typical georgetown loss

[Eurostar]

decent first half.... check

big opponents run out of halftime.... check
no plays out of timeouts.... check
opponents beat you repeatedly out of timeouts.... check
dajuan/freeman losing their men constantly on defense.... check
turnovers down the stretch.... check
monroe getting stripped down low.... check
long out of sync 3s down the stretch.... check

SEE YOU GUYS NEXT YEAR
thank god this horrific year is over

[dchoyafan]

lets add the "close game w/4 minutes left = guaranteed loss" factor as well. It is so damn predictable it hurts. This team is utterly unlike the amazingly clutch teams of our last few years.

Well, lets hope it is just because we are young and that noone transfers. We can hope..

[tjm62]

or "being Editeding terrible.... check"

[momzer]

DC: You forgot that "up by 8-10 with 8 minutes left = close game with 4/min left"

[757hoyafan]

Thank you Sapp. I am going to miss the fella play.

I would like to thank the staff & the fellas. I know the guys will fix the issues from this year.

I hope Hollis is ready to help out

[momzer]

The 8 minute to 4 minute mark has been our undoing. I would love someone who has the time to see what our Big East 8:00 minute to 4:00 mark scoring and defense has been. That would clearly show that is when we lose these games. TO city for us, Easy baskets for them and throwing up contested threes when the score gets closer. I would bet my house on it.

[sead43]

forget worrying about transfers/recruits/improving...just get the NCAA to switch to 30 minute games and we'll have that banner in no time...

[austintex]

Season in a nutshell. At least this loss didn't hurt as much as some of the others. Let's hear it for being comfortably numb.

[gtowndynasty]

Unbelievable. Every single close game we played in, we lost all in the same fashion. Wild, funky three pointers. Why do we even go for a three with all the time left on the clock?! We should have went for two, then fouled. THey ended up missing the 1/1, so theoretically we would have been down two with much more than 3 seconds left to launch up a prayer. Hindsight is 20/20, but I always say with that much time left, make it a possession game. We didnt have any timeouts left, but if Im the pg, I do that instead of tossing it around the perimeter 30 feet away from the bucket and launching up an off balanced three.

But hey, at least this one hit the backboard near the rim and didnt end up on the top of the backboard!

[Coast2CoastHoya]

3 pts down with about 2 to play:

2006, 2007, 2008 teams = win by 6
2009 team = lose by 3-7.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuux

[DonkDonk]

Mar 18, 2009 23:54:37 GMT -5 gtowndynasty said:

Unbelievable. Every single close game we played in, we lost all in the same fashion. Wild, funky three pointers. Why do we even go for a three with all the time left on the clock?! We should have went for two, then fouled. THey ended up missing the 1/1, so theoretically we would have been down two with much more than 3 seconds left to launch up a prayer. Hindsight is 20/20, but I always say with that much time left, make it a possession game. We didnt have any timeouts left, but if Im the pg, I do that instead of tossing it around the perimeter 30 feet away from the bucket and launching up an off balanced three.

But hey, at least this one hit the backboard near the rim and didnt end up on the top of the backboard!

...and then to waste 25 seconds out of 35 remaining on the clock before throwing up that ugly brick. In my head I thought they would waste 20-25 seconds before some crappy shot. Which was so stupid because they had 3 fouls to give at that point...ugh whatever.

The disappointing thing to me was that going into last night's game, finishing games had been clearly been our undoing the entire season. Never any well planned / executed plays when we needed it in crunch time...and never any real clock awareness. It just would have been nice if JTIII / players could have shown some recognition of this and come up with something before the NIT that wasn't so predictably disgusting.

[hoopsmccan]

I don't mind the 3 approach, just because we don't have anyone to get us the quick 2. The only person that can penetrate is Wright, but he is not a consistent finisher. Though, even if you decide to take a 3 rather than a quick 2 and foul, that does not preclude you from running a play to try to get someone open. Screens, drive and kick out...something. Once we decide on a 3, we just pass it around the outside until someone decides to launch.

[NCHoya]

Mar 19, 2009 8:16:09 GMT -5 hoopsmccan said:

I don't mind the 3 approach, just because we don't have anyone to get us the quick 2. The only person that can penetrate is Wright, but he is not a consistent finisher. Though, even if you decide to take a 3 rather than a quick 2 and foul, that does not preclude you from running a play to try to get someone open. Screens, drive and kick out...something. Once we decide on a 3, we just pass it around the outside until someone decides to launch.

Bingo.

Who is going to get the quick two? I do not trust any of them to drive and finish. Monroe had a case of the bobbles in the last 10 minutes of the game so he was basically useless at that point, Dejuan is just as likely to lose the ball out of bounds as actually getting to the rim and no other player has the ability to create his own shot (except Austin, but he can only play in the 1st half). CW can, but Baylor's very small but super fast guards took that option off the table all night.

The fact is a wide open three is a good shot. JT3 even said it in his postgame comments. He can live with those shots, they are open and it is what the defense was going to give us. They made their bet we could not make them when we needed it most and they won the bet.

Next year, we need guys to make that freakin' shot. How many games have you watched where the winning team takes and makes a big 3, almost any close game comes down to that type of shot in college, it is extremely hard to get to the rim in a tight game, you will not get a call and the defense is usually packing it in.

[Buckets]

Mar 19, 2009 8:31:11 GMT -5 NCHoya said:

Mar 19, 2009 8:16:09 GMT -5 hoopsmccan said:

I don't mind the 3 approach, just because we don't have anyone to get us the quick 2. The only person that can penetrate is Wright, but he is not a consistent finisher. Though, even if you decide to take a 3 rather than a quick 2 and foul, that does not preclude you from running a play to try to get someone open. Screens, drive and kick out...something. Once we decide on a 3, we just pass it around the outside until someone decides to launch.

Bingo.

Who is going to get the quick two? I do not trust any of them to drive and finish. Monroe had a case of the bobbles in the last 10 minutes of the game so he was basically useless at that point, Dejuan is just as likely to lose the ball out of bounds as actually getting to the rim and no other player has the ability to create his own shot (except Austin, but he can only play in the 1st half). CW can, but Baylor's very small but super fast guards took that option off the table all night.

The fact is a wide open three is a good shot. JT3 even said it in his postgame comments. He can live with those shots, they are open and it is what the defense was going to give us. They made their bet we could not make them when we needed it most and they won the bet.

Next year, we need guys to make that freakin' shot. How many games have you watched where the winning team takes and makes a big 3, almost any close game comes down to that type of shot in college, it is extremely hard to get to the rim in a tight game, you will not get a call and the defense is usually packing it in.

All good points, but could we at least PRETEND to go to the rim in a late game situation? No one ever looks inside the three-point line, and we just throw it around the perimeter. Even if you don't trust CW to finish, can we not get a better shot with him penetrating and kicking instead of passing it around and just letting everyone in the stadium know we're eventually going to bomb a three.

[hoyamac22]

We forgot to add the lazy passes around the top of the perimeter...Check
Everyone standing around, no screens, backdoors, cuts....Check
Simply no effort to get the ball inside...check

So happy this season is over....check

[gtowndynasty]

Mar 19, 2009 10:11:12 GMT -5 Buckets said:

Mar 19, 2009 8:31:11 GMT -5 NCHoya said:

Bingo.

Who is going to get the quick two? I do not trust any of them to drive and finish. Monroe had a case of the bobbles in the last 10 minutes of the game so he was basically useless at that point, Dejuan is just as likely to lose the ball out of bounds as actually getting to the rim and no other player has the ability to create his own shot (except Austin, but he can only play in the 1st half). CW can, but Baylor's very small but super fast guards took that option off the table all night.

The fact is a wide open three is a good shot. JT3 even said it in his postgame comments. He can live with those shots, they are open and it is what the defense was going to give us. They made their bet we could not make them when we needed it most and they won the bet.

Next year, we need guys to make that freakin' shot. How many games have you watched where the winning team takes and makes a big 3, almost any close game comes down to that type of shot in college, it is extremely hard to get to the rim in a tight game, you will not get a call and the defense is usually packing it in.

All good points, but could we at least PRETEND to go to the rim in a late game situation? No one ever looks inside the three-point line, and we just throw it around the perimeter. Even if you don't trust CW to finish, can we not get a better shot with him penetrating and kicking instead of passing it around and just letting everyone in the stadium know we're eventually going to bomb a three.

I would be inclined to agree with your points...if we had 3 point shooters. I think your point presupposes at least that much. But when the percentage of the smallest player on the court hitting a three beyond nba range while he is defended...when that percentage is higher than going to the bucket getting either a fg, foul, or drive and kick then it is time for the Hoya season to end.

[hifigator]

One factor that both Florida and Georgetown were lacking contributed to the frustration this year and that's the ability to get to the line consistently down the stretch and knock them down. In close games, I think one of the most underrated qualities is the ability to consistently draw the contact and then knock the shots down. Whether it's from a strong post up player with his back to the basket or via strong dribble penatration, if you can do that then you really stack the deck in your favor. Too often both the Gators and Hoyas found themselves in close games down the stretch and passed the ball, primarily around the perimeter and then launched a long jumper with the clock winding down. That's a formula for a loss not a win.

[Coast2CoastHoya]

Mar 20, 2009 11:41:43 GMT -5 hifigator said:

One factor that both Florida and Georgetown were lacking contributed to the frustration this year and that's the ability to get to the line consistently down the stretch and knock them down. In close games, I think one of the most underrated qualities is the ability to consistently draw the contact and then knock the shots down. Whether it's from a strong post up player with his back to the basket or via strong dribble penatration, if you can do that then you really stack the deck in your favor. Too often both the Gators and Hoyas found themselves in close games down the stretch and passed the ball, primarily around the perimeter and then launched a long jumper with the clock winding down. That's a formula for a loss not a win.

Unfortunately for the Gators, Big Vern won't be much help in the charity stripe department.

[kellycpcm]

I watched Binghamton play Duke in Greensboro Thursday night. It didn’t take long to have a flashback to the Jeff Green Hoyas. Great spacing, crisp passing, little dribbling and great cutting. Unfortunately, Broadus just didn’t have any size to compete in the post. They battled hard against Duke, they didn’t give up. If Broadus can make the system work, why can’t III do it with better talent? Look at the season statistics for Binghamton- 5 players in double digits in scoring.

HOYA SAXA

[Boz]

If Coach Broadus goes through the next five seasons without having a single down year, I will call him the second coming of John Naismith.

JTIII didn't do it this year, but let's not start throwing words out like "can't" with reference to his abilities. Because it doesn't apply. He HAS done it. And I expect he WILL do it again, with this group of players. They just couldn't get it together this season. That happens. Next year will be better.