Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jun 27, 2008 11:11:43 GMT -5
When your only job is to provide information about sports and sports personalities, you need todo a much better job than Stuart "Boo Yah" Scott.
Last night in talking about the DelNegro hire by Chicago, he gushed about Vinnie being part of the '83 Wolfpack title team.
Nice angle for ESPN to play, except DelNegro did not enroll until the fall of 1984. I knew instantly he was dead wrong; but double checked to be sure.
Where is the pride? Where is the accountability? How does this moron (or his writer) still have a high-profile job on TV?
Hey Stuart!! BOO YOU, you simpleton.
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Post by RDF on Jun 27, 2008 12:06:08 GMT -5
He still has a job because once he announced he was ill--everyone treats you as if you are dead and any failures are bypassed, anything you say is followed by..."well he did have treatment for Cancer"----and we treat people like they are in grave when they are sick.
Pre-Cancer and Post Cancer--Stuart Scott is awful. Stephen A. Smith was better on the set then doing the "10 second--he's bold--you know that I like that" interviews.
Is there EVER a foreign player that Fran Fraschilla does NOT like?
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jun 27, 2008 13:50:32 GMT -5
his eye also got progressively worse as the night wore on.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 27, 2008 17:08:29 GMT -5
The difference between Jay, Jeff and Mark -- who all did great if you ask me, and Stuart.... well, I think it was embarrassing.
Couldn't they find someone better?
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moe09
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Post by moe09 on Jun 27, 2008 17:34:37 GMT -5
His eye has gotten worse over the years, now it's happening over a night?
Stuart Scott is a personality. He's not supposed to be any sort of in-depth analyzer. So the writers at ESPN gave him a bad piece of information, so what? He's not reporting on the Valerie Plame case. Geez, talk about overreaction, who cares?
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FewFAC
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Post by FewFAC on Jun 27, 2008 19:00:08 GMT -5
I'm glad basketball season is over so that I can look forward to Stuart Scott mangling NFL Live analysis too.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 27, 2008 19:27:27 GMT -5
His eye has gotten worse over the years, now it's happening over a night? Stuart Scott is a personality. He's not supposed to be any sort of in-depth analyzer. So the writers at ESPN gave him a bad piece of information, so what? He's not reporting on the Valerie Plame case. Geez, talk about overreaction, who cares? I wasn't talking about the bad info, I was talking about the strained efforts at humor, trying too hard to fit in, etc. No one expects him to be as knowledgeable as the three pros sitting next to him. His job is different. Keep the info flowing, keep the pace up, keep the feeling light, get the promos in, etc. He just isn't very smooth or comfortable at it. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 27, 2008 21:36:08 GMT -5
What'e even worse about the mistake? The two were in nearby schools at the same time--Scott is a UNC '87 grad, Del Negro was NC State '88.
Scott certainly should have known better, esp. if he was coverting Vinny as a Daily Tar Heel reporter.
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Post by thornski on Jun 28, 2008 3:11:22 GMT -5
He also seemed to claim on numerous occasions, especially after several Pac-10 players went in the 1st round (Mayo, Westbrook, Love, Bayless, Lopez brothers, Anderson) that many thought the Pac-10 wasn't really a "basketball conference."
Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but when was the last time anyone accused the Pac-10 of not being a basketball conference? Especially given that UCLA has made the last 3 final fours and has won more basketball titles than any team in the NCAA?
Just seemed like some bizarre comments.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Jun 28, 2008 10:18:30 GMT -5
His eye has gotten worse over the years, now it's happening over a night? Stuart Scott is a personality. He's not supposed to be any sort of in-depth analyzer. So the writers at ESPN gave him a bad piece of information, so what? He's not reporting on the Valerie Plame case. Geez, talk about overreaction, who cares? Wait, there's a thread where I can criticize all of the reporters and TV personalities who covered the Valerie Plame case? Where is that? ;D I had my TV on mute (except for the Roy and Pat parts) through the whole draft, so I can't comment on Scott that night, but my perspective on something like this is as follows.... I hate Chris Berman. I simply cannot listen to him. I would prefer listening to Gilbert Gottfried reading me the collected works of John Grisham. But Chris Berman knows the NFL, as host of Gameday. He may be getting lazy in his old age, and is annoying as hell with his catch phrases, but he has an encyclopedic knowledge, maybe not of Xs and Os, but of the people involved in the sport. Berman is also a host, a personality, like Scott. But Scott's been covering the NBA and college basketball for his whole career. I don't think it's too much to ask of someone like that to have worked fairly hard on their commentary for accuracy. And if they do that work on a regular basis, they are much less likely to make flubs like that when ad libbing. So, something like this reveals a casualness toward the subject that I think puts many people off. But there is another problem. Sure, he makes mistakes. Big deal. Everybody does. Even in the context of what I wrote above, I'm not going to excoriate someone for a simple goof. But he also has a radio in his ear the whole 4-5 hours. So, if he says something like that, why isn't a producer, a PA, a research intern, telling him, "hey, you messed that one up; you should correct it next time you have a few seconds to fill." Now either (A) that happened and Scott didn't bother to think it was important enough to fix. Or (B) it didn't happen b/c ESPN didn't feel it was necessary to have their host correct a mistake. Either way, it is a problem. And I think it is a problem that most people who grew up with ESPN have with the network these days. Where it once touted having seriously knowledgeable people covering their programming, it now seems to emphasize the importance of entertainers first, experts second (or third, or fourth). And I really have a problem if it happened as you say and a writer/producer gave him bad information. Not just because hosts at ESPN should be writing their own commentary (4-5 hours is a long time and you can't write to cover the whole thing), but those people are not on camera and should be able to check their facts a little more before feeding the lines. By itself? OK, maybe a mountain out of a molehill. But I think the reaction is due more to the fact that this is a trend (and not just with Stuart Scott), not an aberration. Sorry to write so much on such a small subject (like I said, I use my mute button pretty liberally with the Worldwide Leader, so it's not a huge deal to me). I guess I'm just bored this morning. |
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 28, 2008 12:03:56 GMT -5
What'e even worse about the mistake? The two were in nearby schools at the same time--Scott is a UNC '87 grad, Del Negro was NC State '88. Scott certainly should have known better, esp. if he was coverting Vinny as a Daily Tar Heel reporter. I didn't know that, and you are right... it makes his gaffe even more blatant. |
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