reacts to his eyes and intercepts his pass. I have noticed that the number of backdoor "bounce" passes has declined over the last 2 years. The backdoor passes are still there but are passes that don't touch the floor before hitting the hands of the cutter. I mention this because hand-eye coordination of a defender is usually better than his feet-eye coordination, i.e, his hands move quicker to intercept ball than his feet. I don't know if this lack of bounce backdoor passes is a result of an inability of the Hoyas to catch bounce passes or the inability of Hoyas to make good bounce passes. Green and Ewing, Jr. were 2 of the best big men at making the bounce backdoor pass I have seen.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Dec 19, 2009 21:33:01 GMT -5
How Did Henry Sims do tonight?
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 19, 2009 21:35:09 GMT -5
not much played little at least on to didnot look mean and he must be mean and consistant for us to do well HENRY BE MEANER PLEASE ;D ;D
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 19, 2009 22:59:58 GMT -5
I say this having been a huge Sims supporter in the past. He needs to be recruited over. He makes passes that sixth graders wouldn't make. He's scared to death out there, he doesn't understand the concept of team defense and he's improved zero from last season to this year. In fact, he's regressed about 50 percent. Bennimon, to me, needs to be the first big off the bench. It's obvious to me that he's not a player, and doesn't have the mental makeup to be.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Dec 19, 2009 23:06:20 GMT -5
Hopefully Henry will have the patience to stick with it and not quit like macklin did. Henry will come around he's shown potential. He'll be good for us in spots and down the line. Ticket did not quit. He decided to play for a team that has a system in place that allows him to maximize his skill set. He did what he believes is best for his basketball future.
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 19, 2009 23:09:17 GMT -5
And we see where he is today, doing no better then he would if he would have stayed at Georgetown. Are you trying to get every thread locked?
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Dec 19, 2009 23:16:21 GMT -5
And we see where he is today, doing no better then he would if he would have stayed at Georgetown. Are you trying to get every thread locked? ---------------------- You are the one who attcked vernon by saying he quit deleted. If the thread gets locked it will be b/c of your stupid attack on vernon even though he is not the subject of the thread
Reminder: no name calling - discuss the thread topic not the other posters.
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 19, 2009 23:21:25 GMT -5
And we see where he is today, doing no better then he would if he would have stayed at Georgetown. Are you trying to get every thread locked? ---------------------- You are the one who attcked vernon by saying he quit deleted. If the thread gets locked it will be b/c of your stupid attack on vernon even though he is not the subject of the thread Didn't get to watch the game tonight but from what I have heard Benimon has looked better then Henry, still love Henry's big time blocks but they aren't enough to warrant the first spot off the bench (for bigs) I didnt even make the initial post saying that he quit, look that up before you attack other posters and COMPLETELY ensure the thread would be locked. I also don't see anything in EITHER of your posts pertaining to Henry Sims. Oh well, I hope that your sidekick is fully functioning and receiving texts...where you at?
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Dec 19, 2009 23:29:20 GMT -5
I didnt even make the initial post saying that he quit, look that up before you attack other posters and COMPLETELY ensure the thread would be locked. I also don't see anything in EITHER of your posts pertaining to Henry Sims. Oh well, I hope that your sidekick is fully functioning and receiving texts...where you at? ---------------------------
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 19, 2009 23:39:05 GMT -5
ENOUGH OFF TOPIC POSTS. Posts aimed simply at baiting other posters in the thread will be deleted without further warning.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 20, 2009 5:37:25 GMT -5
WE NEED HENRY TO BE MEAN TO HAVE OUR TWO HEADED MONSTER CENTER HENRY WAS NOT MEAN VS. ODU AND BAD RESULT HES GOT HARVARD TO GET IT GOING HENRYPLEASEBEMUCHMOREMEANERTHETIMEISNOWRIGHTNOW go hoyas beat harvard please ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Dec 20, 2009 10:39:29 GMT -5
I agree completely with Daytona. My messages seem to get deleted for reasons which are beyond me so from now on I guess I will just positively or negatively reflect my opinions by references to other posts.
MOD NOTE: Commentary on players' on-court performance is fair game; speculation on their team/scholarship status, present or future, is not. This is quite clear in the board rules and is why the post you mention was deleted.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Dec 20, 2009 12:10:32 GMT -5
WE NEED HENRY TO BE MEAN TO HAVE OUR TWO HEADED MONSTER CENTER HENRY WAS NOT MEAN VS. ODU AND BAD RESULT HES GOT HARVARD TO GET IT GOING HENRYPLEASEBEMUCHMOREMEANERTHETIMEISNOWRIGHTNOW go hoyas beat harvard please ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Henry needs to learn the system. The question is, will he learn it sooner rather than later. Greg is the one that needs to be meaner, imo.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Dec 20, 2009 13:09:18 GMT -5
Ive been saying exactly what daytona said check the posts in this thread. Its not that anyof us wants him to do bad.. He just has not progressed one bit since his first day on the hilltop. In this day in age where frosh are IMPACT players, His play after a year and a half is totally unexceptable IMO. Hollis, Bennimon, and Vee should play over Sims. When our recruits come in next year Mr Sims might find himself in quite the pickle..
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 20, 2009 13:22:44 GMT -5
Let me be absolutely clear. I like Henry, want him to succeed and it hurt me to write what I did last night.
At the same time, basketball is a game of production, and Henry hasn't produced anything since he's been here. At least not anything tangible.
I look at Henry, see 6-11 legit, long arms, hops, shot blocking ability, and I think potential.
At some point, though, you have to turn potential into production. Henry's not stronger than he was last year. He doesn't have an offensive move. He doesn't run the floor well. He was a good passer last year, and that's regressed.
You can say he needs to learn the system, but he's been here longer than Hollis and the other freshmen and they seem to know the system just fine, so I think that's a cop out.
I want him to succeed, and coach reallllllyyyy wants him to succeed. That's why Henry keeps getting chances.
But he's not getting it done, and in the process he's costing our team dearly when he's on the court. And I happen to love our team way more than I want to develop a kid.
Maybe if he's out of the rotation, he'll work to actually improve.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 20, 2009 13:31:52 GMT -5
You could say everything that has been said about Henry in this thread about Julian last year plus that it looked like he couldn't jump at all.
Players need time and some need more than others.
The problem isn't Henry necessarily, it's people's expectations. Just look at Richfame's post. "Impact" freshmen? Henry was consensus 51st in his class. Hardly the only guy in that range to need some time.
I also love the whining about posts getting deleted. You can scream all you want for someone to get benched or their scholarship cut but someone deletes an over the line post or disagrees with you and you are irreparably harmed.
That's not to say Henry doesn't need to improve. But some of the posts here are overreacting to the extreme.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 20, 2009 13:57:54 GMT -5
SF,
How much time does Henry need to do something, anything, positive on the court? My concern is more than the turnovers, which are just absolutely horrific.
He plays scared, he hasn't put on any strength. and most of all, he's lost defensively and lost in terms of knowing what to do offensively. Those are two things he should've known by now.
Not saying he's a lost cause, yet. But Bennimon is playing better than him and should play before him. And Mr. Sims should know that he's three months away from the midway point of his college career. He might want to learn the offense at some point.
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Buckets
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Post by Buckets on Dec 20, 2009 14:21:46 GMT -5
I didn't really think this was worthy of its own thread, and it seemed like this might be the best place to put it.
Monroe FT shooting when he plays less than 35 minutes: 75% (88/118) Monroe FT shooting when he plays 35 minutes or more: 57% (49/86)
You can probably chalk some of that up to nerves since he plays more in important games, but I think it's also pretty obvious that he is not physically capable of being on the floor for that much of the game. So whether you want Sims or Benimon out there, we need someone other than Greg in there for longer than we have so far this season.
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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Dec 20, 2009 14:36:11 GMT -5
I was not a big supporter of Julian last year and I was gladly wrong as to how much I thought he would suceed this year, but I completely disagree with SF on this one. Julian never played tentatively last year. He made a ton of mistakes but was never tentative. Sims is not confident and that is not from just not knowing the system this is an endemic flaw. He even looks tentative going onto the floor. That type of attitude rarely improves at this level. It is a shame but that is the way it is. Sadly, we need our freshman depth to develop now to be playing in mid March.
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Dec 20, 2009 15:23:06 GMT -5
I'd split Henry's minutes between Vee and Jerelle. Hollis is getting Julian's minutes, maybe rightfully, even though I have always been a big Julian supporter.
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