lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 3, 2005 0:25:33 GMT -5
nodak i meant you wer hot like getting hot or close to the secret thats all not lichoya talk just close to the answer just plain and simple thats it not a deep meaning just tha facts no lichoya special meaning ok go hoyas beat the not so hot literally scarlet knights and i mean not so hot bball team but DANGEROUS at the racccccccccccc
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 3, 2005 0:26:53 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyabliu on Feb 3, 2005 0:35:09 GMT -5
I don't like this whole "band hating" thing going on hahah... I'm a member of the band, and while I did first join the band to continue playing my instrument, I assure you that I, and many of the other band members, are some of the most LOYAL and hardcore GU basketball fans you will find. Look, we are just as much a part of the "student section" as any of the other students. You guys make it sound like we're not students ourselves and not cheering on the basketball team like everyone else does. We read these boards just like the rest of you! haha
Personally, I think we generate just as much, if not more (at times), noise than any other students. Whenever I look back at the rest of the student section, I hardly see any students cheering aside from when we make a basket. And this doesn't just pertain to organized chants. I can understand that it's hard for people in the back to get into organized chants because sound doesn't carry very well, but most students don't even put much effort into spontaenously cheering and generating noise in general.
Our "purpose" is not solely to play our instruments during timeouts and sound nice (...), we're there to cheer on the team like everyone else! So stop making us seem like such an expendable and unecessary group. Whenever the dance team or groove theory perform during time outs and half time, they get front row seats for the duration of the game. I don't see people arguing about that...
GO BAND! GO HOYAS!
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Post by Fan Of The Game on Feb 3, 2005 0:37:18 GMT -5
nodak i meant you wer hot like getting hot or close to the secret thats all not lichoya talk just close to the answer just plain and simple thats it not a deep meaning just tha facts no lichoya special meaning ok go hoyas beat the not so hot literally scarlet knights and i mean not so hot bball team but DANGEROUS at the racccccccccccc I think the real hint was in Lic's post in the ACC versus Big East thread: "IVE ALWAYS BEEN A MORE EMOTIONAL ANAYLST IN MORE WAYS THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE GO HOYAS THIS IS BIG"
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 3, 2005 0:54:21 GMT -5
I don't like this whole "band hating" thing going on hahah... I'm a member of the band, and while I did first join the band to continue playing my instrument, I assure you that I, and many of the other band members, are some of the most LOYAL and hardcore GU basketball fans you will find. Look, we are just as much a part of the "student section" as any of the other students. You guys make it sound like we're not students ourselves and not cheering on the basketball team like everyone else does. We read these boards just like the rest of you! haha Personally, I think we generate just as much, if not more (at times), noise than any other students. Whenever I look back at the rest of the student section, I hardly see any students cheering aside from when we make a basket. And this doesn't just pertain to organized chants. I can understand that it's hard for people in the back to get into organized chants because sound doesn't carry very well, but most students don't even put much effort into spontaenously cheering and generating noise in general. Our "purpose" is not solely to play our instruments during timeouts and sound nice (...), we're there to cheer on the team like everyone else! So stop making us seem like such an expendable and unecessary group. Whenever the dance team or groove theory perform during time outs and half time, they get front row seats for the duration of the game. I don't see people arguing about that... GO BAND! GO HOYAS! Just out of curiousity, do we still play Jesus Christ Superstar after a win? And to slightly needle a bit (and all in good fun), do we still play the fastest version of "You Can Call Me Al" in history?
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Post by Fan Of The Game on Feb 3, 2005 1:01:26 GMT -5
Yes.
Though until you just said it I wasn't sure we played it after every game...but now that you have I recall having been happily humming it on my way home from many a Hoya game.
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 3, 2005 1:04:28 GMT -5
Just out of curiousity, do we still play Jesus Christ Superstar after a win? And to slightly needle a bit (and all in good fun), do we still play the fastest version of "You Can Call Me Al" in history? Ever since we got the new conductor we stopped playing both of those regularly. We would often play the intro to Jesus Christ Superstar before student fan of the game, but then they stopped doing that at the end of the game. We just started playing the whole song again a couple weeks ago. I can't even remember the last time we played you can call me al though.
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Post by Hoyabliu on Feb 3, 2005 1:10:49 GMT -5
Just out of curiousity, do we still play Jesus Christ Superstar after a win? And to slightly needle a bit (and all in good fun), do we still play the fastest version of "You Can Call Me Al" in history? Yes and Yes hahah..although we don't play "You Can Call me Al" that often anymore and no one's around to hear us play "Jesus Christ Superstar" in the end. Regarding NYCHoyas argument, I can understand where you are coming from. But, we want to be apart of the student section just as much as everyone else! You make it sound like we should be moved away from where most (not all) of the noise is generated. That completely separates us from the "student" atmosphere and, although this might seem selfish, I don't really think that's fair to us! And while that may be your argument, I don't get the same feeling from the other posters, especially Cashew who seems to be harboring some ill-will towards the band or something. Stop comparing us to the middle school players! It's your absolutely offensive and idiotic comments saying that we "dont' reallly contribute much" that really Editedes me off. GO BAND! GO HOYAS!
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Feb 3, 2005 1:17:28 GMT -5
(EDIT: CAHoya--either we're talking about different sets of girls, or there's some serious difference of opinion here. Probably the former, since we sit on opposite sides of our rows and its unlikely we'd have noticed the same people. But if you'd sat next to the ones I did, you'd want to shoot yourself. I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same girls. All I know is that they were cheering loudly and into the game when I saw them. Maybe I just didn't notice them leaving periodically or throwing elbows at you, my bad.
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 3, 2005 1:23:22 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same girls. All I know is that they were cheering loudly and into the game when I saw them. Maybe I just didn't notice them leaving periodically or throwing elbows at you, my bad. Either way, one game all you front row kids should come hang out with me in the gauntlet that is the 3rd-7th row zone. It's a rough and tumble world "back there". I WISH I had all that free space and people I knew around me...I'm going to start packing brass knuckles one of these days.*** (***and given 007's sudden proclivity for threatening to throw down, maybe you should to CA )
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Post by CAHoya07 on Feb 3, 2005 1:24:03 GMT -5
And by the way, as far as the band goes, I think they can be a little better (louder and more members), but on the whole I really enjoy them. They really do get a lot of cheers going, and if it wasn't for them at women's basketball games, the place would be as silent as a library. They play some nice contemporary rap songs too to keep it fresh. It would just be nice if they could actually lead more cheers with their songs. Coordination is not one of the strongest aspects of the student section or Georgetown in general.
It would be nice to have both bottom sections open to students, but I wouldn't where to put the band then.
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Post by TheCashew05 on Feb 3, 2005 1:35:35 GMT -5
Band members- no one's questioning your devotion to the team. I just offered up some frank observations from my experiences at games- and I've been to a fair amount in my time, whether upfront or in the back, so no need to get up in arms about it. We're all devoted fans here.
My comments were meant as a suggestion that I think would create a more organized, compact, and vocal student section. You can pack more students into the space than band members and maybe we could reduce the ridiculous size of the walkway coming down to the court. The MCI staff who won't let people stand there annoy me more than anything else. I don't know of many other schools that have the band directly up front from my experience and I wouldn't mind following suit.
Honestly, would it hurt to move the band over or up a bit? You'd still be an integral part of the game and we might be able to actually make some noise in MCI.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Feb 3, 2005 1:37:11 GMT -5
You can't move the band off the court. No one is going to want to sit in front of the band because of the shear magnitude of the sound. The only operable option I see is to move them to a side of the arena.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 3, 2005 1:41:48 GMT -5
You can't move the band off the court. No one is going to want to sit in front of the band because of the shear magnitude of the sound. The only operable option I see is to move them to a side of the arena. That's not true-at the University of Minnesota, for bball and hockey, the bands are in the back of the student section. People sit in front of them. Whether or not the percussion can be moved off the floor is a different question-I know that the Minnesota bands don't have a full drum set (they have marching band drums-I have no idea what they're called, but they aren't snare or bass drums, and they're used in marching bands)
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 3, 2005 1:49:00 GMT -5
Band members- no one's questioning your devotion to the team. I love how you're totally covering yourself now. When you said "The band doesn't really contribute much right now, as I see it." you were questioning our devotion and our worth at the games. I would have no problem with the band being moved over, but it will never happen since then we'd be taking non-student section seats away. However, you were talking about moving us back in your previous posts which is aboslutely absurd. Next time you go to a game actually watch the band and you'll see that we're just as passionate as the rest of the student section.
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Post by jmac on Feb 3, 2005 1:49:40 GMT -5
honestly as far as i'm concerned the band has no chance at competing with loud and rowdy fans ... maybe they're bound by their strict affiliation to the school but they are not loud ... they never cheer loud and cannot compare to some diehard fans who could and would easily fill their seats ... seriously i've never seen them start or carry any chant
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 3, 2005 1:52:14 GMT -5
And by the way, as far as the band goes, I think they can be a little better (louder and more members), but on the whole I really enjoy them. I definitely agree, I wish the band was bigger. Over the last couple years the interest in the band has gone down since the overall interest in the team was low. This month alone our attendance at men's games has nearly doubled. Hopefully next year there will be more people in it.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Feb 3, 2005 1:53:56 GMT -5
On the band, I think you guys have gotten a lot better over the past few years. It speaks to the quality of your director and the time/energy that you guys put in.
I think GU needs to consider the merits of offering scholarships or some sort of stipend/academic credit to those students who are members of the band. It is a serious commitment.
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 3, 2005 1:56:52 GMT -5
You can pack more students into the space than band members and maybe we could reduce the ridiculous size of the walkway coming down to the court. The MCI staff who won't let people stand there annoy me more than anything else. I don't know of many other schools that have the band directly up front from my experience and I wouldn't mind following suit. Trust me, as someone who sits on that aisle, I'm glad the MCI ushers are there, and I wish they'd do a better job than they do. No problem with people who are actually in those rows getting some extra arm room and moving out in the aisle. But every game, they must turn away close to 50 people I'd say who start showing up half an hour into the game trying to "crash" the front of the student section. And they're the ones that get annoying when they try and stand in the aisle. Because then they're trying to move into your row that's already full, or they're squeezing you in from the aisles. And so the seat you legitimately have suddenly is like half a seat, and then you're the one getting pushed into the aisle and harrassed by the staff. Not to mention the rows that are two-deep with the crashers that you can't see over. If you didn't get a seat down there before the game started, there aren't any open ones after the game starts. So don't waste your time. Honestly, it's more of a self-policing thing and a bunch of bad apples (these mostly aren't the good fans doing this, trust me I end up sitting near most of them). I like the band and think they're good at what they do and building spirit in the section better than most students. But I also agree it's worth a thought whether opening up those seats and giving students more access to close-up seats might help with this problem. One other school that has their band in the back that I saw tonight--Wake Forest.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 3, 2005 2:00:23 GMT -5
honestly as far as i'm concerned the band has no chance at competing with loud and rowdy fans ... maybe they're bound by their strict affiliation to the school but they are not loud ... they never cheer loud and cannot compare to some diehard fans who could and would easily fill their seats ... seriously i've never seen them start or carry any chant Our only restrictions are we're not allowed to drink or swear. And if you honestly believe that we never cheer loud then either you don't go to enough games or you don't pay attention at the ones you're at. Sure there's a few that don't get into the game, but for the most part the band members are just as loud as any other students. This is from my friend the asian kid who sits behind the couch and yells for people to be loud all the time to no avail... "instead of criticizing the band, you can spend your energy trying to get the back-most 40 rows of the student section to make a little more than a peep... they dont even attempt to make noise, even if uncoordinated with the front... they are literally worthless if you're just coming to the game to be seen, go home, because you make us look terrible on national tv when we have a sizable student crowd but little to no noise even the kids in the 3rd row were basically silent even when SHU got within 6 with 3 min to go... that's inexcusable... why even come if you're not going to get into the game? and the worst was when those kids behind me started chanting defense when we had the ball... they did it for about 5 seconds until i turned around and yelled, we have the ball, Editeds... pay attention so save your words for the band and direct your energy elsewhere where it is needed... i dont need hundred of mutes behind me at every home sitting on their hands and clapping twice whenever we make a basket... just watch the game on tv"
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