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Post by Admin on Nov 11, 2009 13:48:20 GMT -5
OK, here we go....
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 11, 2009 14:10:26 GMT -5
Hoya catch Richmond sleeping; only lose 52-0.
OK, OK, sorry. Go get 'em boys. No matter the result, our guys will get to see how they stack up to against I-A level competition.
Note that Sagarin has Richmond ranked #57 of ANY college team, putting them ahead of little ol' nobodies like Texas A&M and Michigan (both of those teams, by the way, are well on track to be bowl eligible).
Soooo, ya, good luck, lace'm up tight, enjoy the experience and hit 'em hard.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Nov 11, 2009 14:51:45 GMT -5
If we win this game, does it count as 10 ordinary games (making us bowl eligible)? Good luck Hoyas!
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HoyaNyr320
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Nov 11, 2009 15:08:12 GMT -5
Are our chances better or worse than a 16 seed vs. a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament?
I go back and forth on this one, but I think if we were to win, it would be an even bigger upset than a 16 vs. 1, which obviously has not happened in the NCAA tournament history....
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Post by hoyaparents on Nov 11, 2009 23:05:39 GMT -5
I had hoped this would be a meaningless game for the Spiders, but with the loss last week and a drop to #4 in the polls, and a tough match-up next week against William & Mary, Richmond will be coming to play, at least in the first half.
I recall last season the discussion with Muir as to why this series was even scheduled, there is no upside for the Hoyas. I believe the score last year was 48 - 0. and the game stats were even worse than the score.
Play hard, be safe.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Nov 11, 2009 23:21:49 GMT -5
The best outcome we can hope for is no injuries.
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derhoya
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Post by derhoya on Nov 11, 2009 23:43:04 GMT -5
If we win this game, I will immediately max out my CC on booze and party necessities for everyone on the team.
i think some better question/predictions are:
-how much offense do we muster? north of 100yds?
-Over/under 3 mins on how long it takes for UR to score against us?
-Will we pass the 50 yard line at all in the game? If so, how late in the 4th quarter will it be and will it be against the 3rd or 4th team def?
In all honesty, when I was in high school (99-03), Richmond was continously the dog of the then A10, now CAA. And then things began to change with their former HC Clawson being hired... In doing a little searching on their website, I see a very interesting progression that maybe, just maybe we could immulate.
Briefly here's a quick recap of UR's recent history:
-3-8 in 2001,
-4-7 in 2002,
-2-9 in 2003,
-hire new coach, Clawson, 2/2004, make several facility improvements including field turf (might I add in just 3 months, June to August) then go 3-8 in 2004,
-8-3 in 2005 and make it 2 rounds into the playoffs (coach named I-AA COY) - interesting note- they lost to Lafayette in week 2 - 7 to 0; we lost 12-7 that year,
-finish at 6-5 (beating Duke) in 2006 - don't forget the $20M campaign to fund the construction of a new facility/stadium (housing M/W soccer, lax, track, and fball) -
-in 2007 they finish 9-2 and go three rounds in the playoffs to lose in a shoot out to eventual champ - App st.
-in 2008, Dawson leaves to be OC at Tenn in 1/2008 - by mid Jan they have their current HC hired from UVa, they finish 8-3, win 4 games in the playoffs and are national champions...
Yes, scholarships put UR's rise at a different incline, but the potential for success as seen by UR's progression from a nobody to a national power could, to some degree, be actualized at Georgetown as well. Everyone in the PL knows it and fears it.
I can only assume that in Dawson's hiring he negotiated certain commitments/improvements to be made for the facilities. In short time, those changes were made and UR got the players necessary to compete. With their quick success, they were able to fund a new facility improvements and become what they are today - #1 in the nation.
UR's progression seem to appear as follows: new HC+Admin support > players + modest facility increases > better record (playoffs) > alum $$$ for stadium > national power.
Apologies to 98hoya for not being the messiah and leading to any real movement but our program isn't that far off, and why can't we be like UR? we've had many primary donors who were either burned or turned away that would have finished this stadium long ago, and if the stadium MUST be finished before the bball practice facility - it certainly will be up within 3 years as our bball team will want to stay competitive. So the way I see it, we're going to get our facilities fairly soon, so how much room do we have to advance the roster, coaching staff and overall admin support? Roster: we have the horses, just need more depth, plan and simple. Admin: face it, Prez is fball grad - program isn't going anywhere, but the university has no money. As it's shown, leadership in fundraising for sports besides bball isn't exactly high on their agenda. Hoyas Unlimited, Gridiron Club, and Gtown Football Parents Assoc. will have to move these issues. Coaches: We'd need approximately $1M to properly fund the coaching staff and its needs. Can this forum's first line of action be to properly fund a bonus of sorts for any new coach? Or if we want a more exact line, can it be hanging carrots to reward any scaled achievement (great recruits, win first game, winning record, all home games, PL championship, etc). I know they use to award $2k for coaches recruiting certain players in their area, but i'm unsure if that continues. This is a long, rambling post, sorry - what are your thoughts?
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 12, 2009 9:37:05 GMT -5
If we win this game, I will immediately max out my CC on booze and party necessities for everyone on the team. i think some better question/predictions are: -how much offense do we muster? north of 100yds? -Over/under 3 mins on how long it takes for UR to score against us? -Will we pass the 50 yard line at all in the game? If so, how late in the 4th quarter will it be and will it be against the 3rd or 4th team def? In all honesty, when I was in high school (99-03), Richmond was continously the dog of the then A10, now CAA. And then things began to change with their former HC Clawson being hired... In doing a little searching on their website, I see a very interesting progression that maybe, just maybe we could immulate. Briefly here's a quick recap of UR's recent history: -3-8 in 2001, -4-7 in 2002, -2-9 in 2003, -hire new coach, Clawson, 2/2004, make several facility improvements including field turf (might I add in just 3 months, June to August) then go 3-8 in 2004, -8-3 in 2005 and make it 2 rounds into the playoffs (coach named I-AA COY) - interesting note- they lost to Lafayette in week 2 - 7 to 0; we lost 12-7 that year, -finish at 6-5 (beating Duke) in 2006 - don't forget the $20M campaign to fund the construction of a new facility/stadium (housing M/W soccer, lax, track, and fball) - -in 2007 they finish 9-2 and go three rounds in the playoffs to lose in a shoot out to eventual champ - App st. -in 2008, Dawson leaves to be OC at Tenn in 1/2008 - by mid Jan they have their current HC hired from UVa, they finish 8-3, win 4 games in the playoffs and are national champions... Yes, scholarships put UR's rise at a different incline, but the potential for success as seen by UR's progression from a nobody to a national power could, to some degree, be actualized at Georgetown as well. Everyone in the PL knows it and fears it. I can only assume that in Dawson's hiring he negotiated certain commitments/improvements to be made for the facilities. In short time, those changes were made and UR got the players necessary to compete. With their quick success, they were able to fund a new facility improvements and become what they are today - #1 in the nation. UR's progression seem to appear as follows: new HC+Admin support > players + modest facility increases > better record (playoffs) > alum $$$ for stadium > national power. Apologies to 98hoya for not being the messiah and leading to any real movement but this Edited isn't that far off, and why can't we be like UR? we've had many primary donors who were either burned or turned away that would have finished this stadium long ago, and if the stadium MUST be finished before the bball practice facility - it certainly will be up within 3 years as our bball team will want to stay competitive. So the way I see it, we're going to get our facilities fairly soon, so how much room do we have to advance the roster, coaching staff and overall admin support? Roster: I don't see the roster as that big of a probably besides the depth issue, but we have the horses to win games, plan and simple. Admin: face it, Prez is fball grad - program isn't going anywhere, but the university has no money. As it's shown, leadership in fundraising for sports besides bball isn't exactly high on their agenda. Hoyas Unlimited, Gridiron Club, and Gtown Football Parents Assoc. will have to move these issues. Coaches: I mentioned it last year, we'd need approximately $1M to properly fund the coaching staff and its needs. I don't see why this forum can't serve as a informal forum to get people informed on the issues and moved to act. Can this forum's first line of action be to properly fund a bonus of sorts for any new coach? Or if we want a more exact line, can it be hanging carrot to reward any scaled achievement (great recruits, win first game, winning record, all home games, PL championship, etc). I know they use to award $2k for coaches recruiting certain players in their area, but i'm unsure if that continues. This is a long, rambling post, sorry - what are your thoughts? I saw a concrete suggestion in there, which was to give coaches a bonus for recruiting. Based on that, I agree, you are not the messiah. But I do think increasing funding/donations would be a good thing. Also, if you want to shell out and give a designated gift for coaching bonuses, I bet the athletic department would accept it. Maybe we could create some sort of matching donation challenge and we could start right here. How about if you start off with a figure that you'll commit and let's see how many people will commit to matching it (if it's something I can afford, I will)? |
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 12, 2009 12:20:05 GMT -5
Richmond won at Duke 24-16 in both teams' season opener. Duke is actually 5-4 so far this year, and 3-2 in the ACC with wins over Maryland, NC State (who beat #12 Pitt), and UVA.
A win on Saturday would be "The Miracle at MSF." If we put any points on the board, and if we hold them to less than last year's output of 48, I think it will be progress.
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Post by hsaxa2010 on Nov 12, 2009 15:34:11 GMT -5
So if we won, would we be able to rush the field and pull the uprights down?? I think this could be a good way to advertise and bribe students to show up for the game (at least until they start trouncing us)
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 12, 2009 15:41:07 GMT -5
So if we won, would we be able to rush the field and pull the uprights down?? I think this could be a good way to advertise and bribe students to show up for the game (at least until they start trouncing us) Honestly, it'd be tough to argue against allowing that. Plus, as long as the construction crew has to come out and replace them, they might as well stick around and finish the MSF. |
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Post by hoyahopeful on Nov 13, 2009 13:17:45 GMT -5
Are our chances better or worse than a 16 seed vs. a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament? I go back and forth on this one, but I think if we were to win, it would be an even bigger upset than a 16 vs. 1, which obviously has not happened in the NCAA tournament history.... It would clearly be bigger. The 16 seeds in the tournament have all won a championship and probably did that in a tournament. But the Georgetown football team... |
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Post by vcjack on Nov 13, 2009 13:27:23 GMT -5
So if we won, would we be able to rush the field and pull the uprights down?? I think this could be a good way to advertise and bribe students to show up for the game (at least until they start trouncing us) its gonna happen if we cover |
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 14, 2009 12:44:28 GMT -5
So if we won, would we be able to rush the field and pull the uprights down?? I think this could be a good way to advertise and bribe students to show up for the game (at least until they start trouncing us) its gonna happen if we cover There's nothing that we can cover that will make this anything short of a bloodletting. |
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2009 13:00:43 GMT -5
Narional anthem playing, clock tower tolling noon in the background.
The WXGI feed is a little better to hear than the GU feed, which has a lot of static. Spiders noting their locker room is more of a hallway than a room. Hey, it could be worswew, they could be in the SW Quad!
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2009 13:05:38 GMT -5
1st play, Georgetown fumble at its 25.
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 14, 2009 13:06:33 GMT -5
FIRST offensive play of game...Darby in at QB and we fumble and they recover. Richmond ball at our 25. This is not going to be pretty.
Whatever we get beat by, Richmond owes us one. The 1900 result of this game:
Georgetown 84, Richmond 0
I wonder if Richmond will top that today.
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2009 13:09:46 GMT -5
Five plays, 25 yards UR 7-0.
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 14, 2009 13:15:47 GMT -5
We get the ball back, struggle for a couple first downs (a pleasant surprise) and Darby throws an INT.
Why are we playing Richmond, again?
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2009 13:22:02 GMT -5
WXGI announcer: "I thought Mr. Multi-Sport was the donor for this place."
(Fill-in talk begins early.)
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