Past Hoyas in the New Offense

[jahidihoya]

We all know that JTIII has been a miracle worker in executing the new "Princeton"-style offense (by the way, when do we call it the "Georgetown"-style offense).

My question. How do you think former Hoyas would have done in this system? I thought about it a bit and I think I have two guys that would have exploded within this set and two guys that would have imploded and failed.

Successful Under JTIII:
Othella Harrington
Jerry Nichols (that guy LOVED shooting 3's)

Failures Under JTIII:
Victor Page (he never touched a ball that he did not eventually shoot)
Don Reid (I loved his game, but "finesse" is not something that quickly comes to mind when describing it)

[SaxaCD]

David Wingate had size and a real quick first step, along with a very good midrange game, so I think he would have been able to get backdoor baskets galore.

[TrueHoyaBlue]

I think for the time being, the PrinceTown offense is the most appropriate moniker, but within a year or two, there will be enough JTIII wrinkles that it will stand on it's own as the Georgetown offense.

[SFHoya99]

Four words: Anthony. Perry. All. American.

Okay, maybe not that far, but much better.

[KHoyaNYC]

Lee Scruggs? that would have been fun to watch.

[yogging]

kevin millen

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Since he never hit anything deeper than a lay-up, Daymond Jackson would have been a perfect back-door cut guy....

[DanMcQ]

Cam said:

Since he never hit anything deeper than a lay-up, Daymond Jackson would have been a perfect back-door cut guy....

...did he ever actually hit a layup?

[3GenerationHoya]

I think a guy like Gerald Riley would benefit from the discipline of playing in a system like the PrinceTown. I would think he could do better than the sub-40% clip he shot last year in the Big East. Plus, he was pretty ugly off the dribble, and IMO would have been better suited to attack the basket as an off-the-ball cutter. Additionally, with our long possessions, the other team would have the ball less - meaning he would pick up his fifth reach-in foul slightly later in the game.

[kghoya]

KHoyaNYC said:

Lee Scruggs? that would have been fun to watch.

he would fit in great just like bowman does when he flashes at the foul line against the zone

[Deleted]

Ah, the burning question......ask FreeNachos. He'll know the answer.

The greatest Daymond Jackson stat is that he hit 1 (count 'em) 1 three pointer in four years. 6'4" guard, played almost every game, made 236-515 from the field lifetime (Thanks, DFW), and only 1 three pointer. Remarkable.

[HeartAttackHoya]

where is gerald riley playing? braswell is tearing up the NBDL. How about Perry? Suggs? I know he was in the NBDL as well but not anymore..

[SFHoya99]

"Is Scruggs playing abroad in Milan/Does anyobody know what team he's playing on?"

[KHoyaNYC]

Suggs is with the Cleveland Browns.

Unless Scruggs is in Europe, I don't think he is playing anymore. Haven't seen anything.

[3GenerationHoya]

According to Eurobasket.com,
Riley played in France for a while, but is now with the Philly Colonials of the ABA.
I couldnt find Scruggs or Perry on there.

[TBird41]

SFHoya99 said:

"Is Scruggs playing abroad in Milan/Does anyobody know what team he's playing on?"

I thought that line was "lee Scruggs, Brada Milan / does anybody know what team he's playing on"

Then again, I didn't recognize half the names in the song anyway. And I know, the words were posted, but I was too excited about the listening to the song to actually READ them ;D

[HoyaFanNY]

of the obvious answers, i think reggie would be dominant in this system. players like wingate and mj would also. great players like that can thrive in any system.

i really think a player like duane spencer, who was lost in the physical style of JT, would have been great in this system. i realize he never really turned into a player even at lsu, but his talent would have meshed well with this offense IMO.

[TBird41]

I think that AI wouldn't fit well into this system (it would be a horrible system for his style of play) That's based on watching him play in the NBA, where it's his job to put up any shot he can. I never saw him play college though, so I might be wrong about his college game.

[3GenerationHoya]

Whether AI and Victor Page could play in the PrinceTown offense depends on whether they choose to buy into the system. They were both extremely gifted athletes with quick first steps, and who could knock down open jumpers from time to time.

When they played for gtown, they were expected to take every shot they could get. I remember watching Hoya games on tv the year after Iverson left and JT II would send Page around triple screens to get him open.

If either of them decided to play in this system and play the way that JT III would want them to, I'm pretty sure they could do alright for themselves. They could probably get plenty of open looks and lanes to drive to the basket if they were patient with the offense.

They did what JT II asked of them - there should be little doubt that they would do whatever JT III wanted as well. What this offense has shown - first at Princeton and now here - is that a wide range of players can thrive if they simply do what is expected of them.

[SirSaxa]

By the way, I don't see any point in worry about the offense being referred to as "Princeton". Calling it PrinceTown is a joke, and ineffective. It won't survive outside this board. It's like saying a team on the East Coast that adopts the West Coast offense should change it's name. to what, the east/west coast?

T3 is a proud graduate of Princeton and they have an incredible hoops tradition thanks to Pete Carril, the "other" Hall of Fame coach who influenced T3.

There is no shame in acknowledging the basis of this offense comes from Princeton. NBA teams that use it also manage to acknowledge it.

It is our DEFENSE that has historic roots at the Hilltop. our Hoyas have, of late, been playing a Princeton offense and a Georgetown defense. What could be better?