royski
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Post by royski on Mar 11, 2009 18:09:20 GMT -5
That's from the Blue Ribbon preview article of our team two years ago. Jessie Sapp found his minutes getting shorter and shorter this season, as the team began to lose more and more. JTIII has never publicly commented on this, and I don't really expect him to. But I hope that he at least has given some answers to Jessie, if not to us, because as painful as it was for all of us watching Nikita jack up a 3 off the side of the backboard with the season on the line, I can't imagine how frustrating it must've been for the guy who should've been taking the shot.
Thanks for the memories Jessie, you were a great Hoya. And while I may be wrong, I don't think I am in saying that you deserved better than this.
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Post by bigtymehoya on Mar 11, 2009 18:15:21 GMT -5
That's from the Blue Ribbon preview article of our team two years ago. Jessie Sapp found his minutes getting shorter and shorter this season, as the team began to lose more and more. JTIII has never publicly commented on this, and I don't really expect him to. But I hope that he at least has given some answers to Jessie, if not to us, because as painful as it was for all of us watching Nikita jack up a 3 off the side of the backboard with the season on the line, I can't imagine how frustrating it must've been for the guy who should've been taking the shot. Thanks for the memories Jessie, you were a great Hoya. And while I may be wrong, I don't think I am in saying that you deserved better than this. I read this exact quote. This is also why I protect the guy so much. Sapp can play. And yes, he deserved better.
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Post by hsaxa2010 on Mar 11, 2009 18:16:56 GMT -5
I always felt Jessie should have seen more playing time when he was actually getting less playing time. I didn't agree with Jessie losing his starting spot, and was shocked to see that Jessie didn't even start on Senior Day against DePaul, of all teams. He always seemed to play hard, even if his shot wasn't always there. I wish Jessie the best of luck with whatever he goes on to do after this year, and will never forget him as a starter on our Final Four team
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Post by Hoya TMF on Mar 11, 2009 18:27:06 GMT -5
Hopefully he will have another opportunity to shine. It's not the Big Dance, but it would be nice to see Jessie suit up a few more times for our Hoyas.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 11, 2009 18:29:59 GMT -5
He should have never been benched.. End of story
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Post by Hoya TMF on Mar 11, 2009 18:39:12 GMT -5
i hated to see him benched too, but he did start playing better after he left the starting line-up. Plus, he was always in during crunch time, so its not like he lost his late game minutes.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 11, 2009 21:10:30 GMT -5
He should have never been benched.. End of story Well obviously the people who actually talk to the players, see their interactions on and off the court, are with them in the locker room, and most importantly in practice saw it differently. But I am sure you know better. Personally I think Sapp should have been benched sooner than he was, it was obvouis during games he wasn't the same Sapp from the past two years. I think he has ended up finding himself, but it was too late.
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 11, 2009 22:52:57 GMT -5
He should have never been benched.. End of story Well obviously the people who actually talk to the players, see their interactions on and off the court, are with them in the locker room, and most importantly in practice saw it differently. But I am sure you know better. Personally I think Sapp should have been benched sooner than he was, it was obvouis during games he wasn't the same Sapp from the past two years. I think he has ended up finding himself, but it was too late. I think he was asked to be a very different Sapp from the last two years. And when that guy was a critical glue guy for back to back Big East regular season titles and a Final Four, I'm not sure it's the right decision to heavily mess with what he does.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 11, 2009 23:03:00 GMT -5
Wright and/or Freeman should have hit the bench before Jessie. And Nikita never should have started. I agree with giving him a little more time. He had some shining moments and showed some hustle. But Nikita is no Jesse.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 11, 2009 23:15:14 GMT -5
Well obviously the people who actually talk to the players, see their interactions on and off the court, are with them in the locker room, and most importantly in practice saw it differently. But I am sure you know better. Personally I think Sapp should have been benched sooner than he was, it was obvouis during games he wasn't the same Sapp from the past two years. I think he has ended up finding himself, but it was too late. I think he was asked to be a very different Sapp from the last two years. And when that guy was a critical glue guy for back to back Big East regular season titles and a Final Four, I'm not sure it's the right decision to heavily mess with what he does. And what exactly do you think he was asked to do that was different from the last two years?
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Post by royski on Mar 11, 2009 23:28:00 GMT -5
I think he was asked to be a very different Sapp from the last two years. And when that guy was a critical glue guy for back to back Big East regular season titles and a Final Four, I'm not sure it's the right decision to heavily mess with what he does. And what exactly do you think he was asked to do that was different from the last two years? Play primarily off the ball and be a scorer instead of playing on it or half and half and being a facilitator.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 11, 2009 23:36:33 GMT -5
And what exactly do you think he was asked to do that was different from the last two years? Play primarily off the ball and be a scorer instead of playing on it or half and half and being a facilitator. I'll give you off the ball, but Sapp was never asked to be a scorer, we had plenty of those. All he needed to do for us this year was play tough defense, and be a leader when things were getting rough and maybe hit a few open shots. He didn't do it. Simple as that. I personally think if he had just accepted his role things this season would have been much much different, but he didn't and now we are heading to the NIT, if we are lucky.
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Post by royski on Mar 11, 2009 23:50:41 GMT -5
Play primarily off the ball and be a scorer instead of playing on it or half and half and being a facilitator. I'll give you off the ball, but Sapp was never asked to be a scorer, we had plenty of those. All he needed to do for us this year was play tough defense, and be a leader when things were getting rough and maybe hit a few open shots. He didn't do it. Simple as that. I personally think if he had just accepted his role things this season would have been much much different, but he didn't and now we are heading to the NIT, if we are lucky. That he should've done a better job accepting the role, I agree with. But I don't think the proper role was assigned.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 11, 2009 23:55:55 GMT -5
I'll give you off the ball, but Sapp was never asked to be a scorer, we had plenty of those. All he needed to do for us this year was play tough defense, and be a leader when things were getting rough and maybe hit a few open shots. He didn't do it. Simple as that. I personally think if he had just accepted his role things this season would have been much much different, but he didn't and now we are heading to the NIT, if we are lucky. That he should've done a better job accepting the role, I agree with. But I don't think the proper role was assigned. What do you think the proper role was then?
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Post by royski on Mar 12, 2009 0:07:43 GMT -5
I think that Jessie and Wright should've shared ballhandling duties 50-50. That way, Sapp could teach Wright how to run the offense, while Wright could learn, but still make a difference sometimes with his penetration. I think Wright had potential to be a really tough matchup off the ball on occasion and we never really exploited this. The last two years, there were really two ball handlers. I think the offense works better with 2. It would've made Wright more of an asset to an already gifted team. They press? Wright breaks it. They back off? Sapp takes it up the court and sets up the offense.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 12, 2009 0:15:26 GMT -5
I think that Jessie and Wright should've shared ballhandling duties 50-50. That way, Sapp could teach Wright how to run the offense, while Wright could learn, but still make a difference sometimes with his penetration. I think Wright had potential to be a really tough matchup off the ball on occasion and we never really exploited this. The last two years, there were really two ball handlers. I think the offense works better with 2. It would've made Wright more of an asset to an already gifted team. They press? Wright breaks it. They back off? Sapp takes it up the court and sets up the offense. Except that seems to be almost what happened and its one of the reasons for our collapse. Wright became a much much better player when Sapp was benched and the offense was handed over to him completely. And Sapp seemed to play better coming off the bench and not overthinking. I think that was actually the plan and how the season started, but it kind of backfired(see Duke game) for whatever reason, and by the time they corrected it and Sapp and Wright turned it around, it was too late.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 12, 2009 5:30:09 GMT -5
He should have never been benched.. End of story Well obviously the people who actually talk to the players, see their interactions on and off the court, are with them in the locker room, and most importantly in practice saw it differently. But I am sure you know better. Personally I think Sapp should have been benched sooner than he was, it was obvouis during games he wasn't the same Sapp from the past two years. I think he has ended up finding himself, but it was too late. Oh yeah sorry I forgot. Your personal opinion is more important than mine seeing as your with him in the locker room and at practice too
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Post by idhoya on Mar 12, 2009 9:19:56 GMT -5
Who says Jessie didn't try to teach CW how to run the offense? Who says CW listened?
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Post by hoyatables on Mar 12, 2009 9:47:08 GMT -5
i hated to see him benched too, but he did start playing better after he left the starting line-up. Plus, he was always in during crunch time, so its not like he lost his late game minutes. I seem to recall Jessie being mired in a horrible slump for much of the season -- including the early part of Big East play. Or did everyone forget about that?
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Post by guru on Mar 12, 2009 10:08:05 GMT -5
i hated to see him benched too, but he did start playing better after he left the starting line-up. Plus, he was always in during crunch time, so its not like he lost his late game minutes. I seem to recall Jessie being mired in a horrible slump for much of the season -- including the early part of Big East play. Or did everyone forget about that? Jessie had a very nice career here, and will be remembered fondly in the long term for his guts and contributions to an amazing three year run by the team. That said, he was horrible this year. No two ways about it.
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