richfame
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Post by richfame on Dec 29, 2008 22:44:27 GMT -5
FOr the past 4 months on this board ive said how overrated UCONN is and how they have no heart. Alot of people on here said i was nuts and didnt know what i was talking about. Well now i think everyone knows what i was talking about.
You guys know who you were who were saying how tough this was going to be and how near impossible it was going to be to win. I feel good for guys like daytona and sleepy on here that never gave up and stAyed confident like I was. Being from ct as ive said before i know what the home crowed was saying and they feared this game. Im soooo happy we won.
I jut got home from the game here are my keys
1. tempo control was perfect, we ran when we wanted to and slowed it down and ran teh offense to perfection when it was called for 2. ft shoot was aweesome. 3. 3pt shooting was awesome 4. monroe totlaly outclassed thabbett as i said thabbet is a poor mans POPA. At least with popa you had that cool p o p a chant right. 5. as i said uconn are a but of heartless thugs that will never win a big game. I HATE to say i told you so but there ya go. 6. uconn cant hit a jumper
Just a great win i never felt so good ever. HO HOYAS
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 29, 2008 23:00:47 GMT -5
Don't underestimate YouCon. I agree, though, that we played really well!
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 29, 2008 23:07:34 GMT -5
FOr the past 4 months on this board ive said how overrated UCONN is and how they have no heart. Alot of people on here said i was nuts and didnt know what i was talking about. Well now i think everyone knows what i was talking about. You guys know who you were who were saying how tough this was going to be and how near impossible it was going to be to win. I feel good for guys like daytona and sleepy on here that never gave up and stAyed confident like I was. Being from ct as ive said before i know what the home crowed was saying and they feared this game. Im soooo happy we won. I jut got home from the game here are my keys 1. tempo control was perfect, we ran when we wanted to and slowed it down and ran teh offense to perfection when it was called for 2. ft shoot was aweesome. 3. 3pt shooting was awesome 4. monroe totlaly outclassed thabbett as i said thabbet is a poor mans POPA. At least with popa you had that cool p o p a chant right. 5. as i said uconn are a but of heartless thugs that will never win a big game. I HATE to say i told you so but there ya go. 6. uconn cant hit a jumper Just a great win i never felt so good ever. HO HOYAS I don't think UCONN is overrated as much as they are searching for the right chemistry and team composition. A couple of thoughts on it - 1. You don't want Adrien to be the focal point or a focal point on any team with championship aspirations. He's a starter, no doubt, but should be a role player for them and not relied upon to generate scoring. He scores off of misses and boards mostly, and, for a scoring team, you would rather see makes than putbacks. 2. Price is not the play maker on that team. Calhoun needs to hand the ball to Walker or even Austrie and run some drive and kick to give Price more space and to give Dyson extra room since he is pretty much a spot shooter. 3. I liked the energy that Robinson showed in spots tonight. His problem is that he is not overly skilled. He'd be my sixth man.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Dec 30, 2008 8:45:37 GMT -5
I've been saying the same thing for years about Thabeet and people kept saying "No, but he's really developed and he's going to be SO good!" And then last night happened. He's not. Other than blocking shots, he's no good at basketball.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 30, 2008 9:13:26 GMT -5
As I recall from the last time we had this thread, prior to last night who would YOU have ranked #2 if not UConn (obviously excluding Gtown and UNC)?? It's a rather soft year for college basketball: once you look past numero uno, there are quite a few teams more or less equally qualified for a top 10 ranking, including UConn this morning.
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Post by FOTP on Dec 30, 2008 9:20:34 GMT -5
UCONN is still very good. We just outplayed them last night.
The sooner they realize that Walker is the best guard on that team the better. he is really good and better than the rest.
Adrien and Thabeet are tough, but this is a guards game.
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Post by Filo on Dec 30, 2008 9:20:55 GMT -5
I don't buy the UConn is not that good line of thought. They had a bad game, thanks primarily to a great games plan lflawlessly executed by the Hoyas. UConn is going to be a tough out in the BE.
As far as Thabeet, he has come a long way. While not yet a great basketball player, he is amazingly fast for a guy his size -- for example, that play in which he recovered to block a layup by Freeman probably is not made by any other player in college basketball. And I wouldn't use this game as evidence that he is no good. Look at the way 'Nova took Roy out of games.
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Post by Boz on Dec 30, 2008 9:36:38 GMT -5
Not sure if UConn as a whole is overrated.
Kemba Walker sure is overrated though. (IMO)
Let's see, that's two pretty highly touted freshmen now looking like fools against Georgetown's defense. [snark] What are the odds? [/snark]
I'm not saying I saw this dominant win coming or anything but I was confident because of UConn's lack of discipline. And that's also why Pitt always worries me so much more than UConn or ND or Louisville. They are experienced, they are tough, they won't fall apart when some shots don't fall or someone goes on a run against them, and they are very well coached.
They may not have played anybody yet, but they are NOT overrated (again IMO). This is going to be a war.
Really want this win on Saturday.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 30, 2008 9:49:12 GMT -5
Wow, ridiculous thread of the day. UConn is a beast and has tons of talent. I thought we would lose by 8 to 10. It was a great game and we challenged them in ways they hadn't been challenged to date.
The big east is a monster and we are going to lose to some teams that will cause people to say the same thing about us. Just relax
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Dec 30, 2008 9:53:10 GMT -5
rosslyn hoya honestly i dont know who the true second best team in the country is. I just knew tht uconn was not a vintage team and didnt have the heart to make teh final four hence being a top 4 team in the end. Look at calhoons comments after the game appoligising for teh teams lack of EVERYTHING! Thats exactly what im talking about for 2 plus years now with this group of guys you dont know who is going to show up or if there going to do it in the big spot. In the off season he was on the mike francessa radio show in nyc and said this group of guys are an enigma and were the most frustrating team to coach at uconn ever. So dont take it from me take it from teh coachs mouth.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Dec 30, 2008 10:33:37 GMT -5
UConn is not overrated. Thats a good college team. Put them against UNC and its a toss up to who wins. The Hoyas have been underrated, even by me. I did not think they had reached the maturity level that they have. Still have a ways to go but the immediate future is bright. Pitt will pose a real problem. The Hoyas will not see much man-to-man. The game will be slower and more physical. Can't wait to see what JT3 game plan is for Blair, because he will be pushing Monroe all over the lane.
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 30, 2008 10:47:12 GMT -5
UConn's pretty good. But their really good win - at Gonzaga - looks less impressive now. Neither Wisconsin or Miami are great wins - they're what a top ten team should do.
Is UConn good? Yes. Are they ridiculously talented? Yes. Are they the best team in the country? Eh. They can play that way, but Georgetown beat them handily.
The question for me is whether UNC is good as advertised - they've struggled early against some pretty average teams (albeit before putting them away). They're very, very good, but I'm not ready to bet for them against the field.
What does all of the above mean? Two things. First, that the season is still too early to draw up title contenders and pretenders. Second, for me, all that matters is the six wins. UNC is definitely in place to get them. So is UConn. And so are the Hoyas.
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Post by hoyasexy on Dec 30, 2008 10:49:28 GMT -5
This game reminded me a lot of the 2001 Big East season opener against Seton Hall. Seton Hall came to that game with a very high ranking, mostly based on the early season play of Eddie Griffin. Sam Dalembert was their center (if you're looking for an NBA comparison for Thabeet, Dalembert is probably about as good as it gets). Hall played that game with no heart (although a little too much heart was demonstrated in the locker room afterwards), lost by a considerable margin and proceeded to tumble down the rankings for the rest of the year as the team repeatedly disappointed. I'm not sure I expect UConn to go into the same downward spiral, but I think richfame might have a point. This game definitely exposed them.
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Post by dungeon ball on Dec 30, 2008 10:59:00 GMT -5
Not sure if UConn is overrated, but I am more concerned about Pitt at home than I was for UConn on the road...
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Post by dungeon ball on Dec 30, 2008 11:02:09 GMT -5
This game reminded me a lot of the 2001 Big East season opener against Seton Hall. Seton Hall came to that game with a very high ranking, mostly based on the early season play of Eddie Griffin. Sam Dalembert was their center (if you're looking for an NBA comparison for Thabeet, Dalembert is probably about as good as it gets). Hall played that game with no heart (although a little too much heart was demonstrated in the locker room afterwards), lost by a considerable margin and proceeded to tumble down the rankings for the rest of the year as the team repeatedly disappointed. I'm not sure I expect UConn to go into the same downward spiral, but I think richfame might have a point. This game definitely exposed them. I was thinking about that similarity as well. Here's to hoping that we don't repeat what we did later that week. Losing to Pitt at home. I believe that Julius Page (could be wrong) had an embarrassing dunk on Ruben... Only reason I remember that is because he took away ESPN's dunk of the week honor's from Demetrius nasty slam on Eddie Griffin.
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Post by GUJook97 on Dec 30, 2008 11:14:50 GMT -5
Wow, I dont see that similarity at all. That was a vastly overrated Seton Hall team, if I recall. And, they were ranked in the teens at the time. That was a game I fully expected us to win. We beat the #2 team in the country on the road.
No offense, but I dont buy what some of you guys are selling. UConn is very, very good. We just came out, punched them in the face, and never looked back. No doubt we caught a good team off guard.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 30, 2008 11:22:45 GMT -5
We beat UConn like a drum.
Are they overrated? Maybe.
But we took advantage of their weakness by hitting them hard and fast and not letting up.
In 2005-06, UConn was overrated in the same way. They still killed us and still went to the Elite Eight.
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Post by RDF on Dec 30, 2008 12:10:04 GMT -5
Maybe Georgetown was a bit underrated? Maybe it's just the Big East where great programs play and you see who executes better in end? I don't care how Hoyas are perceived because III/Team will prove it to everyone.
I DO care how Big East is perceived and this "love" is ridiculous this season. It's like this EVERY SEASON and I think UConn is a great team and actually thought Kemba Walker was Huskies best guard last night. He had a few garbage hoops late in game but he's a wonderful talent and played hard.
Guys it's ONE GAME--be it a huge win--but we need to take the approach of III and get ready for Pitt--who will be another load on Saturday. That is what makes the Big East, THE BEST!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 30, 2008 12:13:34 GMT -5
Walker commits way to many turnovers.
I can't tell if AJ Price isn't back from his injury or that if the Huskies aren't funneling the ball to the guy, but he was their best offensive player last year and against Gonzaga.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 30, 2008 12:43:02 GMT -5
Uconn isn't overrated. They have tons of talent.
We're just underrated, by the media, by other teams and by our own fanbase.
I agree with the poster who said Calhoun needs to give the ball to Walker. He's they're best point guard by far. He needs to insert him into the lineup, slide Price to the two, Dyson to the three and bring Austrie off the bench. He's done this before when Al-Amin was a freshman and he benched an upperclassman in Rashmael Jones. So I know he's experienced in cutting a seniors throat for a freshman. It was warranted then, it's warranted now.
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