|
Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 10, 2011 15:33:55 GMT -5
Seems fairly obvious he wants to go straight to the league...can't imagine why he would want to play in high school one more year and THEN go to college and be one and done....makes no sense. He'll be 19 by the 2012 draft? Although I guess without a cba the rules for early entry are up in the air. Why is there discussion about Drummond not going to college? I could be wrong here, although i dont believe i am, but just becaue he goes to prep school does not make him eligible for the draft even if he is 19. Otherwise, I feel like Brandon Jennings would have gone a year earlier after oak hill instead of going to AZ or overseas. Right? So I guess it is 19 AND one year removed from high school. Not age 19 OR one year removed from high school. Also, prep school not counting as being removed from hs.
|
|
|
Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 10, 2011 15:36:32 GMT -5
Under the current rules he'd be eligible to jump strait to the pros after this prep school year. Obviously that could very well change with the new CBA.
|
|
|
Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 10, 2011 15:51:27 GMT -5
I think that is what I am hung up on and disagree with. You are saying that a kid can go to prep school and bypass college altogether and go the draft if he is 19? I dont believe so. If that were the case, it would seem like it would have been done but I cant recall any precedent where that has happened. If it has happened before and i am forgetting the instance do point it out.
But I specifically recall Brandon Jennings trying that and being told he would have to go to college or abroad.
|
|
alleninxis
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,216
|
Post by alleninxis on Aug 10, 2011 15:53:41 GMT -5
He graduated from high-school this year.
this coming year will be a post-grad year. So he'll be 1 year removed from High School, Jennings was not a year removed when he had to go to Europe.
Under the past CBA, he (Drummond) would/will be eligible for the draft in June.
|
|
|
Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 10, 2011 16:04:47 GMT -5
Gotcha. The graduation is the distinction.
Although I am still not sure if the NBA considers prep school being removed from hs. If so, it would seem a prep would much rather go this route and dominate competition and get drafted based on what he did against hs competition rather than what he does against pros or collegiate athletes. If this loophole exists I am shocked more high schoolers havent taken advantage of it...
Thanks for the info tho. Very interesting.
|
|
hoyarooter
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,224
|
Post by hoyarooter on Aug 10, 2011 20:53:26 GMT -5
Agree with the Spurs' point guard.
I honestly don't expect to see Drummond matriculating at GU, but his keeping us on his list certainly isn't a bad thing.
OTOH, I wouldn't put off Upshaw or Parker if they express interest in the hope of getting Drummond.
|
|
gahoya
Silver Hoya (over 500 posts)
Posts: 621
|
Post by gahoya on Aug 10, 2011 21:12:20 GMT -5
Agree with the Spurs' point guard. I honestly don't expect to see Drummond matriculating at GU, but his keeping us on his list certainly isn't a bad thing. OTOH, I wouldn't put off Upshaw or Parker if they express interest in the hope of getting Drummond. I'm sure the staff wouldn't do that, and most likely they are sure that their is like a 95% chance that they don't land him. Parker's good enough to where he could sign any time he wanted to.
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 11, 2011 13:49:16 GMT -5
|
|
KirbyKeger
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,106
|
Post by KirbyKeger on Aug 11, 2011 14:02:37 GMT -5
The only way he doesn't go pro is if the new CBA backfires on him.
|
|
idhoya
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,177
|
Post by idhoya on Aug 11, 2011 14:57:13 GMT -5
casue he don't wanna go to college
|
|
jgalt
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,380
|
Post by jgalt on Aug 11, 2011 15:30:49 GMT -5
Id is right, he doesnt want to. And if he did want to, he would go to UCONN. Now, what he should do is a totally different thing. I agree with this article: www.ballinisahabit.net/2011/08/andre-drummond-to-make-decision-today.html that he SHOULD go to college because of the marketing. This years draft will be overloaded with talent- Sullinger, Barnes, etc. Even if he goes top 5 he wont have the same name recognition as the current Colege players, and even other HS kids. Austin Rivers has way more name recognition even now, being at Duke will only help that. For Drummond to stand out he needs to go to school for a year just to market himself (or to find out he isnt as good as he thinks, just better than who he has faced, i.e. not NBA bodies).
|
|
|
Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 11, 2011 15:34:06 GMT -5
this Drummond situation is definitely interesting. I talked to a buddy who is an agent and he says that although the rules of the old cba dont explicitly prohibit this move, it also does not say it is ok. He says it gets gray when u talk about prep schools. It would be a case of first impression for the league to rule on, assuming the rule is not changed in the new cba. But it is not a slam dunk he would be eligible for the draft. The agent thinks it will backfire because it is a loophole the league has no interest in seeing players use.
He also said it is pretty clear this guy wants to avoid potentially being exposed by going to college. Since Drummond has a diploma, why stay in hs? Unless his grades are that bad, but he graduated so he at least has passing grades. He has to know he will improve much more working out against men in college than playing against boys in hs right?
|
|
RDF
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 8,835
|
Post by RDF on Aug 11, 2011 16:48:04 GMT -5
Interesting thing about upcoming CBA--Rutgers coach Mike Rice tweeted today about the word being NBA wants to do what NFL does--3 years out of HS prior to entering the Draft.
Now whether that means Drummond would consider Georgetown more seriously or not--it plays a factor in recruiting in the future no matter what if they push for that.
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 11, 2011 18:15:39 GMT -5
I'd be very surprised if they end up requiring players to be 3 years out of high school before being draft eligible. It might just be bargaining strategy in eventually getting to a 2 year rule.
|
|
EasyEd
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 7,272
|
Post by EasyEd on Aug 11, 2011 18:28:09 GMT -5
Somebody would take NBA to court.
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,427
|
Post by MCIGuy on Aug 11, 2011 19:02:53 GMT -5
Somebody would take NBA to court. And with a decent lawyer the NBA would win. The NBA can make its own rules and guidelines. As long as they are reasonable they should hold up in court. After all it is not a right of anyone to play in the NBA. And last time I checked the rich and powerful seem to get their way in this country. A lot.
|
|
EasyEd
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 7,272
|
Post by EasyEd on Aug 11, 2011 19:14:28 GMT -5
Somebody would take NBA to court. And with a decent lawyer the NBA would win. The NBA can make its own rules and guidelines. As long as they are reasonable they should hold up in court. After all it is not a right of anyone to play in the NBA. And last time I checked the rich and powerful seem to get their way in this country. A lot. Tell that to Curt Flood.
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,427
|
Post by MCIGuy on Aug 11, 2011 19:30:27 GMT -5
And with a decent lawyer the NBA would win. The NBA can make its own rules and guidelines. As long as they are reasonable they should hold up in court. After all it is not a right of anyone to play in the NBA. And last time I checked the rich and powerful seem to get their way in this country. A lot. Tell that to Curt Flood. You might as well be talking about 1000 years ago. Let's try sticking with modern developments.
|
|
hoyarooter
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,224
|
Post by hoyarooter on Aug 11, 2011 20:38:39 GMT -5
I agree with gtowndynasty - perhaps Drummond's advisors figure he is a sure top 5 pick if he doesn't go to college, but could drop if he does. If that's true, though, it doesn't show a lot of faith in his ability. I doubt that he's Kwame Brown II.
|
|
EasyEd
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 7,272
|
Post by EasyEd on Aug 12, 2011 18:55:53 GMT -5
You might as well be talking about 1000 years ago. Let's try sticking with modern developments. Here's the scenario: kid living in subsidized housing with his single mother and two of his siblings. Family badly needs money and kid is a 5-star BB player. ACLU takes his case to court as a hardship saying NBA is violating his right to work in his profession. Citing the Constitution giving the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce, including the commerce of the NBA, the ACLU makes its case. Might even cite the 1000 year old Curt Flood case as a precedent. Kid wins case. Possible?
|
|