2008 College Football In-Season Thread!

[RDF]

Mediocre game--but hard played. Knew those missed opportunities were going to haunt Oklahoma in First half--but they played much closer then I expected and showed more heart/competitiveness then their last trip to Miami with what I felt was a more talented team.

BTW, FOX, we get it--Tebow is a great kid and college player. I'm watching the game--not worrying about what others say about him. Geez. This propoganda makes Hansbrough look underpublicized.

OU has lost their last 5 BCS games. Big XII South lays a major egg in bowls. The "high powered" offenses stunk against superior athletes and only Texas--who was the BEST TEAM IN LEAGUE won their bowl game--albeit against a very average Ohio State team.

I'm for UTAH getting AP vote---and just wish there was a better way to decide the sport we all love--but so be it.

[hoya95]

It was a close game, but I didn't think it was a very good one. Sloppy at best. Florida is the better team, and Oklahoma's defense was bound to wear down. So it just took longer to reach the inevitable.
I know it's almost a cliche to bash announcers, but that was the absolute worst job I've ever heard. Did Brennaman propose to Tim Tebow yet? Does anyone in the booth know what down it is? Truly horrible. Can I buy my Utah 2009 National Champions t-shirt online somewhere?

[RDF]

Jan 9, 2009 0:42:20 GMT -5 hoya95 said:

It was a close game, but I didn't think it was a very good one. Sloppy at best. Florida is the better team, and Oklahoma's defense was bound to wear down. So it just took longer to reach the inevitable.
I know it's almost a cliche to bash announcers, but that was the absolute worst job I've ever heard. Did Brennaman propose to Tim Tebow yet? Does anyone in the booth know what down it is? Truly horrible. Can I buy my Utah 2009 National Champions t-shirt online somewhere?

;D at your comment on announcers and Brennaman is an embarrassment to this sport. Get someone in the booth who does the games all year and distance yourself from the damn NFL. CFB fans dont' want their sport or their game looking, sounding, or covered as if it's the NFL.

OU defense gave up their average today--and I thought that was impressive showing for Venables in a big game.

[HoyaFanNY]

congrats to florida. with tebow and that defense back, we'll be saying the same thing next year. for me, the game was over in the first half when OU got a big fat zero from two second quarter drives inside the florida 10. tebow's mistakes early gave them a chance to take control and they failed miserably. it was only a matter of time before the florida offense woke up.

[BuffaloHoya]

I watched most of the beginning and all of the end, but there was a stretch in that boring middle where I, too, was watching several things at once. And when I was watching the game, it was pretty dull.

I was driving to lunch the other day and heard Rome (ugh, I know... but that's all that's on around that time) say something along the lines of "this year's BCS title game is the most underhyped, unanticipated game in years" which he attributed partly to the likes of USC, Texas and Utah making the BCS look bad.

Well, the game - in my opinion - lived down to the hype. I'm hoping the AP does the right thing, votes someone else #1, and gives this useless BCS system another kick in the junk.

All that said, congrats to Florida, USC, Utah, Texas as well as Ohio State, Penn State, Alabama and the other schools on strong seasons.

[hoyainspirit]

Jan 9, 2009 0:30:46 GMT -5 RDF said:

BTW, FOX, we get it--Tebow is a great kid and college player. I'm watching the game--not worrying about what others say about him. Geez. This propoganda makes Hansbrough look underpublicized.

Man, do I agree with this! It was nauseating. I kept waiting for "Tim Tebow! What a player! What a man!"

[CAHoya07]

Florida #1 in AP, Utah #2, followed by USC and Texas. Utah did receive 16 first place votes, to Florida's 48. USC got one.

sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3820715

sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

I did not watch the game, only saw and heard brief parts of the first half while having dinner at Tombs. I wonder what the ratings will look like for this game. With the BCS controversy and general under-hype for this game, I imagine the numbers will be lower than recent years. Which would be fantastic, and put more pressure on the BCS to develop a playoff system.

[BuffaloHoya]

Jan 9, 2009 9:51:57 GMT -5 CAHoya07 said:

Florida #1 in AP, Utah #2, followed by USC and Texas. Utah did receive 16 first place votes, to Florida's 48. USC got one.

sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3820715

sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

I did not watch the game, only saw and heard brief parts of the first half while having dinner at Tombs. I wonder what the ratings will look like for this game. With the BCS controversy and general under-hype for this game, I imagine the numbers will be lower than recent years. Which would be fantastic, and put more pressure on the BCS to develop a playoff system.

The 20-20 sports update on our local radio just said the rating was over a 17! People tuned in...

... but the BCS still stinks to high heaven. No way you can tell me Florida is better than Utah is better than USC is better than Texas or any combination thereof.

[hoyarooter]

The better team won, but Oklahoma kept it closer than I expected, which actually made the game better than I expected. I was figuring the game would be over by halftime, and Florida didn't wrap it up until the last few minutes, so kudos to the Oklahoma defense for keeping it close.

I watched most of the first half on my computer at work through the Foxsports feed, which was a somewhat disorienting experience. There was no sound except crowd noise, so since I was occasionally forced to glance away to attend to other things, I couldn't keep track of the downs, yardage to go, etc. But it still beat not being able to see the game at all, and based on the comments above on the announcers, it probably beat watching the game on Fox.

Put an asterisk by Oklahoma's pont scoring record this year, with the note "accomplished solely against second rate defenses (except TCU)."

And of course, I share everyone's view on the need for a playoff.

I'm surprised hifi hasn't posted yet. He must be lying drunk in a ditch somewhere.

[Filo]

Yeah, no surprise with the outcome. UF's D is pretty young, and they are going to be very tough next year, also.

I still can't believe that the announcing team for such a big game was so horrible. Is it just me, or was that very first hit by Wright along the sidelines pass interference? He nailed the guy before the ball made it to him, but the announcers didn't even mention that it was questionable. Then they had the '4th down when it was only the third down' fiasco. Given that, once their Hansborough treatment of Tebow started in earnest, I just couldn't listen anymore.

[BuffaloHoya]

Jan 9, 2009 12:52:39 GMT -5 Filo said:

Yeah, no surprise with the outcome. UF's D is pretty young, and they are going to be very tough next year, also.

I still can't believe that the announcing team for such a big game was so horrible. Is it just me, or was that very first hit by Wright along the sidelines pass interference? He nailed the guy before the ball made it to him, but the announcers didn't even mention that it was questionable. Then they had the '4th down when it was only the third down' fiasco. Given that, once their Hansborough treatment of Tebow started in earnest, I just couldn't listen anymore.

Along those lines, I'm pretty happy MsBuffaloHoya fell asleep during the game... it "forced" me to put the broadcast on mute and just enjoy some football.

I really like Tebow, but the slurping of him is FAR beyond unbiased, responsible broadcasting. Worse than I've ever seen it for Basketball Jesus, and it has to stop.

[badgerhoya]

Jan 9, 2009 13:09:31 GMT -5 BuffaloHoya said:

I really like Tebow, but the slurping of him is FAR beyond unbiased, responsible broadcasting. Worse than I've ever seen it for Basketball Jesus, and it has to stop.

Totally agree on this. I couldn't help but think during the broadcast (which I also had on mute) was the Tebow was Deuce McCalister w/a slightly better arm. I mean, I was thoroughly unimpressed w/him as a quarterback.

[RDF]

Can we also just prevent Oklahoma from getting into anymore BCS games? They had the most "dominant" team in history of CFB in '03 and lost 2 games and take a look at the scores they put in BCS Title Games:

Win over FSU--13 to 2 (game Miami should've been in but BCS screwed up by taking FSU over Miami--not OU's fault--for once)

Loss to LSU--21-14 (game #1 in BOTH polls USC should've been in against LSU--BCS screwed up)

Loss to USC--55-19 (game that Auburn should've been instead of OU---BCS Screwed Up)

Loss to UF--24-14 (game that Utah, Texas, USC, or College of Homeless Warriors should've been in--BCS Screwed Up)

Common themes that show up from this:

1. Oklahoma gets every break in computer system
2. They aren't worthy of those breaks
3. If Miami is in place of FSU in 2000 Title game--Stoops has no rings.
4. TIME FOR A FRIGGING PLAYOFF.

[RDF]

Tom Brennaman's most disgusting comment last night

"If you spend 5 minutes with Tim Tebow, your life will be changed forever". Are you EXPLETIVE KIDDING ME?

Then the talk of him being among the "Greatest college football players of all time".

Okay, I'm going to put this out there and it's not a slam against Tebow as much as this trend of "greatest of all time" stuff from media about players/teams in this new culture of over dramatizing EVERYTHING.

Tebow has been a starter at Florida for 2 years. He has a National Title as a Starter, and a Heisman Trophy as a Starter. He's also lost 5 games in his 2 years as a Starting QB--which in this decade is 1 more then Matt Leinart and Ken Dorsey COMBINED in their 5 years of starting at USC and Miami. Vince Young was a better college player then Tebow in this decade. Reggie Bush was a better player then Tebow in this decade. Adrian Peterson was a better player, so I think you get the point. On his own team, I think Percy Harvin is a better player and more deserving of the MVP last night then Tebow.

Now I said 4 years ago--Tebow is perfect fit for Meyer's offense which I detest. I hate single wing football and find it boring, but understand why teams use it and college coach's job is to win games in CFB--not prepare people for NFL. I get it. That said--the kid has great leadership ability and is a tough player. Like the effort and think what he does off the field is great. Good ambassador for sport and all but the perspective is way out of hand. If you lose 6 games in your 3 year career--(National Titles-2 and Heisman included) that does NOT make you the best player or one of the best ever. This isn't CBB--it's CFB and if anything--this is reflective of what a mess the system is that a player is singled out when we can't even find a way to judge who the TRUE best teams are--and he's proclaimed one of the best players to EVER play the sport? Ridiculous. He's a fine player--but based on how he's perceived by media-VASTLY OVERRATED.

Thing is--he'll be back next year if you see the "mighty" Gators schedule next year. God almighty--their non conference games are:

Charleston Southern--the same team Hifi went off on Miami for playing this year.
Troy--
Florida International or Florida Atlantic--forget which one
FSU--only because they have to.

With a schedule like this---and the typically overhyped "toughness" of SEC--which is a good league but acts as if they are 100 levels above everyone else--we can expect Football "Jesus" to be back in Pasadena next year with Heisman in hand and going for right to have Heisman re-named the "Tebow" with a statue of him waving his arms to the crowd after a 8 yard QB draw.

[AustinHoya03]

Jan 9, 2009 13:50:27 GMT -5 RDF said:

Can we also just prevent Oklahoma from getting into anymore BCS games? They had the most "dominant" team in history of CFB in '03 and lost 2 games and take a look at the scores they put in BCS Title Games:

Win over FSU--13 to 2 (game Miami should've been in but BCS screwed up by taking FSU over Miami--not OU's fault--for once)

Loss to LSU--21-14 (game #1 in BOTH polls USC should've been in against LSU--BCS screwed up)

Loss to USC--55-19 (game that Auburn should've been instead of OU---BCS Screwed Up)

Loss to UF--24-14 (game that Utah, Texas, USC, or College of Homeless Warriors should've been in--BCS Screwed Up)

Common themes that show up from this:

1. Oklahoma gets every break in computer system
2. They aren't worthy of those breaks
3. If Miami is in place of FSU in 2000 Title game--Stoops has no rings.
4. TIME FOR A FRIGGING PLAYOFF.

It was pointed out on one of the Texas blogs today that tOSU's big-game reputation was seriously stained by 2 National Championship losses, yet a near-identical and lengthier pattern by OU has miraculously not affected the Sooners' rep similarly.

Re: the announcing last night (and the MSM's fawning over Tebow throughout the season), one reason it was disappointing was that (as Buff said) Tebow's actually likeable if you are able to separate his play from all the excessive hype. And if you thought the hype was bad this season, just wait for August '09 to roll around...

[Boz]

Since when has tOSU had a big game reputation?

[HeartAttackHoya]

if mccoy, bradford and tebow all come back the amount of slurpage in college football will give the Red light district a run for its money

[Nevada Hoya]

hifi, congratulations on being #2 in the nation.

[FLHoya]

Jan 9, 2009 15:46:48 GMT -5 Boz said:

Since when has tOSU had a big game reputation?

The 20 minutes after Terry Porter threw the flag for pass interference.

Why can't we just take the extra BCS game created not long ago and use it annually to slot Ohio State and Oklahoma against each other, granting that "well, if we HAVE to take you guys...might as well not let you ruin a perfectly good game".

What's that? We do this sort of thing already? It's called the Orange Bowl you say?

[hoyarooter]

Jan 9, 2009 17:18:40 GMT -5 FLHoya said:

Jan 9, 2009 15:46:48 GMT -5 Boz said:

Since when has tOSU had a big game reputation?

The 20 minutes after Terry Porter threw the flag for pass interference.

Why can't we just take the extra BCS game created not long ago and use it annually to slot Ohio State and Oklahoma against each other, granting that "well, if we HAVE to take you guys...might as well not let you ruin a perfectly good game".

What's that? We do this sort of thing already? It's called the Orange Bowl you say?

This is a fantastic idea. Let's introduce a new bowl (no big deal there, since there are already 26,281 bowl games) and call it the Ohio State/Oklahoma Bowl. Every year tOSU will play OU, and those two teams will be disqualified from playing in any other bowl games. Good times!