Bahstin
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Post by Bahstin on Apr 24, 2006 16:26:06 GMT -5
I once again propose a minimum number of posts required to start a thread. Hi-Fi, nobody gives a rat's ass about FL basketball.
Edit: I just saw that you have over 100 posts here. Beat it.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Apr 24, 2006 16:28:01 GMT -5
do you realize how much of a pitiful edited - nice try you are? you are intentionally coming on to this board and posting irrelevant and uninteresting material just so you can see people, that you have never met nor will ever meet, respond in fury. You must have been dropped alot as a baby, or your dad must have been abusive and your mom must have sold her loins, for you to be craving attention in such a manner as posting on HoyaTalk.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 24, 2006 16:54:44 GMT -5
look gator boy we get it your team will more likely than not be the preseason #1. Our point is we don't care. The other threads about non hoya stuff we started so we obviously care. We just don't care about the fact that your team will be the pre season #1. There are plenty of teams who i feel are better than your team like UNC who is going to be the pre season #2. But the fact is coming off your championship run and currently not losing anyone you will get the nod. And as you correctly point out it'll be hard to stay there. So enjoy it while it lasts but kindly leave us alone.
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Apr 24, 2006 17:10:58 GMT -5
our favorite quote on this board is 'rankings dont matter' and its exactly true when it comes down to the beginning of the year...i think we are a better team than last year and fla just barely beat us-with us getting better we can match them finally down low...dont matter if we are consensus 1 at the beginning of the year but at the end i hope we will be
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Post by Frank Black on Apr 24, 2006 17:12:12 GMT -5
didn't play, has a year of experience being in the program ... how could we not be #1 going in? And if not, who else do you think is deserving of consideration? But no, your response was "blah blah ... you're a Gator ... blah blah flamer ... blah blah this or that or the other. ...." It seems to me that you enjoy arguing, which is the only explanation I can muster as to why you post on a board on which you are unwelcome. This is not an endearing trait.
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VelvetElvis
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Post by VelvetElvis on Apr 24, 2006 17:57:07 GMT -5
Cam definitely is in close running for best avatar!
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njcoach
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Post by njcoach on Apr 24, 2006 19:53:13 GMT -5
But to be fair, fellas, hifigator apparently isn't bright enough to figure out the fact there are several other pages for non-Hoya basketball threads, even after a month of brainless posts about his man-crush on Noah, his friends nobody cares about, and his desire to dictate the terms of discussion on the board. So cut him some slack... reading is hard. Wait... Hifigator is a MAN? Whoa ... I need to process this.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Apr 24, 2006 20:09:42 GMT -5
hifi:
I think Lipscomb is going to have a good year next year. What are your thoughts on their team and the Atlantic Sun conference in general? We played Stetson last season, and Florida played Jacksonville, so you must be as amped about the upcoming Atlantic Sun season as the rest of Hoyatalk.
No, you're not? Perhaps you understand how we feel about your school's team now. Please, head back to the UF board to discuss the Urban Myth offense.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Apr 25, 2006 11:36:32 GMT -5
our favorite quote on this board is 'rankings dont matter' and its exactly true when it comes down to the beginning of the year...i think we are a better team than last year and fla just barely beat us-with us getting better we can match them finally down low...dont matter if we are consensus 1 at the beginning of the year but at the end i hope we will be Well said, and I agree totally. I had that same argument last year with some of the local sports talk hosts. They kept referring to our baseball team as "overachievers" because of their strong season and post season run to the National runner up spot. I kept asking how they justified that term and their only real answer was basically that we weren't ranked that high in the polls. My point was that all that meant was that your (media) evaluations of our team wasn't very accurate. They tried to defend their point with something like "it isn't just my opinion ... it is everyone else's." My point was at what point do we say that our evaluation techniques are not fully effective and give the team the credit it deserved. For the record I thought that many teams in this past basketball season were ranked below where they should have been and others were ranked too high. Early in the season we climbed from unranked to #2 simply because we hadn't lost a game at that point. But we also hadn't played hardly anybody. Yes, we beat Syracuse and Wake Forest in the Coaches vs. Cancer tournies, but those teams weren't the powers that they were supposed to be ... at least at that point in the season. When I saw your game when you uspset Duke, I thought you guys were a very quality team that was deserving of more praise. All year I thought that UConn, Nova and Memphis were setting themselves apart, but I wasn't that impressed with Duke all year, even though virtually all of the computer polls ranked them at the top. LSU was another team that I thought should have been ranked sooner, but they had the exact opposite type of record that we had at that point. They had a less than stellar record because of very tough losses to very high quality opponents. They lost by one to UConn on the road and by 1 to Ohio St. as well. I think that game was on the road as well. They also lost to Memphis. By the end of the year, the pollsters were forced to realize that LSU was better than originally thought. In fact all year we kept hearing about the "down year" for the SEC. I kept saying that it was because of Kentucky not being at their typical level, but some argued with me. Ironically when the season was over, I was proven more right. But the point is that to say the rankings are merely approximations is an understatement.
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TigerHoya
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Post by TigerHoya on Apr 25, 2006 11:39:19 GMT -5
Hifi, For baseball the polls are more worthless than any other college sport.
All that matters is trying to be Top 8 in the official RPI at the end of the year and get locked in early as a Super Regional host if you can win your regional.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Apr 25, 2006 12:03:27 GMT -5
Hifi, For baseball the polls are more worthless than any other college sport. All that matters is trying to be Top 8 in the official RPI at the end of the year and get locked in early as a Super Regional host if you can win your regional. Excellent point with regards to the seeding at the end. It is all about securing a top 8 seed, meaning that you get to play at home. Provided you put in a decent bid to host, and I can't imagine teams in a position to earn a top 8 seed not doing that, you are guaranteed to host both the regionals and the supers. I can't remember which team it was a couple of years ago, but someone didn't put in a bid at all, and then got really hot at the end. I want to say it was Mississippi. I could be wrong, but somebody was a seed but didn't put in a bid to host. They went on the road adn didn't make it to Omaha. As far as baseball rankings go, I agree and disagree. On one hand there are 5 polls, not "just" the 2 that we have in football and basketball. But one thing I like better about the baseball polls is that the pollsters seem to be more realistic. They understand that it is baseball, and that you will lose some games. In basketball for instance Tennessee goes in early in the year and beats Texas and Texas drops 6 or 7 spots. In baseball however, Clemson drop 2 of 3 to a quality opponent and stayed at the same spot. We have really struggled this year, but early in the season we went 2-2 one week and stayed at the same rank. That doesn't happen in football or basketball. In that regard I think the baseball view is more realistic.
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