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Post by guru on Feb 24, 2009 15:39:38 GMT -5
scott van pelt on the hoyas just now on espn radio:
** Said Hoyas looked "beaten and broken down and looked like they just don't care" last night against louisville - though he did acknowledge that Louisville is pretty scary right now.
** also mentioned rumors that players are not happy running this system. Then pointed out, rightly, that the players knew what the system was when they signed up, so it's hard to believe that's the cause.
** Said Andy Katz says he has heard nothing to indicate that JT3 has lost the team.
** But man he's really going off on us - like a true Terp. Sad to say, he's right.
** Said that if Hoyas make the tournament, they shouldn't expand the tournament, they should cut it in half. Only wins in last 10 games are Rutgers and USF, two teams that are 27 games under .500 combined.
** Closed by reading an email from some Hoya fan named "Ryan" that just shredded JT3
** Final word - "staggering, head-scratching stuff" at Georgetown.
Yikes. Nothing new but not fun to be taken behind the woodshed on a nationally syndicated show.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 24, 2009 15:40:42 GMT -5
bring back the Fairness Doctrine!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 24, 2009 15:44:42 GMT -5
We will remind him of all of this when we rebound next season. And remember - this is a guy who cut his teeth on The Golf Channel.
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Post by guru on Feb 24, 2009 15:45:50 GMT -5
To be fair, it didn't really come across as bashing by Van Pelt. He sounded as dumbfounded as the rest of us at the way this team has cratered.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 24, 2009 15:45:56 GMT -5
Yawn.
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Post by westendhoya on Feb 24, 2009 15:50:17 GMT -5
Well even in this shedshow of a season.....
Georgetown 75 Maryland 48
---And that scoreline was very generous to Maryland
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 24, 2009 16:20:25 GMT -5
What game was he watching when he says they played like they didn't care? That is garbage.
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Post by The Stig on Feb 24, 2009 16:24:58 GMT -5
If anything the guys cared too much and were trying to force things. I could see him saying we didn't care towards the start of this bad spell, but that hasn't been our problem lately.
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 24, 2009 16:32:40 GMT -5
If anything the guys cared too much and were trying to force things. I could see him saying we didn't care towards the start of this bad spell, but that hasn't been our problem lately. Exactly, playing tight and stressed does not equal not caring. If anything, we have the opposite problem. Our team is thinking about it way too much.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 24, 2009 21:31:18 GMT -5
Didn't come off as bashing so much as uninformed. I think SVP looked at the record and watched either the very beginning of yesterday's game or the very end and that's it. Sounded very much like he was going on other talking heads' opinions. Though he certainly should have remembered the beatdown his beloved Grevious (spelling intended) and the Twerps got at the hands of you know who. Lucky for SVP, he got to see such a beatdown of his crummy alma mater more than once this season.
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Post by paranoia2 on Feb 25, 2009 3:12:17 GMT -5
Get blue chip recruits (local mostly) and don't produce you are going to be open for bashing. If it doesn't kill you it makes you...
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Post by tashoya on Feb 25, 2009 8:32:38 GMT -5
.... angry? ..... sleepless? .... confused? ..... bored in March?
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Feb 25, 2009 9:41:40 GMT -5
all of the above
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Feb 25, 2009 9:51:00 GMT -5
The truly sad part of this all is that Maryland actually has a chance to make the tournament.
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Post by unclebeets on Feb 25, 2009 11:01:06 GMT -5
scott van pelt on the hoyas just now on espn radio: ** also mentioned rumors that players are not happy running this system. Then pointed out, rightly, that the players knew what the system was when they signed up, so it's hard to believe that's the cause. Van Pelt is second-tier -- he should be co-hosting Stump the Schwab. Source of the rumors?
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 25, 2009 11:32:35 GMT -5
The truly sad part of this all is that Maryland actually has a chance to make the tournament. We still do too, and probably a better one than they do
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Post by harwoodhoya on Feb 25, 2009 12:54:10 GMT -5
He is right in some regard but the Princeton offense is the same offense that led us to the final four and 2 big east chips. Maybe we need to stop looking at the coach and realize the players need to get it done. I watched the Louisville game and we missed fts and open looks. That was the reason why we lost. Not the Princeton offense. Maybe its time for a change but dont let a bad season stop you from supporting our team. They need us more than ever now!
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Post by sleepy on Feb 25, 2009 13:42:47 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes winning that much sweeter, when we do infact start winning again. The offense this season is not the problem. Our offense, outside of a few games, has been really good. It has been the defense that has killed us. So all these rumors or complaints about the offense just aren't warrented and frankly make little sense. Also anyone who actually watched the game would have seen that the Hoya team that took the floor last night cared a little too much. They were too tight.
And really "staggering and head scratching stuff"? Really? While I thought and expected the Hoyas to have a much better season than this and hoped they would play beyond their years, I certainly considered this a possibility coming into the season, especially given the schedule. Is it really that hard to understand how a team made up of all freshman and sophomores(75 % of which are playing their first full season), can struggle so much in the last 10 minutes of a game against teams loaded with juniors and seniors? Really?
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Post by Boz on Feb 25, 2009 13:49:32 GMT -5
I never really understand the allocation of ESPN resources.
OK, Van Pelt hosts a daily radio show, so of course he's got to be prepared to talk about any subject in sports, but has he ever covered college basketball? When you think of college basketball analysts, does the name Scott Van Pelt even rank in the top 50?
He's a very good golf guy, absolutely. I enjoy his work on all of ESPN's golf coverage, but he's really not who I turn to for analysis of any other sport besides that.
Similarly (not exactly the same situation, I realize), I noticed the other day SportsCenter had on Mike Golic to talk about Tiger Woods' comeback. Mike Golic? Really? You have guys like Andy North and Scott Van Pelt on your payroll and you bring in this doofus to talk about Tiger? WTF?
Oh well. I don't pay much attention to anything most of these guys say anyway, so I guess it's no big deal. Just doesn't seem to make much sense.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 25, 2009 21:24:07 GMT -5
It's stuff like this that makes winning that much sweeter, when we do infact start winning again. The offense this season is not the problem. Our offense, outside of a few games, has been really good. It has been the defense that has killed us. So all these rumors or complaints about the offense just aren't warrented and frankly make little sense. Also anyone who actually watched the game would have seen that the Hoya team that took the floor last night cared a little too much. They were too tight. And really "staggering and head scratching stuff"? Really? While I thought and expected the Hoyas to have a much better season than this and hoped they would play beyond their years, I certainly considered this a possibility coming into the season, especially given the schedule. Is it really that hard to understand how a team made up of all freshman and sophomores(75 % of which are playing their first full season), can struggle so much in the last 10 minutes of a game against teams loaded with juniors and seniors? Really? I guess it is to the_way. After all, if Monroe were in impact player, he would have won a few of those games for us by dominating the last 10 minutes.
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