EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 8, 2010 10:11:35 GMT -5
SirSaxa, you are an Intolerant. I just coined that term and appointed you the first member of that group, the Intolerants. This group will be composed of those people who find labels to put down those who disagree with them. They call those who disagree "Deniers" or "Birthers", or whatever, for the purpose of making fun of them and making them look like idiots.
There are those of us who do not believe that man is a significant cause of climate change and we are not just puppets who ignore science. If my memory serves me correctly, I am among a group that includes about 300 scientists who share my beliefs and who expressed their skepticism recently. I'm sure their reasons for doubting the "consensus" were fully explored in the Tom Dietz report. Oh, they were not? Wonder why?
In my opinion, man-made climate change is an interesting theory that feeds on itself by ensuring that future funding for more studies follows as sure as night follows day. And that funding is almost non-existent for anyone who disagrees. It is the product of the Intolerants who separate those who disagree into a pit called Deniers.
It will be interesting to see how the changed sun-activity we are now entering will be interpreted to blame any earth effects on man-made climate change.
The earth has experienced periods of heating and cooling for thousands of years, not products of human activity. At least one other planet in our solar system has, in the last years, experienced temperature changes similar to that of earth. Guess the Martians need to ban drilling for oil in their Arctic region. Are there any Mars Intolerants aboard?
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 8, 2010 13:25:02 GMT -5
They call those who disagree "Deniers" or "Birthers", or whatever, for the purpose of making fun of them and making them look like idiots. Thanks Ed, but you give me far too much credit. Toss in your denial of evolution and your claim Sarah Palin was a brilliant choice and its pretty clear you are doing a bang up job all by yourself.
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 8, 2010 14:25:17 GMT -5
They call those who disagree "Deniers" or "Birthers", or whatever, for the purpose of making fun of them and making them look like idiots. Thanks Ed, but you give me far too much credit. Toss in your denial of evolution and your claim Sarah Palin was a brilliant choice and its pretty clear you are doing a bang up job all by yourself. Get your facts straight. I don't deny evolution. I never said Palin was a good choice but instead said she was not ready to be VP. Aside from those two things, your comments are right on.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 8, 2010 15:21:52 GMT -5
Get your facts straight. I don't deny evolution. I never said Palin was a good choice but instead said she was not ready to be VP. Aside from those two things, your comments are right on. A brilliant choice! And a brilliant acceptance speech by Palin. "Palin is the Choice" Thread
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Post by EasyEd on Jun 8, 2010 18:54:45 GMT -5
Get your facts straight. I don't deny evolution. I never said Palin was a good choice but instead said she was not ready to be VP. Aside from those two things, your comments are right on. A brilliant choice! And a brilliant acceptance speech by Palin. "Palin is the Choice" ThreadI stand corrected. If I make a mistake I own up to it. I obviously said that after her brilliant convention speech. However, if you scour my later comments on Palin you will discover I altered that position to say I did not believe she was then qualified to be VP but, given time, she would acquire the experience and knowledge required of the office. At the same time I said she was better qualified to be VP than Obama was to be President and I think Obama has proven me correct on that part.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 23, 2010 8:44:55 GMT -5
Study Affirms Consensus on Climate ChangeExcerpts The results are pretty conclusive. The new research supports the idea that the vast majority of the world’s active climate scientists accept the evidence for global warming as well as the case that human activities are the principal cause of it....
Of the top 200 researchers, only 2.5 percent fell into the dissenter camp. That is consistent with past work, including opinion polls, suggesting that 97 to 98 percent of working climate scientists accept the evidence for human-induced climate change. ...
“We show that the expertise and prominence, two integral components of overall expert credibility, of climate researchers convinced by the evidence” of human-induced climate change “vastly overshadows that of the climate change skeptics and contrarians,” Mr. Anderegg and the other authors write in their paper.
In this long-running battle over scientific credibility and how to measure it, the Anderegg paper analyzes a particularly large database of climate researchers, and therefore goes farther than any previous effort in attaching hard numbers to the discussion.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jul 15, 2010 20:45:34 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 23, 2010 21:36:18 GMT -5
NOAA: Second Warmest July and Warmest Year-to-Date Global Temperature on RecordExcerpt August 13, 2010
The combined global land and ocean surface temperature made this July the second warmest on record, behind 1998, and the warmest averaged January-July on record. The global average land surface temperature for July and January–July was warmest on record. The global ocean surface temperature for July was the fifth warmest, and for January–July 2010 was the second warmest on record, behind 1998.
The monthly analysis from NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, which is based on records going back to 1880, is part of the suite of climate services NOAA provides government, business and community leaders so they can make informed decisions. Putin ponders climate change in ArcticExcerpt Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin travelled beyond the Arctic Circle on Monday to look into evidence for climate change after a record heatwave ravaged central Russia this summer.
Putin .. flew to a scientific research station in the Samoilovsky island at the delta of Siberia’s Lena River.
“The climate is changing. This year we have come to understand this when we faced events that resulted in fires,” Mr. Putin told climate scientists working at the station, opened in 1998 to study the melting Siberian permafrost.
The two-month heatwave, Russia’s worst on record, killed 54 people in forest fires, destroyed a quarter of the grain crop and shaved at least $14-billion off the economy.
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 28, 2010 21:22:04 GMT -5
China, Japan agree to enhance dialogue on climate change, energy-savingExcerpts BEIJING, Aug. 28, 2010 (Xinhua News Agency) -- China and Japan pledged on Saturday to enhance dialogue and exchanges on climate change, energy conservation and environmental protection. The two countries, meeting in Beijing, agreed to make a combined effort to implement the Joint Statement on Climate Change between China and Japan, said Zhang Ping, chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), during the third China-Japan high-level economic dialogue.
The two sides will conduct pragmatic cooperation in the areas of clean development mechanisms, energy-savings, energy efficiency improvement, new energy, renewable energy, clean coal technology, methane recovery and utilization, carbon capture and storage, adaptation to climate change and technology development and transfer, he said. ..
The two countries have held four energy-saving and environmental protection forums and inked 76 agreements involving cooperation in this area. When hi-tech countries like Japan and China are working on solutions to Climate Change, it makes you wonder how the US could be so far behind the 8 ball... unless you look at the influence of the oil and coal industries.
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Post by EasyEd on Aug 29, 2010 9:41:32 GMT -5
With China putting numerous new coal-fired power stations online each month, it's hard to understand why you wonder the US is so far behind.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Sept 1, 2010 19:05:01 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 1, 2010 19:09:03 GMT -5
He says he has not changed his tune.
"In an interview with The Guardian, Mr. Lomborg denied making an abrupt U-turn on climate change, arguing that he has always taken the issue seriously. He blamed the highly partisan nature of the climate debate for skewing his views."
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Sept 1, 2010 19:20:31 GMT -5
I would agree that he has not made a 180 U-Turn, but that is not the equivalent of changing your tune, and he did not say that he has not changed his tune. He has long relished the role of being skeptical of policies that address global warming, and that viewpoint no longer appears to be his.
Consider the following Lomborg quote: "In 20 years' time, we’ll look back and wonder why we worried so much."
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Post by TC on Sept 1, 2010 19:20:48 GMT -5
No, he is changing his tune. His circa-2001 position was that it was too expensive to reign in emissions so his argument was we shouldn't bother and we should just deal with whatever effects happen.
Now he thinks the effects are going to be too severe and he thinks that we should do something and he's proposing a $100B global emission tax.
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Post by Boz on Sept 1, 2010 20:12:41 GMT -5
Clearly, those Egg Council creeps got to him!
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 7, 2010 18:10:10 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 8, 2010 9:14:15 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Sept 8, 2010 9:33:21 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 8, 2010 9:37:39 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Sept 8, 2010 9:58:39 GMT -5
S'OK. Was just giving you a hard time.
But forgot to include the smiley guy.
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