the_way
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Post by the_way on Jan 26, 2005 11:45:50 GMT -5
This past weekend I don't know if everyone saw this for College Game Day in Connecticut at 11:30 am show, Jay Bilas went on to say "I think the ACC is overrated. The top 4 teams, Duke, North Carolina, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech are strong and that is what makes the ACC conference the best, but the Big East is deeper from top to bottom. Ha Jay? Can't you just admit your bias, and just say the Big East is better? I guess his Duke pride won't allow him to say it. What do you guys think?
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hoyadrummer
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Post by hoyadrummer on Jan 26, 2005 11:48:03 GMT -5
When Jay says that the ACC "is" the best, it all depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 26, 2005 11:48:23 GMT -5
bilass cant admit his bias and still keeps pushing rudy as god not our workman blue collar guy jeff
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 26, 2005 11:49:28 GMT -5
please no more indirect referrals to our fellow hoya the president is is is and we are are georgetown no matter what the definition and wereeeeeeeeeeeeeee back
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 26, 2005 11:50:05 GMT -5
and would you all please spell mr. bilass"s name correctly bilass
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 26, 2005 11:55:59 GMT -5
They were singing the praises of Miami early on. Miami!!! Florida State, Miami, Va.Tech, Clemson, UVa are all, as Busta Rhymes would say....doo-doo brown.
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 26, 2005 12:08:52 GMT -5
and would you all please spell mr. bilass"s name correctly bilass I'll definately make sure to keep this in mind for the future. I mean...if lic is calling you out on a typo, you know it's big one  |
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hoyadrummer
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Post by hoyadrummer on Jan 26, 2005 12:28:06 GMT -5
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 26, 2005 12:51:03 GMT -5
Speaking of Vitale, I was watching a game on ESPN Classic channel the other night between North Carolina and North Carolina State played in the late 70's. It was just before halftime when I realized that one of the announcers was "Dickey V" The commentary and analysis were very good and professional. There was no high pitched rants and proclaiming this player or coach the greatest ever ,just regular professional reporting. Obviously he has made himself over to be a "showtime" act for the ESPN games he announces. |
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Post by ShimmyJr on Jan 26, 2005 12:58:23 GMT -5
Is it sacrilege for me to say that I think there is merit in that statement - I have heard it a bunch, and I don't necessarily disagree with it...
The top 4 teams in the ACC would likely be the top 4 teams in the Big East - sure GT had their problems, but they returned everyone from their Final 4 squad last year, so I don't think they will be down long.
That being said - with the resurgence of GU and the tough games up and down the conference schedule, are we the deepest conference yes...will we be the best conference next year - I would like to think so - but this year's Big East certainly does not have a UNC, Duke or WF in it...
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 26, 2005 13:21:26 GMT -5
Best is a tough word. What matters? Are all teams weighted equally, or do tourney teams count more? Their best teams are better than ours. UNC, Wake and Duke are far better than our best; how much credit do they get for being "far better."
In my mind:
UNC > Cuse
Duke > BC
Wake > Nova
Tech = UConn
GU > Maryland
Pitt > NC State
ND > Miami
Providence > Clemson
West Virginia = Virginia
Florida State = Rutgers
St. John's = Vatech
Seton Hall is down here as well.
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Post by ShimmyJr on Jan 26, 2005 13:29:24 GMT -5
Best is a tough word. What matters? Are all teams weighted equally, or do tourney teams count more? Their best teams are better than ours. UNC, Wake and Duke are far better than our best; how much credit do they get for being "far better." In my mind: UNC > Cuse Duke > BC Wake > Nova Tech = UConn GU > Maryland Pitt > NC State ND > Miami Providence > Clemson West Virginia = Virginia Florida State = Rutgers St. John's = Vatech Seton Hall is down here as well. I would agree with most of that SF - I think that GT with BJ Elder at full strength is a smidgeon better than UConn, but i think the rest of the stuff is accurate...I guess I am placing significant weight on how good UNC, Duke and Wake are, as well as a GT team when at full strength - But the great thing about the Big East is that we can take on the ACC teams and make them play our more physical game... All I am saying is that watching Duke, UNC and Wake play, the talent level and discipline is just great, and I don't see that in the Big East this year - but it all comes back to how you define "best" i guess |
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Post by hoopsmccan on Jan 26, 2005 13:31:08 GMT -5
SFHoya - Why do you compare Wake and Nova, rather than Wake and Uconn and then Gtown/Nova vs. Ga Tech?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 26, 2005 13:32:58 GMT -5
Personal view, no other reason. I think Nova is a better team than either UConn or Georgetown. Or has been. Maybe not at the end of the season. Either way, I don't think any of the three are better than Wake. And Uconn/Tech seems an apt comparison, as both are extremely talented, but somewhat struggling teams.
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Jan 26, 2005 13:46:34 GMT -5
You guys are crazy. Carolina better than Syracuse? , Duke better than BC?, and Tech=UCONN. Tech = UCONN to me is insane. The top 4 teams of ACC are good, but I don't think they are better than our top 4.
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Post by ShimmyJr on Jan 26, 2005 13:52:25 GMT -5
carolina, in terms of talent and playmaking, is a much better team than syracuse in my opinion - i don't think it is that controversial.
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Jan 26, 2005 14:03:25 GMT -5
Didn't say it was controversial, I just don't think Carolina is that great, along with the rest of the top 4. Good, but not great.
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Post by JimmyHoya on Jan 26, 2005 14:14:06 GMT -5
I totally agree with Bilas.
I'd put my money on Wake or UNC versus BC, Syracuse and Nova 99 times out of 100.
But if you match up the leagues in a series, we'd come out on top for sure.
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Jan 26, 2005 14:17:32 GMT -5
I totally agree with Bilas. I'd put my money on Wake or UNC versus BC, Syracuse and Nova 99 times out of 100. But if you match up the leagues in a series, we'd come out on top for sure. You'd be out of money at least 60 out of 100 times, my friend.  |
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Post by JimmyHoya on Jan 26, 2005 17:27:50 GMT -5
You'd be out of your mind, my friend! I hope we see one of those match ups later in the season.  |
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