lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 11, 2008 19:25:06 GMT -5
chris needs to and will get more under control he DID win the mcdonalds threepoint shooting contest i believe over supposedly the best high school three point shooter IN THE FREAKING COUNTRY no?? also hes quick on o and on defense very very quick.. he can drive needs to modify vs big east but he DID DO IT VS. LIKE THREE OR FOUR PROS FOLKS NOT little sisters of the poor and yes both he an jason will play alot they were GREAT TOGETHER ON THE FAST BREAKGREAT GREAT GREAT QUICK BOTH D BOTH CAN SCORE AND SHOOT AND HECK THEY ARE BOTH HOYAS AN PLAY FOR US AND A GREAT COACH WHO WILL TEACH THEM YOUNGINS SO IM STILL FREAKING EXCITED CALL US NUMBER NINE IN THE BIG EAST GO AHEAD JUST DARE THE HOYAS JUST DARE EM DONT NEED TO CHOSE BETWEEN OUR GUARDS WE NEED ALL THREE JESSE.. JASON ADN CHRIS WITH SOME HELP FROM AUSIN TOO SOMETIMES NEED EM ALL GO HOYAS GO YOUNGINS IM FREAKING EXCITED YUP GLAD WITH WITH I SAW FROM ALL THIS SUMMER VERY GALD AND PLEASED YUP
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Post by justabballfan on Aug 11, 2008 20:32:54 GMT -5
Guys, never meant to bash Wright in my post, just wanted to pass on an unbiased professional opinion on the kid.
I know some people that post on here might think their are "experts", but I'll take the opinion of a guy that does it for a living, over some guy that has 4k posts on a message board.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 11, 2008 20:45:01 GMT -5
Guys, never meant to bash Wright in my post, just wanted to pass on an unbiased professional opinion on the kid. I know some people that post on here might think their are "experts", but I'll take the opinion of a guy that does it for a living, over some guy that has 4k posts on a message board. Your priorities are obviously confused. I suggest that next time you wait to post until you've spoken with a scout who agrees with the unwashed masses on this board.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 11, 2008 21:03:14 GMT -5
Basically all the flaws you pointed out come down to decision making, which I think we all realize is a problem for Wright, but to make those judgements based on a summer league game is a little crazy. If it were a game and he is making the same exact decsions than yes, it will be a major problem, but in all the games I saw him play on TV (small sample size I know), we were better with him on the court and he didn't make many (yes there were a few) bad decisions. But I guess if he makes bad decisions in Kenner League, we should consider giving his scholarship back to Rivers, maybe Crean would agree to a swap. Good post. Wright has all the ability, physical skills and tools you want for an NBA point guard, let alone a college point guard for a team with high aspirations. Anyone questioning his handle is silly IMO. But his weakness has been and still is his decision making. He has to balance out his aggressiveness with a more cerebal approach. He's not as good (physically and athletically) as AI so he needs to stop playing like AI (well, actually to be fair Wright exhibits more self-control than Iverson). Once he masters this part of the game he will be special. Also Clark is one or two seasons away from having a good enough handle to be the lead point guard for Gtown.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 11, 2008 21:04:45 GMT -5
Guys, never meant to bash Wright in my post, just wanted to pass on an unbiased professional opinion on the kid. I know some people that post on here might think their are "experts", but I'll take the opinion of a guy that does it for a living, over some guy that has 4k posts on a message board. Maybe but we aren't overpaid like most NBA scouts.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 11, 2008 21:46:41 GMT -5
i dunno as much time as a lot of us spend posting on these boards when we're at "work" perhaps there are some of us who are pretty overpaid.
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Post by sleepy on Aug 11, 2008 21:50:22 GMT -5
Guys, never meant to bash Wright in my post, just wanted to pass on an unbiased professional opinion on the kid. I know some people that post on here might think their are "experts", but I'll take the opinion of a guy that does it for a living, over some guy that has 4k posts on a message board. I don't think anyone thought you were here to "bash" him, but the same exact things have been pointed out many times here by biased(towards the Hoyas) unpaid posters. Its not like its some sort of eye opening opinion, it just hadn't been brought up this week.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Aug 11, 2008 22:09:06 GMT -5
Guys, never meant to bash Wright in my post, just wanted to pass on an unbiased professional opinion on the kid. I know some people that post on here might think their are "experts", but I'll take the opinion of a guy that does it for a living, over some guy that has 4k posts on a message board. I don't think anyone thought you were here to "bash" him, but the same exact things have been pointed out many times here by biased(towards the Hoyas) unpaid posters. Its not like its some sort of eye opening opinion, it just hadn't been brought up this week. I just don't see what this has to do with this year in college. Chris seems like a smart kid. Tell him to run the offense. He'll be fine. We just won 100 games in 4 years. How'd the NBA scout rate Wallace? Cook? Sapp? Rivers? I'm running out of guards here. Wright doesn't have to be AI's second coming. He has to be a talented college guard who can run the offense and shoot. He'll share the floor with Sapp, Freeman, Summers, and Monroe this fall and hasn't even practiced yet this year. I think he might be in a bit better situation come gametime than the only future starter on a team with two freshman bench players, a redshirt reserve, and a recently-graduated career 9th man.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Aug 11, 2008 22:25:05 GMT -5
He forces things way too much, as this scout said "It is like he is trying to make the league in one game". . Also is this even necissarily a bad thing? I mean, yes the forcing things is, but the other part sounds like he is going out 110% even in a summer league game. Yea, he might be making mistakes, but I will take the aggressive mistakes as long has his positives outweigh his negatives. Unless of course you think he was just trying to improve his draft stock in the kenner league, in which case, its not so good.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Aug 12, 2008 6:14:17 GMT -5
Ed, are you not big on Chris Wright? I am big on Chris Wright. What my post was meant to look at was the immediate trashing of an NBA scout because his assessment did not agree with that of most HoyaTalk posters.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 12, 2008 8:06:37 GMT -5
110% yup and jason maybe 120% this summer at warp speed i like em ALOT GO HOYAS
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Post by michiganhoya on Aug 12, 2008 8:34:08 GMT -5
I thought the "NBA Scout"'s perspective was interesting ... but again Wright is a rising Sophmore playing in a near playground style summer league game with little to no coaching. He blew by both Roger Mason Jr and Brian Chase at will on Sunday and did the same thing on Friday night. He's always looking for the flashy pass in Kenner League, but I believe those crazy passes won't be replicated during most of the regular season. I'd like him to be a 1st or 2nd Team All Big East after this year, not a second round draft pick.
Incidentally, what did your scout friend say about Henry Sims?
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Post by Hoya TMF on Aug 12, 2008 8:58:55 GMT -5
lots of people on this board question wright decision making. that's exactly why JTIII gets paid what he does-to take someone with wright's physical gifts and help wright maximize them. once c-dub gains more experience, he'll get a much better feel for the game this year. plus the team will have more continuity over the next couple of years assuming summers and/or monroe stick around. i can't wait.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 12, 2008 9:00:39 GMT -5
YEAH WHAT ABOUT HENRY HE CAME OUT TO PLAY could be interesting yup great foul shot stroke nice d some blocks and passes and put backs HE WAS MUCHMOREMEANERONSUNDAY woowwowwo go hoyas go henry OH HENRY and id like a CLARD BAR YUP ;D ;D ;D
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Post by justabballfan on Aug 12, 2008 9:57:15 GMT -5
Incidentally, what did your scout friend say about Henry Sims? Just wanted to let everyone know that this scout was not there scouting people for the NBA, he was there as a fan to watch some basketball. The topic of Sims never came up, but I did ask him about Monroe, briefly. He said that Monroe has a ton to learn and that he is almost certain that Monroe will not be a one and done guy.
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Post by gujake on Aug 12, 2008 15:09:00 GMT -5
We have been talking about these exact same things with respect to Chris all summer long. The only thing I definitely disagree with him on is that we will be better off with Clark playing more minutes than Wright. Wright brings too much to the table. Maybe by the end of the year this will be true, but I can't see it at the start.
DEFINITELY agree with him about Monroe. He is relying on his athleticism right now for much of his scoring. He is not polished, and has no chance of being one and done in my opinion. He will help us a ton, but I don't see him dominating a game.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Aug 12, 2008 15:40:41 GMT -5
DEFINITELY agree with him about Monroe. He is relying on his athleticism right now. He is not polished at all, and has no chance of being one and done in my opinion. I don't think Monroe will be 1 and done (although if he wanted to I'm sure he'd be a 1st rounder), but I totally disagree with your reasons why. Monroe actually isn't a great athlete in the Stoudamire/Howard sense. He's a very good athlete, but there are a decent number of high major big men that are on a similar level athletically to Greg (although most probably don't have his combination of height and build). What sets Greg apart are his court awareness, passing, ball-handling, and passable mid-range J. Does he have a lot to work on? Sure, he's an incoming freshman. But describing him as an athlete with no polish isn't accurate at all, IMO - he isn't Macklin.
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 12, 2008 15:48:34 GMT -5
Just to add a little something, I am not aware of Monroe ever saying he planned to be or wanted to be "one and Done". All I've seen in his quotes are comments about education being important to him.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 12, 2008 16:00:41 GMT -5
he'll be a two at through or a three then free more likely then not. would be surprised if he was a four then out the door.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Aug 12, 2008 18:27:05 GMT -5
Just to add a little something, I am not aware of Monroe ever saying he planned to be or wanted to be "one and Done". All I've seen in his quotes are comments about education being important to him. And as I think we've said before, if you're one-and-done you don't select Georgetown. Greg's not going anywhere. He's here to learn on and off the court.
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