Boz
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Post by Boz on Oct 14, 2009 18:08:15 GMT -5
I think tax cuts are completely different than any of the other things you mentioned.
We don't "earn" tax cuts. We "earn" our money, individuals and businesses alike. The government takes some of it as part of our social contract.
Conservatives argue that people and business deserve to have as little of that money taken as possible.
The rest of these things...awards, nominations and such, well yes, I do think there is a certain value in a debate about what constitutes earning those things. But I don't really feel like getting into it now.
Having said that, I'll agree with Pat Buchanan on one thing, for the moment. The fact that neither Ronald Reagan nor Pope John Paul II was ever awarded a Nobel Prize makes the committee far more of a joke than giving the award prematurely to Barack Obama.
Oh, and happy belated birthday to Maggie Thatcher!!! She and Reagan should have gotten the award together.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Oct 14, 2009 18:16:48 GMT -5
See your point on the tax cut issue. My only reason for including it is that so much of the tax cut debate includes the "give me my money back" idea as if the money that the government had taken through taxes was taken unjustly from the people who had rightfully earned it. As such, I think the argument is that a tax cut is designed to restore what had been earned but for the actions of the government. The distinction between earning money and earning a tax cut in that sense, I don't think, is too significant in the argument.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 15, 2009 16:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by Bando on Oct 15, 2009 17:18:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I call bull. They try to explain away Wilson and Roosevelt by saying that they earned it for past actions, but that doesn't explain away that they still received the prize in office. Just to get a jump on things, what's the (p)outrage of the week for next week?
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Post by Boz on Oct 15, 2009 18:00:52 GMT -5
Just to get a jump on things, what's the (p)outrage of the week for next week? (P)outrage? - Carol Browner or Cass Sunstein Outrage? - How Congress is treating America like the cop in drag on last night's episode of South Park.
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Post by TC on Oct 15, 2009 18:15:39 GMT -5
Just to get a jump on things, what's the (p)outrage of the week for next week? Islamic spies interning for Congress.
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Post by Boz on Oct 16, 2009 9:07:28 GMT -5
Actually, I take my previous post back. The person who will be in the crosshairs next is Anita Dunn. Foolishly taking on a news organization, particularly one as powerful as Fox, is dumb enough. Declaring Chairman Mao as one of your two favorite philosophers (along with Mother Theresa) and one who you turn to more than anyone else is the sort of thing that gets you re-assigned somewhere....like the steam pipe trunk distribution room.
Of course, now she says she was "joking." Really.
The Kinsleyan gaffe personified.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Oct 16, 2009 9:23:25 GMT -5
Actually, I take my previous post back. The person who will be in the crosshairs next is Anita Dunn. Foolishly taking on a news organization, particularly one as powerful as Fox, is dumb enough. Declaring Chairman Mao as one of your two favorite philosophers (along with Mother Theresa) and one who you turn to more than anyone else is the sort of thing that gets you re-assigned somewhere....like the steam pipe trunk distribution room. Of course, now she says she was "joking." Really. The Kinsleyan gaffe personified. Wait wait, don't tell me - she also owns numerous items of designer apparel bearing Che's noble visage This woman may be silly and/or trite, but I doubt her comments are representative of anything as deeply felt as say Thomas Friedman's admiration for the Chinese Communist system. I think she was most likely just trying to strike a chord with the cool kids of Montgomery County. Apparently, striking a revolutionary pose is cool this year.
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Post by Boz on Nov 20, 2009 18:58:29 GMT -5
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