nathanhm
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Post by nathanhm on Jan 21, 2008 13:13:46 GMT -5
Small turnout this week but we still had 7 voters. Thanks to everyone that voted. | Rk | Team | Votes | LW | Record | | 1 | Memphis (5) | 173 | 1 | 18-0 | | 2 | Kansas (2) | 170 | 3 | 17-0 | | T3 | Tennessee | 150 | 7 | 16-1 | | T3 | North Carolina | 150 | 2 | 18-1 | | 5 | Duke | 145 | 6 | 15-1 | | 6 | Washington St. | 141 | 8 | 16-1 | | 7 | UCLA | 135 | 4 | 16-2 | | 8 | Georgetown | 130 | 5 | 14-2 | | 9 | Indiana | 125 | 9 | 16-1 | | 10 | Michigan St. | 110 | 11 | 16-2 | | 11 | Wisconsin | 93 | 15 | 15-2 | | 12 | Texas | 75 | 19 | 14-2 | | 13 | Pittsburgh | 64 | 18 | 15-3 | | 14 | Stanford | 60 | ARV | 15-3 | | 15 | Texas A&M | 58 | 10 | 15-3 | | 16 | Villanova | 49 | 25 | 13-3 | | T17 | Butler | 48 | 13 | 17-2 | | T17 | Vanderbilt | 48 | 16 | 17-2 | | T17 | Mississippi | 48 | 14 | 15-2 | | 20 | Dayton | 46 | 17 | 14-2 | | 21 | West Virginia | 45 | ARV | 14-4 | | 22 | Xavier | 38 | 20 | 15-4 | | 23 | Clemson | 31 | 21 | 14-4 | | 24 | Drake | 27 | 24 | 16-1 | | 25 | Marquette | 24 | 12 | 13-4 |
ARV: Louisville 16, Kansas St. 16, Arizona St. 13, Connecticut 11, Florida 8, Souther California 8, Massachusetts 7, St. Mary's 3, Notre Dame 3, Cincinnati 2, DePaul 1, Oklahoma 1, Jim Boeheim's tears 1 |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 21, 2008 13:28:13 GMT -5
surprised people have UCLA ahead of us their two losses have both come at home and ours were both on the road.
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Post by redskins12820 on Jan 21, 2008 13:33:14 GMT -5
surprised people have UCLA ahead of us their two losses have both come at home and ours were both on the road. At the same time, according to "our" poll UCLA has also beaten the #6, #10 and #14 teams this year while we haven't beaten any team in "our" top 25 |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 21, 2008 13:41:01 GMT -5
I guess i just look more at who you lost to. we lost to #1 and #13 away they lost to #12 and ARV at home which is worse in my book.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 21, 2008 14:11:39 GMT -5
It seems our poll is just as guilty as the major polls of playing the game of dropping people after a loss and pretty much only then.
Two losses to Texas and USC aren't going to convince me that Tennessee is better than UCLA. Tennessee has some really good wins -- and I'm not downgrading them -- but I think Kansas and Memphis are one and two and UCLA is probably next.
Washington State got blown out at UCLA. It only got "close" because they hit seven straight garbage time threes. I realize it was at UCLA, but still, that's a lot to chalk up to home away.
Our resume is significantly weaker right now than most of the other Top 10.
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russodj
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Post by russodj on Jan 21, 2008 14:12:50 GMT -5
If you want to look at the teams you lost to you also need to account for how the team played in the loss or how bad the loss was. The Hoyas lost badly in both games while UCLA was close with USC (3 point game with a minute) and down to the wire against Texas.
This is not a knock, but by your logic HSB, Indiana would be ahead of the Hoyas and I don't think they are nearly as good as G'town.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 21, 2008 14:29:25 GMT -5
I guess in my logic only the top 8 teams are in the discussion and can't move from the top 8. But i wholeheartedly acknowledge my logic sucks.
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russodj
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Post by russodj on Jan 21, 2008 15:27:33 GMT -5
HSB- I think it's tough to take one approach and rank the top 10-15 teams becuase of the number of factors. That said, I think right now the top 8 clearly are better than the rest. Mainly, because teams 9-11 in this ranking all play in the Big 10 and the Big 10 sucks. So maybe your logic of looking at just the top 8 isn't so bad.
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