DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 9, 2008 22:58:59 GMT -5
...cannot win games like this if the guards, and Wallace in particular, play tentative and disappear on offense. Credit where due to Louisville in picking up the defense - Hoyas did a lousy job of adjusting. They were treated to the expected visiting team in the Big East refereeing, but I don't think it was particularly heinous.
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Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:00:47 GMT -5
Or the discrepancy at FTs.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 9, 2008 23:01:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I think this was all about Wallace. If he is that tentative, the offense just cant work. He looked so lost out there.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 9, 2008 23:01:38 GMT -5
This was a terrible and frustrating game. The only possible silver lining would be if this is a wake-up call. Like the Memphis game, this is a blue print for beating us - take the guards out of it and then dare them to shoot.
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royski
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Post by royski on Feb 9, 2008 23:03:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I think this was all about Wallace. If he is that tentative, the offense just cant work. He looked so lost out there. Nice to see you come around.
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Post by essex on Feb 9, 2008 23:05:43 GMT -5
Without naming names...count the # of people swho are really not BE caliber...and it's easy to see why we're going nowhere.
So long Hoyas.
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Post by zxhoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:08:28 GMT -5
Wow, the responses on this board surprise me. It's one game!!!! Offense is unimaginative? Maybe GU should fire JTIII and hire Craig Esh back. Calm down people, GU is a good basketball team, not a great team. Are there any great teams in the BE? We're as good as any team in the BE and on a neutral court we will be fine. This will be a game that the team learns from, a plus in my book. The play of JWallace concerns me though, really struggling with his confidence but I have faith that he will respond soon.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:09:35 GMT -5
Without naming names...count the # of people swho are really not BE caliber...and it's easy to see why we're going nowhere. So long Hoyas. Here we go again.
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SFOHoya
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Post by SFOHoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:09:53 GMT -5
May the meltdown begin. Good thing it is only one day until our next game
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 9, 2008 23:10:45 GMT -5
Last time I checked we have the same guards as we had last year. Wallace is just playing too tentative like a said, but all in all, we got beat by a hot team that outcoached and outplayed us after making good adjustments. Lville has great talent. They are coming on much like us last year. It is just annoying that we couldnt get the critics off our backs with a signature win.
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HoyaPride
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Post by HoyaPride on Feb 9, 2008 23:11:14 GMT -5
SO Long ESSEX,
I just booked my flight to DC for March 8th. SENIOR DAY and a chance to show Padgett that he is a patch on Roy's fanny.
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Post by Frank Black on Feb 9, 2008 23:12:58 GMT -5
The histrionics on the board are definitely a bit much. We got hit in the mouth in a really hostile environment and didn't respond. It happens to just about everybody I think. Just watch the film and figure out how to break the zone. And maybe shoot a few more jump shots in practice.
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Post by uptownathlete on Feb 9, 2008 23:13:05 GMT -5
You guys can't be serious. These un-named ppl have been playing in this league for how long? Some of you guys need to get a grip. In another thread, someone said J-Wall was a walk-on for a reason. How dumb can you be? Yeah, he hasn't shown much this year, especially as of late, but let him be on like he was in the...[wvu game i think...somewhere around that] and you guys will be all over him...once again.
I can understand the criticism but some of you take it waaaay too far.
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:13:45 GMT -5
Padgett is A STIFF....he got WAY too many points (at least 4-6) because Roy, as usual, is swiping on the perimeter at the pick and roll instead of getting back on d once the pick is set.....
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Feb 9, 2008 23:14:09 GMT -5
yea, so long hoyas. Do you guys have any faith? are you even real fans? We are the 6th ranked team in the f'ing world. We made it to a final 4 last year. Now, it's "so long hoyas" or better, "we are done the first week of the tournament." Wow...
We ran into a team that is playing great and a school that has had this marked on their calendars forever. We played a bad second half. Do you have NO faith in the staff? Yea, let's just throw in the towel. Yes, we have issues. Summers thinks he is a 3 point champion. Wallace is struggling. Rivers is arguably the worst offensive player and athlete in the BIG EAST. Macklin probably belongs in the America East conference. OK. so what? We are a team that has heart and fights. Luckily, we get to see Pitino and co again. Unfortunately, we can't say the same for Pitt. III and staff will coach the boys up. Our team is a bunch of warriors. I would take Ewing and Sapp in a basketball game or a fight over any other 2 people in the conference. We have 3 losses. We struggled. We also have a game on Monday. Belief is what got our team to where they are today. But after a tough half we just bash them? Be a real hoya fan, please.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:17:55 GMT -5
It's dissapointing. They have failed twice on natonally televised games where everyone was watching (Louisville, Memphis) and both games were ugly.
Well, maybe they get the big losses out of the way early. I think Ewing should be playing big minutes, not Rivers.
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Feb 9, 2008 23:18:12 GMT -5
Without naming names...count the # of people swho are really not BE caliber...and it's easy to see why we're going nowhere. So long Hoyas. you dont give up. We deserved to lose that game, just entirely out of character. I'm sure JWall is hitting his shots in practice and his form doesnt seem to have changed so this must be a mental issue. Im not sure how you fix it. Rivers is ATROCIOUS against the press. He panics and loses the ball way too often. Roy dominated down low and probably needed the ball more but never before have I seen him have so much trouble with switching on picks. Hes gotta know that he usually should not switch and only do so if his teammate cannot pick up the defender and can help on the pick. Austin played well. Hit his shots for the most part and did well on the boards. Pat too. Except for one strange errant pass he had another day of fantastic passing from the perimeter and great energy. Weve gotta stop the 3s once we realize were not hitting em. And the defense has gotta be smarter, poor communication on picks and helping mistakes were there that we usually never see. But its one game and im sure we'll be back to form soon. Even the guards.
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Post by DallasHoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:21:03 GMT -5
Can't remember the last time a Hoyas game turned around at halftime like that. Lots of blame to go around - Wallace/Sapp/Summers: 2 for 16 on threes - and one of those was Sapp's prayer as the shot clock went off. Lots of mental mistakes - Freeman running on the baseline after a TO, Hibbert stepping into the lane during a Ewing free throw, Sapp taking his eye off the ball after Padgett's miss, etc.
Summers is the key to the team's success this year. And he's wildly inconsistent at this point.
And why did Dickie V kiss the other announcer at the beginning of the game? It' clear his heart is with Pitino.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 9, 2008 23:21:49 GMT -5
Rivers is a turnover machine. If he shoots the ball from outside it's as good as a turnover since it will be an airball or brick.
Basically you play 4 on 5 on offense with Rivers.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 9, 2008 23:22:37 GMT -5
The guard play was atrocious. All of them. But while you're at it, though, check Summers' stat sheet--he absolutely disappeared in the second half.
Of course, everyone knows the Villanova defensive plan, and expect to see Scottie Reynolds in the backcourt challenging every single inbounds play.
And if anyone can't remember the last game that turned around like that, I do, because I was there: Memphis.
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