aggypryd
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Post by aggypryd on Feb 3, 2005 15:18:06 GMT -5
...but after watching last night's game between Wake and Duke and comparing it to the Illinois/MSU game, I don't think their 'teams' are better than the other big conferences...(except Carolina)...I still think they're good, but not what they were hyped up to be...
Unless one of those teams were just really en fuego, I really like our chances against any of them because of JTIII's system...The ACC schools want to get up and down the floor, and our offense slows you down...and if you're impatient on defense, that's when we start back-door-ing teams and getting easy-looks...
I still believe the ACC will have about 4 teams in the Sweet 16, and Carolina will win it all, but the rest of the ACC is going to struggle more than Dickie V thinks...
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Post by the_way on Feb 3, 2005 15:22:24 GMT -5
...but after watching last night's game between Wake and Duke and comparing it to the Illinois/MSU game, I don't think their 'teams' are better than the other big conferences...(except Carolina)...I still think they're good, but not what they were hyped up to be... Unless one of those teams were just really en fuego, I really like our chances against any of them because of JTIII's system...The ACC schools want to get up and down the floor, and our offense slows you down...and if you're impatient on defense, that's when we start back-door-ing teams and getting easy-looks... I still believe the ACC will have about 4 teams in the Sweet 16, and Carolina will win it all, but the rest of the ACC is going to struggle more than Dickie V thinks... LOL. Rome wasn't built in a day, so...  |
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Post by DaHoya on Feb 3, 2005 15:38:27 GMT -5
The ACC is very talented........
for me to poop on!
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Post by SoCalHoya on Feb 3, 2005 15:40:25 GMT -5
oh you beat me to it. I immediately thought "...for me to poop on!"
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HoyaNCCT
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Post by HoyaNCCT on Feb 3, 2005 16:17:58 GMT -5
poop is a great word.
The ACC is so talented. They are the best. I wish I went to an ACC school. ACC ACC ACC.
MARSHA MARSHA MARSHA!!!
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 3, 2005 21:16:28 GMT -5
THE ACC IS VERY TALENTED HMMMMMMMMMMM WHAT THEIR FREAKING RECORD VS US BIG EAST SCHOOLS EXCUSE ME ... THE LATEST WAS PROVIDENCE WINLESS IN THE BIG EAST BY HOW MANY OVER UVA... and about that maryland game let me see we beat clemson by what fifthteen or so and clemson beats maryland by about fifthteen or so so if i can add even tho i went to gu... thats gu about 30 or so over maryland so who is the acc and anyone watch any new big east next years like louisville and cinncinati last nite like were on our way up and they are on there way down... go hoyas go bigeast lets play again and add to the lopsided acc vs bigeast head to head go hoyas beat the knights go big east beat the acc and the last two ncaa national champs were from what conference GIVE ME A BREAK GO HOYAS GO BETTER BIG EAST NEXT YEAR  |
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Post by Joe Hoya on Feb 4, 2005 1:58:42 GMT -5
THE LATEST WAS PROVIDENCE WINLESS IN THE BIG EAST BY HOW MANY OVER UVA This season, using Providence and Virginia as examples of Big East and ACC teams is like saying that the Oakland Raiders and Arizona Cardinals (now with a meaner logo!) are NFL teams. I mean, yeah they are in the league...but come on. The ACC is an excellent conference. The Big East is an excellent conference. Next season, the debate should be pretty short-lived, but this season, they're both strong. The top teams in the Big East have certainly done more to shoot themselves in the foot than the top ACC teams have, though (and I'm talking to YOU, Pitt and UConn). Speaking of the Cardinals' new logo...the "Quote of the Day" on the Sports Guy page made me laugh ALOT. From Josh McCown, quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals "NFL team": "The only birds I know about are the duck and the dove and the quail, birds that you shoot. You're not really supposed to shoot cardinals. I don't know if I'd shoot this bird. It looks pretty mean. This bird might pull a gun out and shoot right back at you." |
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Post by the_way on Feb 4, 2005 9:15:17 GMT -5
There are only two good/great teams in the ACC, Wake Forest and Carolina. The rest of the league is mediocre.
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Post by mplshoya on Feb 4, 2005 9:30:13 GMT -5
Wake, Duke, and NC are three of the premier teams in the country. I think top to bottom the Big East is the better conference, but after having watched NC demolish NC state last night, I think at this point the three top ACC teams would crush our top 3 of BC, Syracuse, and Pitt/UConn. Anyone who watched the game last night would agree, NC looked like an NBA team. They absolutely shredded State.
The 6-1 Big East vs. ACC stat is nice, but misleading. As far as I can remember, most of those victories were against Clemson, Virginia, and NC state. Not exactly the cream of the crop. The top three of the ACC are really good, and its going to take tourney time for the Big East to prove itself as the best conference in the country. Until then, the ACC is king.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Feb 4, 2005 9:36:43 GMT -5
I guess we'll have a good chance to get a sense of the top vs. top (or at least top v. upper middle) in a couple of weeks, when UNC visits the UConn Huskies in Hartford.
While I'm pretty sure the Heels will take that one, it would be a huge win for the BE if UConn pulled it off.
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Post by the_way on Feb 4, 2005 9:37:19 GMT -5
Wake, Duke, and NC are three of the premier teams in the country. I think top to bottom the Big East is the better conference, but after having watched NC demolish NC state last night, I think at this point the three top ACC teams would crush our top 3 of BC, Syracuse, and Pitt/UConn. Anyone who watched the game last night would agree, NC looked like an NBA team. They absolutely shredded State. The 6-1 Big East vs. ACC stat is nice, but misleading. As far as I can remember, most of those victories were against Clemson, Virginia, and NC state. Not exactly the cream of the crop. The top three of the ACC are really good, and its going to take tourney time for the Big East to prove itself as the best conference in the country. Until then, the ACC is king. Duke is not a premier team. They lost to a mediocre team in Maryland. They had a non-conference schedule were they only played one away game. They have had soft ACC schedule so far, excluding Wake Forest. They are not a premier team this year. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 4, 2005 9:49:21 GMT -5
...and the influence of the BE influx: Plenty of Middle Ground in ACC
Success of Miami, Virginia Tech Clouds Conference's NCAA Picture
By Eric Prisbell
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 4, 2005; Page D01 www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61828-2005Feb3.html...success of VT and Miami may keep some of the old guard out of the tournament... |
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Post by mplshoya on Feb 4, 2005 9:50:26 GMT -5
Duke is not a premier team. They lost to a mediocre team in Maryland. They had a non-conference schedule were they only played one away game. They have had soft ACC schedule so far, excluding Wake Forest. They are not a premier team this year. You are right about their schedule to some extent, but beating Michigan State and Oklahoma (at Oklahoma) was impressive.. They look dangerous. Are they better than NC or Wake? No. Are they better than BC. Yes, definitely. Are they better than Cuse, I think so, but with less certainty. In any case, their next 3 games against GT, UNC, and a Maryland rematch will prove me right or wrong. |
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Post by mplshoya on Feb 4, 2005 9:52:13 GMT -5
My bad, Duke played OK in NYC (not in Oklahoma). Still a good victory though
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Post by Boz on Feb 4, 2005 10:02:00 GMT -5
This entire thread is nauseating.
BLEEECCCCHHHH!!!
You - we - are fans of a Big East school. Period. Ipso Fatso, the ACC sucks. No argument. No discussion. And no goddam beef jerky. The ACC sucks. Plain and simple.
Duke? Sucks.
Wake? Sucks.
UNC? Sucks.
Maryland? Oh, they really suck. I mean, I've seen teams suck before, but they're the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.
It's not jealousy. It's not envy. Our conference is better than theirs. Per. I. Od.
Man, this is why the Big East-ACC Challenge needs to come back. We can't have this "The ACC is sooo talented..." kind of discussion going on. Some may have forgotten. The ACC-Big East Challenge will remind them.
Repeat after me: The ACC sucks. The ACC sucks. The ACC sucks.
Say that every morning when you get up and every night when you go to bed.
Always remember, you can't spell nutsacck without ACC.
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 4, 2005 10:04:10 GMT -5
Amen brother Boz, amen. There is no ACC-BE challenge because they are afraid that they would be exposed.
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Post by mplshoya on Feb 4, 2005 10:05:23 GMT -5
This entire thread is nauseating. BLEEECCCCHHHH!!! You - we - are fans of a Big East school. Period. Ipso Fatso, the ACC sucks. No argument. No discussion. And no goddam beef jerky. The ACC sucks. Plain and simple. Duke? Sucks. Wake? Sucks. UNC? Sucks. Maryland? Oh, they really suck. I mean, I've seen teams suck before, but they're the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked. It's not jealousy. It's not envy. Our conference is better than theirs. Per. I. Od. Man, this is why the Big East-ACC Challenge needs to come back. We can't have this "The ACC is sooo talented..." kind of discussion going on. Some may have forgotten. The ACC-Big East Challenge will remind them. Repeat after me: The ACC sucks. The ACC sucks. The ACC sucks. Say that every morning when you get up and every night when you go to bed. Always remember, you can't spell nutsacck without ACC. well played boz, well played. The ACC sucks. But not as much as the Big Ten. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 4, 2005 10:15:16 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 4, 2005 11:32:16 GMT -5
Duke had their minor league schedule at the start of the season. They now have two games against Georgia Tech, two against North Carolina and one against Maryland and Wake Forest. Let's see how good they are in that stretch.
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Post by GUMBA on Feb 4, 2005 13:45:51 GMT -5
"Much of what was expected from the vaunted ACC has held to form as the conference reaches the midpoint of its first season using an unbalanced schedule. The surprises? Miami and Virginia Tech -- the two schools that just joined the ACC."
So let me get this straight. The ACC is so good that the two bottom dwellers of the Big East who were picked to finish last in the ACC perseason poll have been miraculously elevated just by being in the best conference in the country. Could it be that the overall quality of the ACC was not as great as everyone thought?
North Carolina Coach Roy Williams -- "The only teams we are being beaten by now are teams in our league. I still think the ACC is the best in the country."
Err, umm I wasn't talking about Providence beating up on an ACC team the other night. Every conference is in the midst of playing and beating the other teams in their resepctive conference right now. Silly quote.
Maryland, Virginia, and NC State -- If I'm not mistaken, at the beginning of the season some people were actually making the argument that as many as 8 ACC teams would make the NCAA tournament this year including these three teams.
ACC Pre-Season Poll 1st-Place Votes Pts
1. Wake Forest (65)
2. North Carolina (13)
3. Georgia Tech (10)
4. Duke (3)
5. NC State
6. Maryland
7. Florida State
8. Virginia
9. Clemson
10. Virginia Tech
11. Miami
NC State has gotten killed out of conference. Maryland and Virginia haven't done too well either. Fact of the matter is, when you get past the top four teams, they aren't that great of a conference. The top two teams are excellent -- no doubt. But a superconference they are not. The ACC lovefest has got to stop.
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