Air Jordan
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Post by Air Jordan on Feb 13, 2005 0:13:42 GMT -5
On the Magic, fellas let me tell you today was good to be a Hoya all around. AI was unreal today when I saw him score 29 in the 1st quarter I had to watch the whole game. He hit 24 free throws, like I said nice night to be a Hoya all around.
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Feb 13, 2005 0:17:55 GMT -5
Yeah, incredible game for him. Nice to see things going well in the Hoya World.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 13, 2005 0:32:49 GMT -5
As Megafan has already mentioned, Sweets went for a career high (Pro) of 19 last night, so it has been a good 24 hours to be a Hoya fan.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Feb 13, 2005 1:43:44 GMT -5
ai...i love you!!! seriously though i watched most of this game tonight and he was taking the ball strong to the rack...yeah baby
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 13, 2005 7:53:17 GMT -5
allen just keeps getting better and better. the assist numbers are up. he deserves mention as the mvp, but i think shaq has won it already.
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Feb 13, 2005 10:04:23 GMT -5
huge game. Somehow he is managing to be way in the lead in the scoring race and be picking up plenty of assists to people like kyle korver and willie green(two of my fav surprises/guys in the nba at this point)
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Feb 13, 2005 11:41:01 GMT -5
I don't think Allen has really improved. He is just now given free reign to play his game. He hasn't had that since his days at G'town. Having him running around screens and playing 2-guard was not were Allen is best-suited. He is playing his natural position, with the ball in his hands breaking down defenses.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 13, 2005 19:52:23 GMT -5
allen has improved. when he first came into the league he shot with reckless abandon. now he takes what the defense gives him. with maturity comes improvement.
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Feb 13, 2005 19:59:35 GMT -5
Allen may have improved in YOUR eyes. People always talk about how mature and smarter somebody is when they see them have success, when they weren't paying attention in the first place. I remember JT2 said,"well, I want to know how dumb and immature Allen was when he led the team to the NBA finals" The man is great, and has always been great. He is allowed to play his game instead of being restricted.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 13, 2005 20:09:45 GMT -5
Did AI tie Sleepy for the most points scored by a Hoya in pros in a single quarter?  |
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 15, 2005 0:25:19 GMT -5
I don't think Allen has really improved. He is just now given free reign to play his game. He hasn't had that since his days at G'town. Having him running around screens and playing 2-guard was not were Allen is best-suited. He is playing his natural position, with the ball in his hands breaking down defenses. This post really surprised me. Allen hasn't improved?  He is "just now being given free rein to play his game"? You mean when he won two NBA scoring titles, an MVP award and took his team almost single handedly to the NBA finals he wasn't playing his game? His comments about how much he learned from Larrry Brown are false? He really didn't improve? And even when he was a two for the Sixers, he still had the ball in his hands more than any other 2G in the league and was constantly driving -- breaking down defenses. |
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 15, 2005 0:35:51 GMT -5
speaking of AI-he dropped 31 points in the first half tonight against the Knicks. Just a ridiculous half. He cooled off in the 2nd half though, as he only scored 7 to finish with 38 points. He had a nifty pass out of the double team to a cutter for the game winning layup though.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 15, 2005 0:41:13 GMT -5
speaking of AI-he dropped 31 points in the first half tonight against the Knicks. Just a ridiculous half. He cooled off in the 2nd half though, as he only scored 7 to finish with 38 points. He had a nifty pass out of the double team to a cutter for the game winning layup though. I saw that pass... very nice. Head's up. Killed the Knicks. |
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Feb 15, 2005 1:04:43 GMT -5
Then the Knicks also killed themselves when Nazr Mohammed couldn't convert on that perfect pass for a little 2 foot game winner.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 15, 2005 1:08:49 GMT -5
Then the Knicks also killed themselves when Nazr Mohammed couldn't convert I think I see their mistake. They obviously drew up the play for the wrong forward... |
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Post by Fan Of The Game on Feb 15, 2005 1:30:05 GMT -5
Agreed. You gotta get Jerome in there in that situation.
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Feb 15, 2005 9:06:12 GMT -5
AI for MVP. The guy is the best player in the league.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Feb 15, 2005 13:05:06 GMT -5
Way, I agree completely and can't believe how more people don't notice that a 5'11 man is carrying a team of marginal talent (being nice in some respect referring to these guys as marginal) to a .500 record. He's the only FRANCHISE player I know that is under 6'0 tall and can carry a team and dominate a game on a consistent basis. If he had the opportunity to play with some of the teammates guys like Marbury and Francis have, it would be interesting to see how things would be.
Well we might get our wish. Screamin' Stephen A. Smith had a very interesting article on Iverson's opinions about the Sixers Organization and how they don't care about winning. I only hope it escalates to the point that he gets traded as I hate Billy King and the Sixers Brass for the way they run a team. It's pathetic and amateur. Only hope that Iverson is gone to anywhere where he can show his talents and have an opportunity to compete for a Championship--afterall he's only played on 1 team with that capability and he carried them to the Finals.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 15, 2005 13:09:18 GMT -5
The comparison to Nash on sportscenter was ridiculous. They were arguing as to who was the better MVP candidate. Basically, after AI's obvious point advantage, Nash had 11 apg to AI's 7.6apg and two less TO pg...but at no point did they mention DEFENSE. I mean, I like Nash as much as the next guy, but if I'm a PG in the NBA and I'm matching up against Nash I'll have a little skip in my step that morning. He plays 0 defense. None. Doesn't even try. Never has.
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HarbinHoya
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Post by HarbinHoya on Feb 15, 2005 13:15:49 GMT -5
Ok, I need some help here and from the title of this thread I think a lot of people might disagree with me here, but I am still trying to get some numbers.
I am in an argument with some friends over who is better both as a Hoya and then in the NBA
Patrick Ewing vs Allen Iverson.
Now I know they play different positions, but just numbers wise I was wondering what people thought.
I think hands down Ewing had the biggest impact of any player at Gtown and then he is one of the 50 Greatest NBA Players.
I think Ewing meant as much to the knicks as Iverson has to Philly throughout his time there and I also think that Iversons stats are overrated as he shoots so many shots.
Anyway if someone has some thoughts on this, please let me know.
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He is "just now being given free rein to play his game"? You mean when he won two NBA scoring titles, an MVP award and took his team almost single handedly to the NBA finals he wasn't playing his game? 