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Post by hifigator on Dec 8, 2009 16:26:24 GMT -5
We also set a rule that you agreed to where if you talk about a team using "we" you'd be banned-which again you've agreed to do several times and how's that worked out Cheech? I guess that makes you Tommy Chong. In any case, no, I never agreed to that. My point was always that "we" should apply if it is definitively defined in your character. If someone meets you and one of the first qualities/characteristics he or she might use in describing you to others ... as in "oh, you mean HiFi, the big Gator fan" then it is ok. Personally, I would more loosely word it as if it is a part of your being that will never change, then it can apply. I am and will forever be a Gator. All of that being said, the "consensus" opinion that the board came up with was if you actually played for the team in question or are a graduate of the institution. As an alum, then "we" qualifies. So even by that criteria, I qualify as a "Gator!"
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Post by RDF on Dec 8, 2009 17:06:50 GMT -5
The "HT" is for HOYA TALK--not High Times. You calling me "Chong" as your comeback shows just how hurt you are about the Gators loss. This is classic--your feelings are hurt and the weak rebuttals are sad--not quite as sad as the Gators performance Saturday--but truly sad. May Baby Tebow embrace you and heal your wounds/feelings.
As for your "consensus" of the board--didn't realize 1 person (you) is a consensus.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 8, 2009 17:21:15 GMT -5
The "HT" is for HOYA TALK--not High Times. You calling me "Chong" as your comeback shows just how hurt you are about the Gators loss. This is classic--your feelings are hurt and the weak rebuttals are sad--not quite as sad as the Gators performance Saturday--but truly sad. May Baby Tebow embrace you and heal your wounds/feelings. As for your "consensus" of the board--didn't realize 1 person (you) is a consensus. 1. You called me "Cheech." The only interpretation I know of that is from Cheech and Chong. Thus if I'm Cheech and don't know it, then you must be Chong and don't know it. I hate to have to explain such trivially obvious observations to you. I feel sorry for you. 2. We certainly didn't play a good game at all. The worst part -- or perhaps the most telling part -- is that I had a hard time listing many players that had good games. Tebow actually had a pretty good game, although the one pick in the endzone could easily have been crucial. Still, in watching the Sunshine replay, what jumped out at me was how many passes were right on target, but not caught. In addition to the obvious 3 or 4 passes that we dropped, there were at least as many that were thrown into really tight coverage, but got all the way through to the receivers' hands. I don't want to beat a dead horse on this, but in watching the replay, Tebow played even better than I originally thought. He did, however, miss seeing at least 3 open receivers downfield. 'nuff on that ... 3. Lastly, I don't have the patience to go find the thread right now, but I will at some point. And no, it wasn't me who came up with the "consensus." It was discussed at length and when it had all shaken out, and after different people had said their piece, the verdict was reached that if you played for the team or graduated from the institution, then "we" was appropriate. So I guess I would have to respond in kind by pointing out that I don't think you make a consensus either. Nuff on that as well ...
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 8, 2009 17:56:36 GMT -5
The "HT" is for HOYA TALK--not High Times. You calling me "Chong" as your comeback shows just how hurt you are about the Gators loss. This is classic--your feelings are hurt and the weak rebuttals are sad--not quite as sad as the Gators performance Saturday--but truly sad. May Baby Tebow embrace you and heal your wounds/feelings. As for your "consensus" of the board--didn't realize 1 person (you) is a consensus. 1. You called me "Cheech." The only interpretation I know of that is from Cheech and Chong. Thus if I'm Cheech and don't know it, then you must be Chong and don't know it. I hate to have to explain such trivially obvious observations to you. I feel sorry for you. 2. We certainly didn't play a good game at all. The worst part -- or perhaps the most telling part -- is that I had a hard time listing many players that had good games. Tebow actually had a pretty good game, although the one pick in the endzone could easily have been crucial. Still, in watching the Sunshine replay, what jumped out at me was how many passes were right on target, but not caught. In addition to the obvious 3 or 4 passes that we dropped, there were at least as many that were thrown into really tight coverage, but got all the way through to the receivers' hands. I don't want to beat a dead horse on this, but in watching the replay, Tebow played even better than I originally thought. He did, however, miss seeing at least 3 open receivers downfield. 'nuff on that ... 3. Lastly, I don't have the patience to go find the thread right now, but I will at some point. And no, it wasn't me who came up with the "consensus." It was discussed at length and when it had all shaken out, and after different people had said their piece, the verdict was reached that if you played for the team or graduated from the institution, then "we" was appropriate. So I guess I would have to respond in kind by pointing out that I don't think you make a consensus either. Nuff on that as well ... TE-Bow's [still] Cry-ING clap clap clapclapclap
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Post by hifigator on Dec 9, 2009 11:09:50 GMT -5
Tbird wrote:
TE-Bow's [still] Cry-ING clap clap clapclapclap
I must say, you certainly add quite a lot to the conversation.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 9, 2009 12:43:58 GMT -5
Tbird wrote: TE-Bow's [still] Cry-ING clap clap clapclapclap I must say, you certainly add quite a lot to the conversation. Thank you for the compliment. Which reminds me: TE-Bow's [still] Cry-ING clap clap clapclapclap
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 9, 2009 21:28:24 GMT -5
Piling on hifi! Good times!
You should take it as a backhanded compliment, hifi (except any comments from Brasky, as I think he would legitimately like to see you get run over by a car). This probably wouldn't have happened if you hadn't persisted in hitting us with incessant Florida-related posts, week in and week out.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Dec 10, 2009 8:37:34 GMT -5
adam morrison thinks tebow looked like a girl crying.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 10, 2009 12:20:57 GMT -5
adam morrison thinks tebow looked like a girl crying. That's not right. That's just not right. At the risk of lending creedence to this discussion, there is a bit of a difference. Morrison was balling not only while the game was still going on, but very much in doubt. In hoops, one turnover and then a bucket and you're talking about a different picture entirely. Unfortunately, Tebow and the Gators weren't in that situation.
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Post by RDF on Dec 10, 2009 12:34:24 GMT -5
adam morrison thinks tebow looked like a girl crying. That's not right. That's just not right. At the risk of lending creedence to this discussion, there is a bit of a difference. Morrison was balling not only while the game was still going on, but very much in doubt. In hoops, one turnover and then a bucket and you're talking about a different picture entirely. Unfortunately, Tebow and the Gators weren't in that situation. Morrison was a punk for quitting. Tebow is a moron for crying over getting his ass handed to him. His "career" isn't over--he's got the destruction of Cincinnati and then off to the SR Bowl to find out if he can take a snap from under center and if he can read man to man defense that happen in SR Bowl. For a guy who talks up his religious beliefs--he should realize that life has far more meaning then winning/losing in a football game. That is if you believe that crap. Personally I think he was far more upset his made for TV "motivational speech" was a laughable joke as his teammates folded and he stunk. For all of the grief that we gave Tyler Hansbrough--he is far superior in his sport then Tebow is at his. Just speaking of individual talent. I dont' think Hansbrough is one of the greatest players ever but he's far more talented then Tebow is in his sport.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 10, 2009 12:47:33 GMT -5
That's not right. That's just not right. At the risk of lending creedence to this discussion, there is a bit of a difference. Morrison was balling not only while the game was still going on, but very much in doubt. In hoops, one turnover and then a bucket and you're talking about a different picture entirely. Unfortunately, Tebow and the Gators weren't in that situation. Morrison was a punk for quitting. Tebow is a moron for crying over getting his ass handed to him. His "career" isn't over--he's got the destruction of Cincinnati and then off to the SR Bowl to find out if he can take a snap from under center and if he can read man to man defense that happen in SR Bowl. For a guy who talks up his religious beliefs--he should realize that life has far more meaning then winning/losing in a football game. That is if you believe that crap. Personally I think he was far more upset his made for TV "motivational speech" was a laughable joke as his teammates folded and he stunk. For all of the grief that we gave Tyler Hansbrough--he is far superior in his sport then Tebow is at his. Just speaking of individual talent. I dont' think Hansbrough is one of the greatest players ever but he's far more talented then Tebow is in his sport. I still just don't get it. I want someone on my team who cares. I want someone who has such passion that when you lose out as we did Saturday -- SEC Championship, National Championship, perfect season -- that there's no way to NOT have that passion and emotion show. That tells me a lot more than the jumping around and high fiving when you win does. Again, whining is bad. Crying is almost good.
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Post by RDF on Dec 10, 2009 15:02:12 GMT -5
Morrison was a punk for quitting. Tebow is a moron for crying over getting his ass handed to him. His "career" isn't over--he's got the destruction of Cincinnati and then off to the SR Bowl to find out if he can take a snap from under center and if he can read man to man defense that happen in SR Bowl. For a guy who talks up his religious beliefs--he should realize that life has far more meaning then winning/losing in a football game. That is if you believe that crap. Personally I think he was far more upset his made for TV "motivational speech" was a laughable joke as his teammates folded and he stunk. For all of the grief that we gave Tyler Hansbrough--he is far superior in his sport then Tebow is at his. Just speaking of individual talent. I dont' think Hansbrough is one of the greatest players ever but he's far more talented then Tebow is in his sport. I still just don't get it. I want someone on my team who cares. I want someone who has such passion that when you lose out as we did Saturday -- SEC Championship, National Championship, perfect season -- that there's no way to NOT have that passion and emotion show. That tells me a lot more than the jumping around and high fiving when you win does. Again, whining is bad. Crying is almost good. So the kids who didn't cry "don't care"? You know there are a lot of good players on Florida's team who don't need to have their helmets off yelling at their teammates to ACT like they are leading. Leadership is about making plays and doing your job--not crying, not yelling at teammates so the cameras pick it up, and not making some hokey speech about "nobody will play harder...." when fact is---Florida's defense was responsbile for the Championship--not Tebow. Never has been more made of a guy who is a MYTH. He's not even the best player this decade from Florida (My nod goes to Harvin) and he's certainly not nearly capable of being an "All Time Player". Again--this DECADE---Tebow has more losses as a starting QB then Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart, and Vince Young COMBINED. All played on talented teams equal or better then Tebow, so all can be judged by same criteria. All won at least 1 National Title as a Starting QB--2 if you count Leinart's split title in '03, and only Leinart won a Heisman Trophy due to a terrible selection (Crouch) and Carson Palmer having a wonderful season-then Bush in '05 although Young proved to be best player that season. The talk of him being "Best player in CFB history" and debates are a joke. Good player and key cog on championship teams--but far from one of the best to ever play. Last time I checked--I never saw Dorsey, Leinart, and Young crying after their losses and they all lost heartbreakers in their careers 2 being last play National Title games but I guess they didn't "care".
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Post by hifigator on Dec 10, 2009 15:23:31 GMT -5
I still just don't get it. I want someone on my team who cares. I want someone who has such passion that when you lose out as we did Saturday -- SEC Championship, National Championship, perfect season -- that there's no way to NOT have that passion and emotion show. That tells me a lot more than the jumping around and high fiving when you win does. Again, whining is bad. Crying is almost good. So the kids who didn't cry "don't care"? You know there are a lot of good players on Florida's team who don't need to have their helmets off yelling at their teammates to ACT like they are leading. Leadership is about making plays and doing your job--not crying, not yelling at teammates so the cameras pick it up, and not making some hokey speech about "nobody will play harder...." when fact is---Florida's defense was responsbile for the Championship--not Tebow. Never has been more made of a guy who is a MYTH. He's not even the best player this decade from Florida (My nod goes to Harvin) and he's certainly not nearly capable of being an "All Time Player". Again--this DECADE---Tebow has more losses as a starting QB then Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart, and Vince Young COMBINED. All played on talented teams equal or better then Tebow, so all can be judged by same criteria. All won at least 1 National Title as a Starting QB--2 if you count Leinart's split title in '03, and only Leinart won a Heisman Trophy due to a terrible selection (Crouch) and Carson Palmer having a wonderful season-then Bush in '05 although Young proved to be best player that season. The talk of him being "Best player in CFB history" and debates are a joke. Good player and key cog on championship teams--but far from one of the best to ever play. Last time I checked--I never saw Dorsey, Leinart, and Young crying after their losses and they all lost heartbreakers in their careers 2 being last play National Title games but I guess they didn't "care". You're either missing my point, or just being obstinate. (My guess is a little of both.) In any case, I'm not suggesting that you must have such outbursts of emotion, but rather defending them if you do. I didn't start this "crying" debate. Others did. I just responded by pointing out that it (crying) doesn't give some indication of weakness or artificiality. When I said that I want a player who feels that strongly about the game and about winning, that didn't mean that those who don't express emotions as openly don't feel as strongly. But there are those who are just "going to work." By that, I mean that there are those who are just honing their skills for the game on Sunday. Winning at the college level doesn't really matter to such individuals. We all have some of those characters on our teams. Again, my main point is that I just don't get all the animosity towards Tim and specifically, I don't understand lambasting him for showing his emotions -- in vicotory or defeat.
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Post by FormerHoya on Dec 10, 2009 16:47:34 GMT -5
I think NDNation.com could use a vial of Tebow's tears, they are a panacea, right?
Server keeps crashing due to overloading as it appears Kelly will be announced as coach today.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 10, 2009 17:17:11 GMT -5
Let's hope ND is going through this again 3 or 4 years from now and every 3-4 years in perpetuity.
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Post by FormerHoya on Dec 10, 2009 17:38:29 GMT -5
White smoke from the Dome. Brian Kelly is coach.
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Post by Jack on Dec 10, 2009 17:38:43 GMT -5
Good to see they went with a defensive guy this time. At least he's got a good name.
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Post by The Stig on Dec 10, 2009 18:57:57 GMT -5
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Post by jgalt on Dec 10, 2009 19:00:35 GMT -5
Im not the only one who thinks it is pretty crappy for a coach to ditch the team that made him "famous" just before a bowl game right? First rich rod now kelly. I hope Cincy dominates in their bowl game and Kelly wins two games next year. I have no problem with him leaving for more money and better resources, but why not wait until februrary or late january? ND has a part in this too. I understand that recruiting season is coming up in february, but still, have a little class.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 10, 2009 19:04:30 GMT -5
Kelly did this when he jumped to Cincy as well.
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