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Post by Grandpa on Aug 5, 2008 8:47:19 GMT -5
Green not surprised that Broadus gives recruits a second chance
By Robert B. Bonaparte • Press & Sun-Bulletin • August 5, 2008"I really was going to go GW [sic] with him if he didn't transfer over to Georgetown," said Green, who averaged 10.5 points and 4.5 rebounds in his first NBA season, earning All-Rookie first team honors. "He's straight up. He's not like these other coaches that lie just to get you. Through my three years at Georgetown, he gave the speeches when I needed them. www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080805/SPORTS/808050307[shudder at the thought]
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Post by krukster201 on Aug 5, 2008 9:16:07 GMT -5
Broadus is missed and he will work wonders for any school he is involved with... I will always wish him well .. he has to have his hands full with Theo and Tiki - I hope they don't let that talent go to waste and Broadus can get the best out of them - at one point in their career , they were both top 25 talent.
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Post by 1227 on Aug 5, 2008 9:54:29 GMT -5
So Green was going to de-commit to GU after Esh left but then changed his mind when Broadus moved over from WG to GU? So, then, Broadus was at WG when Green originally committed to GU?
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Post by idhoya on Aug 5, 2008 10:04:53 GMT -5
May have also gotten Samardo had Broadus stayed. Samuels was his recruit.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 5, 2008 10:06:35 GMT -5
Jeff signed his LOI six months before III was hired, but given that Esh had been fired, there were a lot of folks trying to get him to de-commit. You can usually get out of an LOI because of a coaching change.
It may have been simply that with Esherick out, he felt more comfortable with a coach he knew -- which was Broadus at GW -- and then a month later Broadus was at Georgetown.
EDIT: Edited because I was wrong.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 5, 2008 10:07:16 GMT -5
So, according to the article, h.s. junior Jeff had decided to go to WG. During his senior year, Broadus accepted a position at GU and Green followed him. If I remember correctly, Jeff wasn't signed until April, or later, of his h.s. senior year. This explains it.
Now, the question is who recruited Broadus? Was it JT3 or Esh? If the answer is JT3, then that puts to rest the credit given to Esh by some here for recognizing the talent and recruiting the Roy-Jeff-Jon-Tyler class. First, we all know that Jon came with JT3. As for Roy, he was coming to his only love, GU, since he was 11, regardless of the coach. The only recruitment required was offering a scholarship. Kudos (although I think he would have tried to walk-on if he didn't get a scholarship offer. ;D). As for Tyler's recruitment, I don't remember who got him. Finally, this class included Ewing, who came with JT3 after Esh was fired. Now, we'll find out about Jeff's recruitment. Not to bash Esh, but let's give credit, where credit is due.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 5, 2008 10:09:50 GMT -5
Jeff didn't sign his LOI until about six months after III was hired, and given that Esh had been fired, there were a lot of folks trying to get him to de-commit. It may have been simply that with Esherick out, he felt more comfortable with a coach he knew -- which was Broadus at GW -- and then a month later Broadus was at Georgetown. When was Esh fired? When was JT3 signed? |
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Post by Jack on Aug 5, 2008 10:22:48 GMT -5
So, according to the article, h.s. junior Jeff had decided to go to WG. During his senior year, Broadus accepted a position at GU and Green followed him. If I remember correctly, Jeff wasn't signed until April, or later, of his h.s. senior year. This explains it. The article does not say that. It says Broadus was recruiting him, but nothing about deciding to go to GW in his junior year. I remember discussing Jeff as a GU commit during his senior year. His comments that he was going to go to GW are 1. a boost to his buddy Broadus and 2. perhaps more related to the uncertainty of GU's coaching situation that spring. His late qualification also may have played a role. |
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Post by Hoya TMF on Aug 5, 2008 10:28:19 GMT -5
Based on SF's post, it appears that Jeff was on his way here because of Esherick and de-comitting was only a possibility because Esh was fired. Jeff then considered GW because he knew Broadus, but stuck with us after Broadus came over here. If that's the case, Jeff was still only in play because Esh recruited him first. Now, he may have ended up here anyway, but I think its okay to give Esh at least some credit for Roy, Tyler and Jeff. I'm sure no one thinks he could have coached them to a final four and two regular season titles, so can't we just leave it at that?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 5, 2008 10:39:33 GMT -5
Now, the question is who recruited Broadus? Was it JT3 or Esh? Broadus came on after III was hired. Not really. Jeff had signed an LOI with Esherick (I was wrong above). Broadus merely kept him. Hibbert did always come to GU, but that's being taken a bit for granted -- lots of players have passed up their dream school because of the coach. Tyler was an Esherick recruit. He committed before Jeff. |
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Post by strummer8526 on Aug 5, 2008 10:54:06 GMT -5
Finally a good summer thread! In my opinion, if Jeff had gone to WG, it would have been because of our poor facilities.
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Post by RDF on Aug 5, 2008 11:32:23 GMT -5
Dont' forget about the Mike Hopkins comments at the Syracuse Golf Event regarding Green.
It'd have been awful for Georgetown and Jeff if he went to GW though. That's all I will say about their "style" of play/player development.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 5, 2008 11:33:24 GMT -5
Dont' forget about the Mike Hopkins comments at the Syracuse Golf Event regarding Green. It'd have been awful for Georgetown and Jeff if he went to GW though. That's all I will say about their "style" of play/player development. He would've caught some monster alley-oops, though. Yeah. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 5, 2008 11:36:28 GMT -5
so if it wasn't for jtiii hiring broadus we'd have lost jeff to GW.
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Post by vcjack on Aug 5, 2008 11:44:04 GMT -5
Here's a thought, how much of our transfers out can be atributed to Broadus? If Jeff is still loyal enough to him to basically run a pr campaign to calm agitated Binghamton boosters, I assume some of the other guys are/were attached to him.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 5, 2008 11:46:32 GMT -5
If someone was attached to Broadus, maybe him staying would have further convinced them to stay, but I don't expect that was the driving impetus for any of them. Playing time rules.
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Post by Boz on Aug 5, 2008 11:49:43 GMT -5
Here's a thought, how much of our transfers out can be atributed to Broadus? If Jeff is still loyal enough to him to basically run a pr campaign to calm agitated Binghamton boosters, I assume some of the other guys are/were attached to him. Oh boy. Now you've done it. tick....tick....tick....tick....tick.... I would say "let's not go overboard here," but who am I kidding? ( ;D - sorry, I forgot my smiley) |
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Post by vcjack on Aug 5, 2008 11:54:42 GMT -5
Here's a thought, how much of our transfers out can be atributed to Broadus? If Jeff is still loyal enough to him to basically run a pr campaign to calm agitated Binghamton boosters, I assume some of the other guys are/were attached to him. Oh boy. Now you've done it. tick....tick....tick....tick....tick.... I would say "let's not go overboard here," but who am I kidding? ( ;D - sorry, I forgot my smiley) Oh I'm just getting started Here's a more interesting question: If Broadus was still an asistant at GU, would Jeff have skipped his senior year? (I'm not saying these were bad things, talented players getting having scholarships avaliable, assistants getting head coaching jobs and star players getting drafted high are all great things for this program but there is a tradeoff) |
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Aug 5, 2008 12:08:57 GMT -5
Oh boy. Now you've done it. tick....tick....tick....tick....tick.... I would say "let's not go overboard here," but who am I kidding? ( ;D - sorry, I forgot my smiley) Oh I'm just getting started Here's a more interesting question: If Broadus was still an asistant at GU, would Jeff have skipped his senior year? Yes. He went 5th, there was no way he was staying. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 5, 2008 12:10:08 GMT -5
Another fairly pointless question. But given the number of people who jump primarily for the money, why would you even suspect Broadus was a defining factor?
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