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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2006 10:23:46 GMT -5
Take your pick of sports-related websites, its the front story on 'em all.
Like him or hate him, depression is no laughing matter and I hope the Cowboys and the NFL get him the help he needs to get his life back on track.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Sept 27, 2006 10:27:19 GMT -5
Should he go on IR for this?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2006 10:51:30 GMT -5
Should he go on IR for this? No. Someone going through depression this serious needs to know they have a place in their family, that people still care for them, and that they have something to go back to when they get themselves right. T.O. needs to know that when he feels he's ready he's got a spot on that team - its his career, his life, his livelihood, his family. That being said, this is the NFL. They don't care. I wouldn't be surprised if he got CUT, let alone put on IR. |
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Post by RDF on Sept 27, 2006 10:56:42 GMT -5
With the Dallas media--I don't believe this story at all. Until it's proven and he is placed in a facility under medical watch, then I'll believe it, but Dallas media jumps all over things and Clarence Hill who broke the story was on National Television today taking it all back and saying it was "not serious--he didn't even need his stomach pumped".
If Owens suffered from allergic reaction which apparently Parcells had mentioned last week after his surgery as something that concerned him or was in his history, then I believe Hill and others involved should have their media passes revoked by Cowboys and possibly fired. It's one thing to report a fact--but in situations like this to go to this length and have it possibly be an allergy to medicine and you claim it's suicide--you should face some sort of discipline.
Guess I have my doubts simply due to the arrogance and self promotion that are staples of Owens' personality. Medicine can do funny things and if he's as sensitive to it as reported, then he could've been in destorted state of mind--but to talk to someone when they are in this state/pain/illness is not best time to communicate. If it turns out that he did attempt suicide and is depressed, then I'll be shocked but I have a funny feeling the media/Dallas media jumped the gun and overexaggerated things--as they are known to do.
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Post by aggypryd on Sept 27, 2006 11:03:04 GMT -5
Dammit, Terrell...
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Post by Boz on Sept 27, 2006 14:49:08 GMT -5
If nothing else, I think today's events make one thing clear:
Never, EVER question the wisdom of RDF!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2006 14:53:40 GMT -5
If nothing else, I think today's events make one thing clear: Never, EVER question the wisdom of RDF! ;D Hahahaha, right?!? I think this is what Michael Irvin was talking about when he gave his famous "Don't LOOOOOOOSE the intensity" diatribe. I just hope this isn't spin by the Owens camp to cover up something more serious... |
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Sept 27, 2006 16:24:26 GMT -5
I think that if this were spin by the Owens camp they wouldn't have TO at practice and talking to the media out of concern for his emotional well-being. The fact that TO was going to talk after doing some drills says more than the impromptu press conference actually covered. I'm still wondering why his publicist was over at his house that late in the evening and why Parcells didn't mention that TO was at practice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2006 16:32:30 GMT -5
I think that if this were spin by the Owens camp they wouldn't have TO at practice and talking to the media out of concern for his emotional well-being. The fact that TO was going to talk after doing some drills says more than the impromptu press conference actually covered. I'm still wondering why his publicist was over at his house that late in the evening and why Parcells didn't mention that TO was at practice. I wouldn't put anything past Rosenhaus. ANYTHING. |
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Post by Thomas on Sept 27, 2006 17:41:22 GMT -5
StPetersburgHoya, what are you trying to imply?? I'm sure the publicist and Terrell Owens were just going over some of his business ventures. HA! HA! Seriously though, by the looks of the publicist we all know what she was DOING with T.Owens at the time. Another funny aspect of this is that Michael Irvin seemed to know a lot about the publicist when he was interviewed about this. To me, it looked like M.Irvin had some "history" with that publicist.
This incident shouldn't surprise anyone. He's been TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL for years. He actually did an ESPN interview wearing a shirt that read 'I LOVE T.O.' He claimed some female fans gave it to him. He also said in that interview "I LOVE ME SOME ME." T.Owens started the HORRIBLE trend of WIDE RECIEVERS ACTING LIKE IDIOTS. Guys like Joe Horn, Chad Johnson, Randy Moss, Roy Williams, Antonio Bryant(he wears #81 for S.F.), Chris Henry, and Steve Smith have followed his lead.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Sept 27, 2006 19:31:47 GMT -5
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Post by Oh My! on Sept 27, 2006 20:05:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't necessarily say he started a trend of RECEIVERS acting like idiots, but he is a prime example of how some of today's professional athletes self-promote on a continual basis. As for your list of "idiots", I might think twice about including Smith. More importantly, while he has had some antics in some end zones, Joe Horn is FAR FROM an idiot. That man almost singlehandedly represented all professional sports in New Orleans for over a year. I firmly believe that end zone celebrations are inconsequential to Horn (& even Johnson), but that celebrations of life are more important.
Speaking of celebrating life, I, for one, am very glad that T.O. is physically healthy today. Such appears to have NOT been the case 24 hours ago. In listening to Coach's radio show, and reading article after article, I have to say that NOT ONE OF US is qualified to say he did or did not attempt suicide. When it comes to "believing" the initial reports or not, I side with Coach, who said it is apparent that the man needs some help. Attempt or not, it appears that this episode was far more than just painkillers, hydrocortisone, and vitamin supplements. To be so "out of it" as to not even remember responses to questions, some seriously bad interaction was at work. It may be his body rejecting medication (perfectly feasible), or it may be "extra" pills. I am no scientist, nor am I accusing TO of anything, but, as Coach said, for ONE OF HIS CLOSEST ASSOCIATES to recognize something different enough in him to call the police, there is cause for concern. I have been on painkillers in my life, and if I have followed the prescribed dosage, I have never felt "out of it", except when a painkiller was taken before a couple beers. We all know that TO doesn't drink, so what, exactly, happened?
Perhaps the most asinine comment I read was in Dan LeBatard's column today, where he says durinng his weekly radio show with TO, he has never heard TO sound happier than in the past 2 weeks. Well, IF (and I do say IF), TO happens to have Bipolar Disorder (you cannot BE bipolar, you can HAVE bipolar disorder), a recognized symptom of the disorder is MANIA. Bipolar Disorder = Manic Depression. Again, IF IF IF, he has bipolar disorder, the 2 happiest weeks ever could surely be a period of mania. I emphasize that this does NOT mean I, or anyone else, think he is "crazy". Mania carries with it a negative connotation that is only 1 part of the word's definition. Mania is basically intense emotion, be it happy, sad, or otherwise.
Society really has no understanding of depression, but Dr. Z's column today on cnn.com makes a good point about how the NFL (& I would say other organizations, too) needs to do a better job of handling people (NOT just athletes) with psychological problems.
OK, off my soap box. I am not accusing TO of anything, but I, like Coach, feel that he does need help of some kind. I'm concerned for him; that's all.
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 27, 2006 20:38:01 GMT -5
Unless there is a massive conspiracy going on, it is extremely unlikely that TO could have been so quickly discharged from the hospital if he had indeed attempted suicide. I suspect this is a non-story.
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Post by miamihoya on Sept 27, 2006 22:30:11 GMT -5
Ya i tend to believe T.O.'s story...it seems highly unlikely to me that he tried to commit suicide by taking an overdose of painkillers/supplemants. Additionally the police report is questionable, because how was he capable of answering such a question in his state? Either way i think Terrel does have issues that need to be addressed, but the best thing for him is to be on the field competing. He actually seemed pretty likable in the press conference today. I guess thats what happens when u are reported as having attempted suicide. You become a sympathetic character.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 28, 2006 12:16:34 GMT -5
What a way to one-up tubby McNabb. Donovan fakes an injury to excuse his God-awful 2005 season; so T.O. fakes suicide.
Try topping that one Mr. Soup Salesman.
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Post by Thomas on Sept 28, 2006 14:38:34 GMT -5
vegasrain, the reason I included Steve Smith and Joe Horn because I feel that they're end zone celebrations were done ONLY to attract individual attention for themselves like Terrell Owens. Joe Horn pulling a cell phone from the goal post after a touchdown on a nationally televised game illustrated that. His excuse that he was calling his kids made it worse. About Steve Smith, he once scored a touchdown DRY HUMPED the goal post and slid down it. Oh yeah, I should have included Keyshawn Johnson on that list of IDIOTIC WIDE RECIEVERS.
I must share with you guys another example of what an A$$-CLOWN Terrell Owens is. I heard a writer on Jim Rome's TV show mention that during the Eagles-Patriots Super Bowl T.Owens claimed that the reason he is controversial and does all those antics is because GOD TOLD HIM THROUGH HIS PASTOR THAT HE SHOULD ACT LIKE THAT. I recall T.Owens also claimed he was praising God when he celebrated on the star in Dallas in 2000.
I've got to disagree with what Coach Thompson and the guys were saying about T.Owens needing professional help for mental problems. It's not as if he is roaming around the public talking to himself. T.Owens is just an ARROGANT JERK who will do just about anything to get some notoriety.
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Post by Oh My! on Sept 28, 2006 15:08:50 GMT -5
I take offense to your last paragraph.................having psychological problems has NOTHING to do with "roaming around the public talking..." I have several close friends who have had &/or currently have regular visits with therapists &/or psychiatrists. Your statement supports my earlier comment that society does not understand depression/mental disorders.
I wouldn't exactly say Doug Duncan was "roaming around the public talking to himself" when he admitted his difficulties & pulled out of the Governor's race in MD.
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Post by Oh My! on Sept 28, 2006 15:09:56 GMT -5
And yes, I, too, believe TO is an arrogant jerk.
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Post by Thomas on Sept 28, 2006 18:59:20 GMT -5
vegasrain, you're probably right I don't understand mental disorders. The main reason I wrote that statement is because Coach Thompson and others on his show make it seem as if Terrell Owens is in SERIOUS trouble and needs to be helped immediately. They make is seem as if his life is in danger. I think they are being WAY too dramatic about his situation. It's not as if T.Owens has gone the BARRETT ROBBINS or ALONZO SPELLMAN route. T.Owens is a JERK, I don't think anything can change that at this point.
To me, its real easy to figure out why Terrell Owens acts like this. He came into the NFL from a small school without high expectations. He was very humble. Through hard work he was able to become an elite player. After he became an elite player, his humbleness turned into ARROGANCE! Being an elite player wasn't good enough for him, he wanted to become a "mainstream celebrity." That's why he's done RIDICULOUS stunts like PULLING OUT A SHARPIE AFTER A TD, STANDING ON THE STAR IN DALLAS, DOING SIT-UPS IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE FOR THE MEDIA! It's as if he's following in the footsteps of Dennis Rodman. There is no doubt in my mind that T.Owens will be appearing in movies, sitcoms, and/or "reality" television shows when his NFL career ends.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 3, 2006 20:37:16 GMT -5
Should he go on IR for this? No. Someone going through depression this serious needs to know they have a place in their family, that people still care for them, and that they have something to go back to when they get themselves right. T.O. needs to know that when he feels he's ready he's got a spot on that team - its his career, his life, his livelihood, his family. That being said, this is the NFL. They don't care. I wouldn't be surprised if he got CUT, let alone put on IR. I know that I am coming in very late on this, but as I mentioned before, PC issues have prevented you from the benefit from my insight ... at least recently. That being said, I was literally injuring myself with laughter during that first paragraph ... to such an extent that the "punch line" was a might anti-climactic. Still good work though Buff..... |
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