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Post by sead43 on Oct 17, 2009 2:03:11 GMT -5
It's been mentioned briefly in the main MM thread and there is a thread over at 37th & O, but figured it deserved it's own thread here (mods feel free to adjust/consolidate as needed).
Seems like one shot was fired in a men's bathroom in McDonough towards the end of Midnight Madness. A male Georgetown student is in custody.
The story from inside the gym was that as the basketball drills were finishing up, JTIII returned to the court and tried to get a "We Are Georgetown" going again. While he was speaking, VP for Student Affairs Todd Olson came onto the court and whispered something in JTIII's ear. Coach continued on very calmly, telling everyone to stay in the gym...but that actually didn't sound suspicious because people had strangely begun to leave in the middle of the drills (that's another story of the night...this MM just did not have the same enthusiasm/energy as past events) so it seemed like he just didn't want us to leave before the event was over. Then he invited everyone down onto the court to hang out/dance/etc.
Turns out all that was actually a tactic to get us to stay inside while MPD/DPS investigated the incident. Students were oblivious until we started to exit and saw lots of cops milling about outside and the left hallway doors off the lobby closed and guarded by an MPD officer. There were many police cars (MPD and Park Police) parked outside and more arriving.
The reports that say McDonough was "locked down" and that students were "detained" are a little misleading because we had no idea it was going on and I honestly never noticed the flow of people out of the arena ever really stop.
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Post by sead43 on Oct 17, 2009 2:05:00 GMT -5
www.thehoya.com/news/student-arrested-after-shot-fired/blog.georgetownvoice.com/2009/10/17/more-information-and-photos-from-tonights-midnight-madness-shooting/E-mail sent at 2:39 AM: Dear Students, Faculty and Staff, At approximately 10:30 pm last night during the Midnight Madness event in McDonough Gym, a report was made of a gunshot in the building. DPS officers working the event responded to one of the men’s restrooms and found evidence that a gun had been discharged in that room. There were no injuries to any individuals and no evidence that any individual was being targeted. DPS and MPD officers immediately responded to the scene and began searching the gym and surrounding area for suspect(s). Officers quickly identified a possible suspect and recovered the handgun involved in the incident. MPD has arrested the suspect, a Georgetown student, who was removed from campus and taken into custody. MPD is conducting a follow up investigation. Police tell us this appears to be an isolated incident and there is no continuing threat to the university community. As you know, we take the safety and security of our campus community very seriously and we appreciate the quick and effective work of DPS and MPD officers to resolve this matter expeditiously. Sincerely, Rocco DelMonaco, Vice President for University Safety Todd Olson, Vice President for Student Affairs
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Oct 17, 2009 2:32:08 GMT -5
Wow - that's awful stuff without a place in the GU community. Security responded appropriately and seems to have done a good job with the scene and post-event communication. The student should be punished to the fullest extent possible given the danger from firing a shot and in possibly creating a volatile situation at this kind of large-scale event.
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Oct 17, 2009 6:51:25 GMT -5
Wow - that's awful stuff without a place in the GU community. Security responded appropriately and seems to have done a good job with the scene and post-event communication. The student should be punished to the fullest extent possible given the danger from firing a shot and in possibly creating a volatile situation at this kind of large-scale event. He should be permanently expelled and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. End of story.... |
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Post by kchoya on Oct 17, 2009 7:15:10 GMT -5
Maybe the student was studying District of Columbia v. Heller in a constitutional law class???
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Post by strummer8526 on Oct 17, 2009 9:50:48 GMT -5
Wow - that's awful stuff without a place in the GU community. Security responded appropriately and seems to have done a good job with the scene and post-event communication. The student should be punished to the fullest extent possible given the danger from firing a shot and in possibly creating a volatile situation at this kind of large-scale event. He should be permanently expelled and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. End of story.... Absolutely right. Forget getting a diploma. He should be sitting in a jail cell for a little while. Any number of things might have happened. Everyone is very lucky that no one was shot and also that the shot was fired in such a way that there was no mass exodus/trampling to get out. Hell, I'd expel anyone who knew he had the thing. If that's 30 friends, I'd say they should all go. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 17, 2009 10:13:25 GMT -5
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Post by The Stig on Oct 17, 2009 10:25:56 GMT -5
Glad nobody was injured, and kudos to the administration, JTIII, DPS, and MPD. It sounds like they handled this situation very well.
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Post by The Stig on Oct 17, 2009 10:27:47 GMT -5
And after reading the Voice story, major non-kudos to the "female officer with a federal agency, possibly the Park Police" who let their gun get stolen.
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Post by strummer8526 on Oct 17, 2009 10:53:40 GMT -5
And after reading the Voice story, major non-kudos to the "female officer with a federal agency, possibly the Park Police" who let their gun get stolen. Also right on. This should forever put to bed the idea that we need DPS officers running around w/ guns. This would become a weekly occurrence if they were armed. It does sound like III did a great job of rolling with what I'm sure was an awkward and potentially scary situation for him. |
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Post by jgalt on Oct 17, 2009 11:03:18 GMT -5
Man, some people. I cant imagine being so drunk as to think it is ok to handle a weapon let alone take one from a police officer. The kid may have ruined his life to do something that stupid and pointless. At least it was not someone who came to MM with malicious intent. Things could have turned out much worse. Kudos to DPS for acting quickly. When I left I didnt see any Metro officers (of course they could have all left with the kid but i didnt see any before MM either) so I give credit to DPS for handling the situation quickly.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Oct 17, 2009 11:16:33 GMT -5
Shots fired at Midnight Madness: the ultimate recuiting tool.
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Post by hoosierhoya on Oct 17, 2009 11:25:10 GMT -5
They updated the Voice article again with the name of the kid based on MPD arrest records. He should really change his crazy looking Facebook picture...
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Post by jgalt on Oct 17, 2009 11:27:26 GMT -5
They updated the Voice article again with the name of the kid based on MPD arrest records. He should really change his crazy looking Facebook picture... Yeah, but i have a feeling he has been occupied for the last 18 and hasnt gotten a chance to get on facebook  |
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Post by lichoya68 on Oct 17, 2009 11:44:55 GMT -5
very sad very sad i do agree that jt3 and georgetown handled this very well at first i thought he was just trying to keep the crowd from leaving as espn still seemed to be broadcasting but he was calm they handled it right. its about more than bball gohoyas kudos for calmness and not making a panic
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Post by lichoya68 on Oct 17, 2009 11:52:50 GMT -5
i also hope the students think twice about fun drinking to get drunk as bad things can happen to good people life is short very short go hoyas be smart
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Post by Buckets on Oct 17, 2009 12:18:00 GMT -5
How exactly does one take a handgun from an officer without him or her noticing? Embarrassing, and she should be fired immediately. If you can't keep track of a gun on your person, you should not have a gun.
As for the student's expulsion, I would say this is a foregone conclusion.
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Post by vcjack on Oct 17, 2009 12:40:27 GMT -5
How exactly does one take a handgun from an officer without him or her noticing? Embarrassing, and she should be fired immediately. If you can't keep track of a gun on your person, you should not have a gun. As for the student's expulsion, I would say this is a foregone conclusion. From my understanding its fairly common that police officers get shot with their own gun, it may even be responsible for the majority of cases of cops receiving gunshot wounds. And to echo whats already been said, JTIII handled the situation perfectly. Hopefully all the recruits and their families know that this was a freak and isolated incident and that most Georgetown students have the ability to drink and not commit felonies |
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Oct 17, 2009 14:35:40 GMT -5
How exactly does one take a handgun from an officer without him or her noticing? Embarrassing, and she should be fired immediately. If you can't keep track of a gun on your person, you should not have a gun. As for the student's expulsion, I would say this is a foregone conclusion. More importantly, how does someone like this even GET INTO GU?  With all of the outstanding applicants that are turned away?? Not trying to cast aspersions on the Admissions staff (chime in here, Jack) but just wondering how a clown like this slips through the screening process... |
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Post by jgalt on Oct 17, 2009 14:54:46 GMT -5
How exactly does one take a handgun from an officer without him or her noticing? Embarrassing, and she should be fired immediately. If you can't keep track of a gun on your person, you should not have a gun. As for the student's expulsion, I would say this is a foregone conclusion. This seems to be the prevailing question around campus. If i had to guess i would say that they were in a crowd somewhere and he just grabbed it and she didnt feel it because of the people. Same idea when you get pick pocketted in a crowd. Im sure she noticed pretty quickly too. |
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With all of the outstanding applicants that are turned away?? Not trying to cast aspersions on the Admissions staff (chime in here, Jack) but just wondering how a clown like this slips through the screening process...