HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 2, 2007 10:23:09 GMT -5
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Feb 2, 2007 10:34:25 GMT -5
When will the general public learn not to care what they say?
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 2, 2007 10:37:01 GMT -5
Right about when the general public loses their fascination with Paula Abdul et al.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Feb 2, 2007 10:37:54 GMT -5
or half past never...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2007 10:48:08 GMT -5
Or Barbaro.
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miamihoya
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Post by miamihoya on Feb 2, 2007 12:46:25 GMT -5
saban continues to prove he's an Edited
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Feb 2, 2007 13:15:54 GMT -5
Just to clarify, "coonass" is not a racial slur in the Gulf States. It's interchangeable with "redneck from SE Louisiana." White folks from Thibodaux use it to refer to themselves all the time. If you read Michael Lewis' latest book, Ole Miss "footbaw" coach Ed Orgeron is referred to as a "coonass" multiple times. This article is really much ado about nothing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coonass |
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 2, 2007 13:17:58 GMT -5
There used to be a saying that the difference between a k___ass and a sh__ass was the Sabine River.
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Post by hifigator on Feb 2, 2007 17:27:09 GMT -5
As best as I can tell, it really seems to be like the "n" word in that "they" can and do use the word freely and without insultabout themselves, but if an "outsider" uses it then it is received as an insult. Sounds kind of screwy to me but heck, I don't make the rules.
And I guess the term "redneck" is a fair comparison as well. Some view the term as an insult while others wear their "redneckedness" on their coat-tails as a badge of honor.
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Post by TigerHoya on Feb 2, 2007 18:19:27 GMT -5
Just to clarify, "coonass" is not a racial slur in the Gulf States. It's interchangeable with "redneck from SE Louisiana." White folks from Thibodaux use it to refer to themselves all the time. If you read Michael Lewis' latest book, Ole Miss "footbaw" coach Ed Orgeron is referred to as a "coonass" multiple times. This article is really much ado about nothing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoonassThat's the way I always heard it from people from Louisiana when I was in the military and from family members of someone I dated who were from the Lafayette area. |
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 2, 2007 18:56:26 GMT -5
And I guess the term "redneck" is a fair comparison as well. Some view the term as an insult while others wear their "redneckedness" on their coat-tails as a badge of honor. Rednecks don't wear coats, let alone coats with coat-tails. They go shirtless with overalls exclusively. |
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Post by hifigator on Feb 2, 2007 23:30:06 GMT -5
And I guess the term "redneck" is a fair comparison as well. Some view the term as an insult while others wear their "redneckedness" on their coat-tails as a badge of honor. Rednecks don't wear coats, let alone coats with coat-tails. They go shirtless with overalls exclusively. Wow ... what a response .... As no interest in further attempts to digest the bait, I must decline to do so. ... ... hypothetically speaking, were I inclined to "battle" the rod-holder further, I would likely select one of these two avenues .... A: I could refute such insinuations on fact and/or principle alone, by pointing out that some, (if not, even many) of the "high on the hog" rednecks do in fact wear shirts. Not to mention the fact that "overalls" is oxymoronic in and of itself! Why would I wish to be associated with such .... not to mention that the very use of "oxymoron" or any variation of the same, would definitevely exclude the "guilty party" from any and all claims of "redneccism" ... errr .... "redneckocity" .... "rednecktitude" ... "redneckitis" ... ... I've got it!!! .... "inadvertant, solar-influenced super-torso-sub-cranial syndrome." B: Besides .... why would I even bother! After all, such a redneck wears the label as a badge of honor on his coat-tails ... whether he even has coat-tails is irrelevant. |
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Post by RusskyHoya on Feb 3, 2007 2:59:52 GMT -5
I'm a diehard Auburn fan, so I hate Saban and Alabama in general, but
A) Cajun accents are impossible to imitate. Even trying is worthy of some props. Well, maybe not, but it's an amazing accent that is really hard to mimic.
B) Saban played this whole game wrong, but at Bama he will be God. That's the way it is. In Miami he will be the coach, in Tuscaloosa he will be God. I can't blame him for making that choice. I wish him the worst, but there it is.
C) The South is still a racially, er, "not especially politically correct place." Saban's pretty much blending in with the locals. Stuff like this certainly isn't gonna get him in trouble with the Bama folks. Even the LSU people can't really blame him, they know how backwoods some of their people are. I can't see this becoming an issue.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 3, 2007 10:15:45 GMT -5
I'm from LA, lived there the majority of my life, have known several Cajuns, and have heard the term coonass forever. IMO, given it's cultural use in LA, it is not a derogatory term like the N word is for African Americans. In fact, in New Orleans, where I am from, it is not uncommon to see the term proudly displayed on t-shirts and bumper stickers.
With that said, I think most Cajuns would view the term as an insult if it is used in a manner to make them appear ignorant or somehow "second class", which, if you heard Saban's remark, is precisely how he used it.
Saban is a PR disaster. As the state's highest paid employee, and, like it or not, the voice of the state's flagship university, he should realize that nothing he says in this PC world is "off the record" in the presence of reporters. His subsequent handling of the incident only underscores his arrogance and ignorance.
Back in the day when I thought I was Black, prior to Hoyaeighties informing me in his infamous meltdown that I am actually a white racist, I rarely used the term, preferring to leave it for Cajuns to use within their community. I personally gave up using the N word several decades ago, even though many Blacks I know continue to use the term in a non derogatory manner. Let me reiterate that I in no way equate the social significance of the two terms.
And finally, I still haven't figured out how to tell my family that I am actually white, and a racist at that. Wait, maybe I'm adopted and they never told me.... ;D
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