chep3
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Post by chep3 on Jul 8, 2008 22:56:08 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jul 8, 2008 23:21:54 GMT -5
I wonder how his haircut and Dubrovnik will mix.
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Post by RDF on Jul 9, 2008 0:09:25 GMT -5
This is Maurice Clarett Part II--just hope it doesn't end up the same for Jennings. I think he'll regret this, but we'll see--maybe he'll become the next great thing, just don't buy it.
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Post by dungeon ball on Jul 9, 2008 7:07:27 GMT -5
This is Maurice Clarett Part II--just hope it doesn't end up the same for Jennings. I think he'll regret this, but we'll see--maybe he'll become the next great thing, just don't buy it.
Curious as to why people think this is a bad decision. Is the level of play in professional European leagues a drop off from NCAA's? Can't he stand to actually improve more in this setting rather than Arizona (and actually make some money...leagally)?
I really don't have a strong opinion, but was wondering what people's takes are.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 9, 2008 7:36:46 GMT -5
...and that was the last that fans of basketball in the United States ever heard of Brandon Jennings. Still, none will ever forget his "Play"-style haircut and his over-the-top, embarassingly selfish, Harlem Gloobetrotters, "me first" nationally televised performance.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jul 9, 2008 8:09:57 GMT -5
This is Maurice Clarett Part II--just hope it doesn't end up the same for Jennings. I think he'll regret this, but we'll see--maybe he'll become the next great thing, just don't buy it. Curious as to why people think this is a bad decision. Is the level of play in professional European leagues a drop off from NCAA's? Can't he stand to actually improve more in this setting rather than Arizona (and actually make some money...leagally)? I really don't have a strong opinion, but was wondering what people's takes are. people think it's just the opposite. that Europe is significantly harder than the NCAA's and he's not going to be able to succeed there, especially with his style of play. He'll make money, but he very likely will end up hurting his stock rather than helping it. that is if he can find a team that will take him. |
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Post by Buckets on Jul 9, 2008 9:55:06 GMT -5
I think that in the absence of information, we should probably give the benefit of the doubt to Jennings and assume he has found a team that will take him and that he thinks will help him improve. Being one and done he won't be getting playing time because they want to develop him, but lots of teams in Europe are run much more like businesses. As long as he's not far behind talent-wise, he's an entertaining player nad he'll be putting people in seats -- he'll play.
Europe is much harder than the NCAA just by virtue of the fact that he'll be playing against full-grown men instead of guys in their late teens and early twenties. So it'll be a challenge for him, but why is it bad that he's trying to go against top-flight competition? And I think it's hilarious how quickly the phrase "hurting his stock" is being thrown around again, didn't we just have this discussion a few weeks ago about a certain big from our own school?
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Post by RDF on Jul 9, 2008 11:49:04 GMT -5
I think it's Clarett like for "trying to change the system". This is a very immature kid who is being advised by Sonny Vaccarro in Sonny's quest to "help the kids" and let them go to the NBA out of HS. Thing is--we're talking about a kid who switches HS all of the time, changed his commitment two times, and thought the "Elite 24 Game" was more important then making certain he was qualified for college--which didn't seem to hurt OJ Mayo, Kevin Love, Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, Michael Beasley, etc...but he is going really risk losing more money by going to Europe--if he flops--he'll never see an NBA deal--and he blew it. As mentioned above--this isn't college ball and the first time he tries some stupid "showtime" play and ball sails into the 3rd row, or he waves off his teammate who is wide open to "get at" an opposing player and throws up one of his pattened poor shots--he will be treated much differently then he would at Arizona.
Hope he grows up--but this is NOT the type of player who should be the one to make this type of move--Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett? Sure--but this guy? He's an overhyped player who is selfish and comes out of one of the more mediocre classes in the past decade. He's shown no commitment to anyone but himself--so why would he show a commitment to adapting to a different country/style of play? This is going to be a big learning experience and we'll see if he's got what it takes. He's now a Professional and his antics/selfish play is not going to cut it. He'll be treated like a Pro/covered like a Pro and he better be able to handle criticism like a Pro. Clarett--the other poor choice to try and break a rule ended up a total washout. Jennings has a chance to show us all he's different. Good luck.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 9, 2008 15:40:08 GMT -5
The reason this came up at all is that Brandon has not yet qualified for College.
He had to retake the SAT's and has not yet received his latest scores.
But maybe he already knows he did poorly and is not expecting the "Hail Mary" attempt to work and gain admission.
In that case, why the heck not go to Europe, make a few bucks, and get picked next year?
What's he giving up? A year in prep or a JC?
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Post by moe09 on Jul 20, 2008 18:01:32 GMT -5
Let's all be honest for a minute here... No one likes Brandon Jennings on this board... what better guinea pig to send to Europe to see if he sinks or swims? Now, fact of the matter is that his style of play (and fashion sense) is easily the LEAST translatable to the European style of play, but who cares?
If anything it'll make for some good board discussions, and be an example for all of the other future players thinking of skipping school to head to Europe. In the end, it'll hopefully bring us all one step closer to seeing the NBA 1 year rule more clearly.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 20, 2008 23:00:24 GMT -5
The 1 year rule is a joke.... has nothing to do with education. It should be rescinded.
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Post by RDF on Jul 20, 2008 23:54:00 GMT -5
The rule should be 2 years--and David Stern is type of person who will do this before he rescinds the rule--if you try and force him to change--he'll never do it on terms he doesn't dictate. Vaccarro is going to lose any battle with David Stern.
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Post by SirSaxa on Oct 4, 2008 19:32:29 GMT -5
The NY Times has a story on how Brandon Jennings is adapting to Italy Jennings In Italy - Update...he chose to play in Italy, where he will earn $1.2 million this season in salary and endorsements, including a shoe contract with Under Armour. Roma signed Jennings to a three-year deal but has little at risk because his contract must be bought out if he leaves for the National Basketball Association.
If Jennings has a strong season with Roma and is among the top 10 selected in next June’s N.B.A. draft, as expected, more players may follow his route.
“I think it’s going to change the game a lot,” he said. “If they don’t change the rule, I think you’re going to see more kids test the waters and try to make a name for themselves overseas.”
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David Stern, the N.B.A. commissioner, is an advocate for having high school players wait a year to enter the league. He said that Jennings would probably have a better basketball experience in Europe than in college. N.B.A. teams have sophisticated scouting systems abroad, Stern said, and 74 international players began last season on league rosters.
“I actually think it’s a pretty cool thing for a kid to do what he’s doing,” Stern said. “There’s a big world out there. If you want to play for Rome as opposed to Arizona, go ahead and do what you think is best. It’s a positive development for kids and for the N.B.A. scouts.” |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 5, 2008 18:54:22 GMT -5
Of course Stern has no issue with this.
The whole point of the one year rule is to increase the vetting period of multi-millionaire draft picks, thus decreasing the risk to teams.
Jennings will get vetted better in Europe than he will in the NCAAs. If the team thinks he will play, he might even get better coaching (he certainly will have more time to work on his game).
Stern doesn't care about Jennings -- he cares that NBA teams have a good idea of how good he is before drafting him.
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