lichoya68
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 10, 2009 19:40:10 GMT -5
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hoya95
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
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Post by hoya95 on Mar 10, 2009 19:43:25 GMT -5
This season could bring tears to a lumberjack. But next year will get here. Thank God.
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Post by gtown59270 on Mar 10, 2009 19:50:05 GMT -5
we always got next year
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Post by regalmeans on Mar 10, 2009 20:08:27 GMT -5
Me too Lic, me too. I'm just tired of seeing things end like that.
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royski
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
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Post by royski on Mar 10, 2009 20:10:37 GMT -5
You know who's sad? Tennessee. We were supposed to be a marquee win for them.
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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Mar 10, 2009 20:11:44 GMT -5
I would guess that Memphis is just smiling
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 10, 2009 20:13:52 GMT -5
I would guess that Memphis is just smiling Probably not much. We're likely to cost them a 1 seed. We are definitely their worst loss of the season. If UConn doesn't get a 1 seed, we'll be the reason for that too. |
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Mar 10, 2009 20:33:15 GMT -5
I d like know why we are going to be so much better next year?
1. are our guards going to be more dynamic?
2. Are we going to be a better 3 pt shooting team?
3. Will we pressure more in defense?
4. Isnt the core going to be the same?
We better recruit some help with some guys or next year might not be so different
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hoya95
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
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Post by hoya95 on Mar 10, 2009 20:41:01 GMT -5
I d like know why we are going to be so much better next year? 1. are our guards going to be more dynamic? 2. Are we going to be a better 3 pt shooting team? 3. Will we pressure more in defense? 4. Isnt the core going to be the same? We better recruit some help with some guys or next year might not be so different To quote John Lennon, "it can't get no worse." Wright was a bright spot through all this, and he'll get better. Clark, Sims and Vaughn will improve. The whole team will have a year of experience playing with each other. The offseason will hopefully wash away a bunch of bad karma and frustrations. And so many of the Big East's best players will be gone. It'll get better. |
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 10, 2009 20:51:52 GMT -5
If Greg comes back, he could become a truly dominant player next season. If he doesn't, I'm not convinced that this team is going back to the dance until 2011 at the earliest.
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Post by gtown59270 on Mar 10, 2009 23:39:59 GMT -5
We will be better !!!!!!!!!!
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Post by hoyaheaven on Mar 11, 2009 7:13:59 GMT -5
That's the point...the wailing. desolate crying from the desert...from the Press, Fans, Alumni, and other BE students-of-the-game...Greg WILL NOT get measurably better standing around at the top of the key...waltzing in III's East-West perimeter offense while the North-South guys clean our clock.
It's dumb. It's not fair to Monroe. He'll never be fulfilled playing in and with the Ivy League mentality.
We have no offense that can match-up to the current BE talent pool. Load the schedule with Colgates, Princetons, Dartmouths et al...and this is a winning program.
But no way is this a winning organization in the BE. The big boys play in the BE: Pitino, Dixon, Boeheim, etc...they're not intimidated by back door cuts and gutless rebounding...and thus our offense is like kissing your sister. No zing, no originality, no virtuoso performers. Hell...watch the Hoyas on the floor...they look like they're ready to go to sleep.
III has lost this team.
If III doesn't change his thinking and recruit wisely, get better assistants, and weed the Ivy offense out of the Hoya garden...we'll be dead meat next year and beyond.
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lucky
Silver Hoya (over 500 posts)
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Post by lucky on Mar 11, 2009 7:34:01 GMT -5
HH while I agree with you that JTIII lost this team (sometime during or just after the Duke loss to my estimation) I think it is incorrect to say that this system cannot win in the Big East. It has previously proven otherwise. It was winning earlier this year in Conneticut. However it requires the team to execute, move, pass...all things they stopped doing in early to mid January and settled for passing around the arc and jacking the first psuedo open shot that came their way. With 4 around the arc and one at the free throw line, no one in possition to rebound.
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lichoya68
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 11, 2009 10:36:15 GMT -5
agree hoya 95... this was the worst hoya performance the last couple of months of any ....thats ANY HOYA TEAM IVE SEEN SINCE 1964 for the talent they have ......so IT CANT BE ANY WORSER ...ITS GOTTA BE BETTER... AND IT WILL BE... is it november yet? .. they must awake ... THEYRE in a fog ... just out synch ...yup... GO HOYAS.... BEAT GEORGE MASON ..and reember the as per john wooten the more i practice the luckier i get remember when jesses said the manager made him stay after to practice shooting THE MANAGER MADE HIM DO IT this team must don that alot the more shots you take the better you get end of story THE TEAMs gotta decide to do that.. remember from alonzos book hed punish himself with practice right after a loss to work it out and push himself yup go hoyas CANT GET WORSE NOPE NO WAY  |
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HoyaNCCT
Silver Hoya (over 500 posts)
We will remind them.
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Post by HoyaNCCT on Mar 11, 2009 15:34:21 GMT -5
We are probably the worst team to beat two possible NCAA number one seeds in one year... Memphis and Uconnvict.
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Mar 11, 2009 15:41:23 GMT -5
That's the point...the wailing. desolate crying from the desert...from the Press, Fans, Alumni, and other BE students-of-the-game...Greg WILL NOT get measurably better standing around at the top of the key...waltzing in III's East-West perimeter offense while the North-South guys clean our clock. It's dumb. It's not fair to Monroe. He'll never be fulfilled playing in and with the Ivy League mentality. We have no offense that can match-up to the current BE talent pool. Load the schedule with Colgates, Princetons, Dartmouths et al...and this is a winning program. But no way is this a winning organization in the BE. The big boys play in the BE: Pitino, Dixon, Boeheim, etc...they're not intimidated by back door cuts and gutless rebounding...and thus our offense is like kissing your sister. No zing, no originality, no virtuoso performers. Hell...watch the Hoyas on the floor...they look like they're ready to go to sleep. III has lost this team. If III doesn't change his thinking and recruit wisely, get better assistants, and weed the Ivy offense out of the Hoya garden...we'll be dead meat next year and beyond. I'm sorry, I was distracted remembering Georgetown's consecutive Big East regular season championships and one Final Four appearance with THE SAME SYSTEM. Were you saying something? |
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71hoya
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Post by 71hoya on Mar 11, 2009 17:50:52 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I am sick of people bringing up the past Big East and Final Four championship to show that the "system" still works and will work in the future. Wake up -- it doesn't. The Big East has figured it out -- in your face defense, expect the cut, trap and protect the passing lanes - or pack in a zone and wait for us to take a bad shot with 1 second on the clock.
When you don't have the players to run your offense, you adjust and go to your strength.
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royski
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
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Post by royski on Mar 11, 2009 17:55:30 GMT -5
The Big East didn't figure out anything. They just found the offense easier to guard when it lacked a dead-eye, clutch, nearly 50% 3 point shooting, 4 year starting guard, an NBA level finisher off the bench and a 7-2 monster in the post that couldn't be guarded one on one.
You pack the zone against Jon Wallace and he'll make it rain. The offense needs shooters and a legitimate go-to post option to win in the Big East. So does every other offense. Check the standings.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Mar 11, 2009 18:06:31 GMT -5
If Greg comes back, he could become a truly dominant player next season. If he doesn't, I'm not convinced that this team is going back to the dance until 2010 at the earliest. next year's tournament is 2010 |
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 11, 2009 18:12:31 GMT -5
If Greg comes back, he could become a truly dominant player next season. If he doesn't, I'm not convinced that this team is going back to the dance until 2010 at the earliest. next year's tournament is 2010 Oops, nice catch. Getting my recruiting years and tournament dates mixed up. |
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