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Post by thebin on Apr 8, 2009 11:39:50 GMT -5
Those Baylor facilities look exceptional even for Big 12. I mean the softball stadium is even gorgeous. I don't mean to argue that they are not a poor Big 12 school endowment wise, I would never argue with anything DFW says about Texas or College sports! But they seem to be doing very well on the facilities front even for a BCS school. If I'm wrong and those are below average BCS facilities...it's amazing we get the athletes that we do.
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Post by hoya4ever on Apr 11, 2009 22:39:48 GMT -5
Men lose to Loyola, the only (extremely) faint hope of making it this year is gone. I just want to shake this team...
Women continue to dominate and beat Louisville. Next up is Loyola with a 9-4 (2-3) mark and Cinci with a 5-8 (0-5) mark.
Go Hoyas!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 25, 2009 10:06:49 GMT -5
Women Beat Lousiville in the Semifinals of the Big East tournament to move on to take on ND in the Finals Sunday at 1pm on the MFS. Everyone Should come out and support the women who are doing great this year. If they can win tomorrow they'll have won the BE regular season and tournament trophies for the big east this year. Everyone should try and come out and support the ladies.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 26, 2009 7:32:18 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 26, 2009 9:04:02 GMT -5
is there any truth to this: "Yet the Hoyas' strength of schedule and RPI numbers have them in contention to play beyond the first weekend of May, and a victory Saturday against Penn State could present the chance for Georgetown to pull out an improbable NCAA trip."
I mean we barely have a .500 record and are only .500 in the ECAC. This seems completely unlikely to the point it shouldn't have been brought up.
We have a good SOS but that's about it.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 26, 2009 18:03:58 GMT -5
Despite a furious late rally the women fall to ND in the BE title game. guhoyas.cstv.com/sports/w-lacros/recaps/042609aaa.htmlNot sure if it was the heat but the Hoyas looked really slow to start the game. Coach Fried must have done something to wake his players up because they came back in the second half with a purpose, but couldn't overcome a big deficit. Anyways, we're still a lock for the NCAA's, there's still a weird regular season game left against Yale next week but otherwise hopefully the team can bounce back and make a good run in the tourney. |
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Post by kchoya on Apr 29, 2009 12:06:26 GMT -5
Two weeks ago, while at the Baylor NIT game, I visited the Baylor facilities: baylorbears.cstv.com/school-bio/bay-facilities-index.html Baylor isn't some big state school, either. Any one of its buildings at GU would collectively bowl us over, but as was said at the game, these were consdered the poorest in the Big 12. Yes, but even the "poorest" school in the Big XII still has advantages over Georgetown: a bigger endowment, an undergrad population almost twice as big as Georgetown's, infinitely more space upon which to build (they have an equestrian center and their own clubhouse at a local golf club for goodness sakes). They also get Big XII shares, which, I imagine, are more than in the Big East. Somewhat apples & oranges... |
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Apr 29, 2009 12:57:17 GMT -5
Yes, but even the "poorest" school in the Big XII still has advantages over Georgetown: a bigger endowment, an undergrad population almost twice as big as Georgetown's, infinitely more space upon which to build (they have an equestrian center and their own clubhouse at a local golf club for goodness sakes). They also get Big XII shares, which, I imagine, are more than in the Big East. Somewhat apples & oranges... Agree re: apples and oranges, but FWIW, BU and GU are pretty much even in the endowment race: www.nacubo.org/documents/research/NES2008PublicTable-AllInstitutionsByFY08MarketValue.pdfThe real differences are 1) space -- GU doesn't have it and is forced to use off-campus facilities for baseball, softball, track and basketball; and 2) Baylor has successfully solicited athletic contributions from alumni -- notice that most of the new projects have naming donors, which wasn't the case with the MSF. Much of the donor enthusiasm can be linked to Baylor's status as a member of the Big 12 conference. (FWIW, the conspiracy theory at many former Southwest Conference schools is that Texas Gov. Ann Richards, Baylor Class of 1954, threatened to prevent the formation of the Big 12 if the Bears weren't included over TCU/SMU/Houston/Rice.) To deal with the differences above, GU needs to think about: 1) buying space away from campus within the city limits or in NoVA; and 2) decide whether it wants to be a major athletic program within a major conference or an athletic program that offers as many opportunities to as many undergraduates as possible in the spirit of educating the whole person. (Being both is not impossible, but that would require a serious financial lift.) |
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Post by theexorcist on Apr 29, 2009 13:14:08 GMT -5
Wouldn't it have been great if, in the late 90s, Georgetown had had an option to purchase a college in Northwest D.C.?
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 29, 2009 14:57:28 GMT -5
you mean one that is 3 minutes up the road from the main campus?? yea that would be way too perfect
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Apr 29, 2009 20:46:22 GMT -5
No way we would have done what GW did to Mount Vernon. Zero chance. They stole 26 acres of prime real estate. Grand theft larceny. They were supposed to be benefactors and instead they kicked all the Mt Vernon folks out the door. Threw them on the street and usurped the land.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on May 15, 2009 8:37:36 GMT -5
No way we would have done what GW did to Mount Vernon. Zero chance. They stole 26 acres of prime real estate. Grand theft larceny. They were supposed to be benefactors and instead they kicked all the Mt Vernon folks out the door. Threw them on the street and usurped the land. Nope -- GU were benefactors, and given first option to buy out the College once Mt. Vernon figured out they were unsustainable. When GU passed (worst decision ever), GW was happy to swoop in and clean up. All of the students were transferred to GWU student status, and I'm not sure what they ended up doing with faculty/staff. |
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on May 15, 2009 11:07:32 GMT -5
Nope. I repeat, no way we would have done what GW did. Zero chance. We had first option to buy Mt Vernon but we would have paid close to market rates, which was estimated to be about 50 mil . GW wasn't supposed to buy Mt Vernon. Mt Vernon hadn't put themselves on the market yet and they were still attempting to remain independent. GW was supposed to be a benefactor and help Mt Vernon out with their existing debt which was $6 mil. That 6 mil was owed to Georgetown. GW paid off that debt, then somehow got control of the Mt Vernon board, then fired the entire faculty and then usurped the campus. They got Mt Vernon for 6 million when the fair value was 8 to 9 times greater.
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Post by hoya4ever on May 15, 2009 14:07:08 GMT -5
Never knew that story. Isn't there some kind of academic world punishment for this? There is no board to punish GW?
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on May 15, 2009 15:24:03 GMT -5
Technically what GW did was legal, ethically that's a different story. GW claimed that they paid off the debt to Georgetown and that Mt Vernon was insolvent so by right the campus was theirs. They originally fired the Mt Vernon faculty and gave them zero severance. That ultimately got changed after a few lawsuits on behalf of the faculty. Now more than a decade later, nobody remembers how the whole thing went down. GW went on a power move and won bigtime.
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Post by hoyawatcher on May 25, 2009 21:35:01 GMT -5
Thought I would chime in on the facilities as one who just tagged along on a recruiting visit to Georgetown. The location and academics are amazing but the athletic facilities don't compare to several of your BE competitors or similar academically oriented universities like Duke. In a lot of ways the buildings and set up reminded me a lot of Cornell and less than others such as Syracuse, Wake Forrest or Duke. Couple of specifics - McDounough has to host 3 teams for daily practice - M&W BB plus VB. That is 7 or so hours per day to be scheduled which causes some serious class scheduling problem for at least one of the teams. Most of your competition either has or is building a BB practice facility. It is a big deal for the pinache of the men's BB team but has a huge carryover effect for the second tier teams. Some places even at the level of a Liberty University have stand alone VB facilities which GT can not even dream of right now. Same with the weigh room facilities which are below most of your peer group though a lot of that may be the spillover effect of FB. It is also somewhat humerous to watch the baseball team practie on the FB field. Not sure how often they have to do that but it is something few other BE teams have to put up with.
My intent is not to simply dump on GT as I now have a vested interest in your success. But there are some major facilities and scholarship issues that the new AD is going to have to address. Given the focus on BB my bet is he/she has to start with a BB practice facility but could be wrong.
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Post by jkhoya12 on May 25, 2009 22:08:05 GMT -5
Thought I would chime in on the facilities as one who just tagged along on a recruiting visit to Georgetown. The location and academics are amazing but the athletic facilities don't compare to several of your BE competitors or similar academically oriented universities like Duke. In a lot of ways the buildings and set up reminded me a lot of Cornell and less than others such as Syracuse, Wake Forrest or Duke. Couple of specifics - McDounough has to host 3 teams for daily practice - M&W BB plus VB. That is 7 or so hours per day to be scheduled which causes some serious class scheduling problem for at least one of the teams. Most of your competition either has or is building a BB practice facility. It is a big deal for the pinache of the men's BB team but has a huge carryover effect for the second tier teams. Some places even at the level of a Liberty University have stand alone VB facilities which GT can not even dream of right now. Same with the weigh room facilities which are below most of your peer group though a lot of that may be the spillover effect of FB. It is also somewhat humerous to watch the baseball team practie on the FB field. Not sure how often they have to do that but it is something few other BE teams have to put up with. My intent is not to simply dump on GT as I now have a vested interest in your success. But there are some major facilities and scholarship issues that the new AD is going to have to address. Given the focus on BB my bet is he/she has to start with a BB practice facility but could be wrong. Couldn't agree more, although this has been addressed ad nauseum on this board. I would also say that I have no desire to do anything like Syracuse, so it doesn't bother me in the slightest that our facilities aren't like theirs. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 26, 2009 16:56:30 GMT -5
Georgetown University senior men's lacrosse players Stevie Bauer (Red Bank, N.J./Peddie School) and Chris Taylor (Mercer Island, Wash./Mercer Island) both received postseason honors announced recently.
Bauer was named an honorable mention All America by the United States Intercollegiate Lacrosse Association, while Taylor was named to the CoSIDA (College Sports Information Directors of America) Academic All-District 2 First Team.
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Post by hoyaalf on Jul 27, 2009 21:03:10 GMT -5
I knew him , Horatio.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 29, 2009 13:02:11 GMT -5
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