MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 27, 2009 9:04:53 GMT -5
In two years the team will probably be out of Memphis or would have folded altogether. Enjoy that squad while you can.
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Post by RDF on Jun 27, 2009 11:13:11 GMT -5
As most of you know, I am really not an "NBA guy," but I have to admit that I pretty much enjoyed the draft coverage last night. Now I know there wasn't a lot of competitive shows on against it, but still. I enjoyed the draft far more than the NFL drafts. I'm sure the shorter time between picks has a lot to do with it, but I did find it an enjoyable way to spend an evening. I totally agree on Blair. I have already heard several people point out that Blair totally outplayed Thabeet head to head, not once, but twice. I'm not saying he's the better player, but for Thabeet to be the #2 and for Blair to drop down into the second round is perplexing. Twins are trying to corner the market on guards. They must know something. Let's get in on it. You don't base the value of a player in the NBA on what he did in 1/2 games. If that is case--why didn't the Knicks take Ed Pickney over Patrick Ewing? Thabeet can impact the game without the ball and on defensive end of the court. He's mobile and he's 7'2--you can't teach that. Blair's a player I think will be a nice player--and he can go get the ball on glass. My question--can he defend out in space? Can he score in NBA on anything other then putbacks? He's a poor ft shooter with limited range, and when you drag him away from hoop--will guys just blow by him to rim? Mistakes can be made--personally I'd love to have Sam Young on my team--he's a winner and got better each year he was at Pitt--and will be a nice role player. He also has potential to be a good defensive player too. It's just embarrassing to me when clowns like Brandon Jennings get selected or the inaccurate comments made about a player's game--like "Tyreke Evans is a great distributor". Evans had a horrendous turnover/assist ratio and people got giddy about a guy who can't shoot scoring against Missouri in an open court track meet on layups. Taking him is why the Kings are fighting to replace the Clippers as worst run franchise in the NBA.
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Post by hifigator on Jun 27, 2009 11:55:12 GMT -5
I'll meet you half way RDF. I thought I was clear enough that I'm not saying that Blair should have been taken ahead of Thabeet. You can't coach size anymore than you can coach speed. Thabeet has a half a foot on Blair and that's not likely to change. Still, from what I saw in quite a lot of BE games, there shouldn't have been 35 picks difference between the two. Using your same type of arguments, the Spurs are a very well run franchise. Their snagging Blair when they did shows their astuteness in my opinion. Also, as much as I dislike Miami, I think that getting Jack McClinton (I know that spelling is off) when they did, later in the second round, was a great pickup. I think that getting Jefferson via trade and then adding Blair and McClinton, the Spurs might have done as well as anyone. That could give them the pieces they need to compete with the likes of the Lakers and Nuggets next season as Duncan's career is beginning to wind down.
As for Evans, I know there are concerns, but the kid is a player. He strikes me as the type of guy who could be anything from a superstar on the right team, to a complete bust and overpaid eventual journeyman who is out of the league in 5 or 6 years. But in the right system, he's got talent. He's got size and speed -- the two things you can't coach. He's also good defensively, althought the word is that's only "when he wants to." What better place to go than the NBA then? And as far as attitude, he's got his critics, but he did move over to point to help the team, even though at the time no one thought it was in his best interests. I agree with you though, in that he's certainly got some questions, and you generally look to avoid questions when you have the third pick.
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Post by RDF on Jun 27, 2009 12:54:52 GMT -5
Evans didn't move to the point to help the team--he was put there because Calipari knew the only way the guy can do anything is when he has the ball--he can't shoot well enough to play off the ball, and he's a terrible decision maker with the basketball.
Thing is--he played in a terrible league. How did Memphis do when they faced anyone who was good? Their league hid the mediocrity of their team and made some of their players look better then what they are.
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Post by hifigator on Jun 29, 2009 11:33:52 GMT -5
I think that's an even more valid concern. Still, I think the kids got the skills. Obvioulsy he isn't a polished as we would like, but you have to remember in today's game, the kids are a good bit younfger. Rightly or wrongly, a higher emphasis is placed on potential.
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Post by dungeon ball on Jun 29, 2009 13:08:13 GMT -5
I was just looking over the draft results after not really paying attention during the whole process. Just realized that NONE of the Marquette seniors got picked. I wasn't shocked, but somewhat surprised given their success last season. Well, James doesn't surprise me at all, but thought McNeal or Matthews could go in the 2nd.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 30, 2009 8:41:47 GMT -5
I think blair might be really scary next year. Think about it. He creates slights to psych himself up ( he took it as a slight before our game this year that we were going to put a freshman on him. As if we had a choice). Now that he's actually been slighted he's going to play out of his mind.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 30, 2009 9:41:55 GMT -5
I think blair might be really scary next year. Think about it. He creates slights to psych himself up ( he took it as a slight before our game this year that we were going to put a freshman on him. As if we had a choice). Now that he's actually been slighted he's going to play out of his mind. I was one of the biggest proponents of Blair as a draft pick and think he'll be a valuable NBA player. But himself psyching himself up isn't going to keep his shot from being blocked. In other words, effort is important, but he's playing against the really big boys now. He'll be good, but I don't think "really scary" is within Blair's NBA-possible outcomes.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 30, 2009 9:52:34 GMT -5
sorry forgot to put the smiley face at the end. Obviously not going to make a huge difference, I was more just joking at him creating slights through out college.
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Post by bmartin on Jul 5, 2009 14:59:45 GMT -5
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