mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on May 3, 2008 17:55:43 GMT -5
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on May 3, 2008 17:58:34 GMT -5
And you're bringing this up now because?
I was under the impression that these Barbaros had been throughly beaten.
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Post by strummer8526 on May 3, 2008 17:59:13 GMT -5
Why is this here? I don't get what discussion this is supposed to start other than one that we had a year ago when the Egerson stuff happened.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on May 3, 2008 18:02:58 GMT -5
Why is this here? I don't get what discussion this is supposed to start other than one that we had a year ago when the Egerson stuff happened. b/c people on this board are accusing other Universities of putting athletics before academics in regards to their interest in Vernon. it is unfair, and to continue pretending we are not part of big time college basketball and all that comes with it, good and bad, makes us look asinine |
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tal1286
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Post by tal1286 on May 3, 2008 18:14:49 GMT -5
Why is this here? I don't get what discussion this is supposed to start other than one that we had a year ago when the Egerson stuff happened. b/c people on this board are accusing other Universities of putting athletics before academics. sixer just threw down. snap! |
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Post by strummer8526 on May 3, 2008 18:20:52 GMT -5
Ah...so this isn't in the thread about Vernon, why?
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moe09
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Post by moe09 on May 3, 2008 18:23:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure everyone is pretty aware of this on this board..
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on May 3, 2008 18:24:46 GMT -5
Ah...so this isn't in the thread about Vernon, why? b/c my fans demand it............. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 3, 2008 18:28:46 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is naive enough to suggest that georgetown doesn't make exceptions for athletes. The point is for the most part georgetown holds the students to a higher standard than other schools once they are here. That is true.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on May 3, 2008 18:29:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure everyone is pretty aware of this on this board.. then why are there post saying we are different from others when it comes to making exceptions for athletes? the board loses its credibility when things like this are posted and a simple google search proves otherwise. |
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moe09
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Post by moe09 on May 3, 2008 18:35:22 GMT -5
I'm not saying your point isn't right. Or at least may or may not be right, who knows the whole story behind this.. I'm just saying that people are aware of this "fact" hypocrisy or not...
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Post by drhibbert on May 3, 2008 18:37:03 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is under the impression that scholarship athletes are subject to the exact same admissions standards as other Georgetown applicants. The question is whether the athletes, once admitted, are held to higher academic standards than they would be at other schools. Since Egerson was in fine academic standing when he transferred, I don't think that article proves things one way or the other.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on May 3, 2008 18:40:18 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is naive enough to suggest that georgetown doesn't make exceptions for athletes. The point is for the most part georgetown holds the students to a higher standard than other schools once they are here. That is true. i disagree that people are not naive enough to suggest that georgetown doesn't make exceptions for athletes. just read the vernon to florida thread(s). also, how do you we hold the students to a higher standard than other schools once they are here? the point i am trying to make is, when you make statements that are intended to make you appear superior to others and those statements are not true, it leads to other unpleasant things being uncovered. |
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Post by strummer8526 on May 3, 2008 18:43:16 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is naive enough to suggest that georgetown doesn't make exceptions for athletes. The point is for the most part georgetown holds the students to a higher standard than other schools once they are here. That is true. i disagree that people are not naive enough to suggest that georgetown doesn't make exceptions for athletes. just read the vernon to florida thread(s). also, how do you we hold the students to a higher standard than other schools once they are here? the point i am trying to make is, when you make statements that are intended to make you appear superior to others and those statements are not true, it leads to other unpleasant things being uncovered. Yeah, and JTIII slept with a country singer he met at a karaoke bar. That's what we get for opening this pandoras box. Shame on us. Georgetown is still better. |
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on May 3, 2008 18:52:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure everyone is pretty aware of this on this board.. then why are there post saying we are different from others when it comes to making exceptions for athletes? the board loses its credibility when things like this are posted and a simple google search proves otherwise. it is true that some posters have said that gtown is an exception, but the majority of the board, i think, doesnt feel this way. This thread seems like you are trying to teach everyone a lesson which doesnt need to be taught. The egerson recruitment is a black mark in recent gtown history but is not indicative of the coaching staff's or school's philosophy when it comes to recruiting. This thread is erroneous. |
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Post by jgalt on May 3, 2008 19:02:47 GMT -5
also, how do you we hold the students to a higher standard than other schools once they are here? while none of us can comment with any degree of accuracy on the performance of any player in specific classes it can be said that there are no "gimmee" classes offered at gtown. the proof of this can be found by anyone, on the schools website. There is a listing of classes offered for next semester. when this is compared to other larger university which have athletic teams at the same competitive level as gtown basketball you may change your tune. For example, it was reported on a national broadcast of the NCAA tournament last year (2007) that a power forward for a certain large state funded school had taken a course on basket weaving the previous semester. There is no basket weaving class at gtown. for anyone who cares go to 2:45 of this video for smart commentary on stone throwing in glass houses and further reasons why this thread is erroneous: |
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on May 3, 2008 20:02:40 GMT -5
I really don't get the point of this thread.
Georgetown basketball players don't get into trouble. I don't think there's been any serious trouble from basketball players since JTIII took over (excluding that one incident after he signed). Furthermore, our players have stayed in good academic standing. Even Egerson was never academically ineligible. DJ Owens had academic issues before JTIII came along, but he still got into law school at Virginia, and I doubt they made exceptions for him because he was a basketball player.
Our program puts an emphasis on good academics and good behavior. JT2 made a big deal about both, and JTIII has carried that tradition on. You can't say the same for every school and coach.
Are we better in those areas than every other school out there? No. There are plenty of other big-time basketball schools that emphasize good off-court behavior. When people talk about how we do that well, they're not implying that we're the only ones who do so. But at the same time, it's true to say that not every school does it that way.
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Post by hoyaclap on May 4, 2008 9:52:19 GMT -5
I really don't get the point of this thread. DJ Owens had academic issues before JTIII came along, but he still got into law school at Virginia, and I doubt they made exceptions for him because he was a basketball player. Not taking anything away from you other points, but that Amadou went to UVA Law, Not DJ. DJ graduated with a double major, though. |
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on May 4, 2008 11:23:16 GMT -5
I thought that DJ was still going to law school too. I know he did one year at Georgetown Law when he was playing for us as a 5th year senior.
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Post by PhillyHoya on May 4, 2008 11:40:22 GMT -5
I thought that DJ was still going to law school too. I know he did one year at Georgetown Law when he was playing for us as a 5th year senior. I thought he was getting his masters in theology. I know he went back to Louisiana and got his real estate license though. |
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