hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jan 15, 2007 0:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 16, 2007 0:50:39 GMT -5
Dear Ricky:
Go cleats up on Beks.
Love, MLS Fans
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Jan 24, 2007 23:45:33 GMT -5
I know you HAVE to be kidding with that one.
Taking a run at David Beckham would be a good way to destroy MLS.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 25, 2007 2:06:06 GMT -5
I know you HAVE to be kidding with that one. Taking a run at David Beckham would be a good way to destroy MLS. Getting David Beckham is a good way to destroy MLS. If someone can explain to me how this is different than Pele playing on the New York Cosmos I'd love to hear it.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 25, 2007 7:42:08 GMT -5
Well, considering that:
1) the New York Cosmos was a fairly succesfull franchise 2) they averaged something in the range of 50K in attendance a game while Pele was on the team 3) their games were telecast internationally 4) the team and NLS was so wildly popular in the late seventies and early eighties that the NFL became incredibly paranoid, filing numerous lawsuits against the league and creating binding covenants on its owners to take no part in it...for fear that it would overtake the NFL permanently as the #3 sport in America 5) the only reason the team declined was because Rupert Murdoch attempted a hostile takeover of Warner Communications (the owner of the Cosmos) forcing Warner to sell the team to a new and less financially secure owner who had to liquidate the talent in an epic fire sale
I'd say that the "Pele" effect is exactly what MLS wants.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 25, 2007 11:26:29 GMT -5
How about the fact that during those years the US Men's National Team never made the World Cup and that the NLS folded and was viewed by many soccer fans as a set back for soccer in America.
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Post by JimmyHoya on Jan 25, 2007 17:39:15 GMT -5
ESPN said that the Chicago Fire are trying to get Zidane and Claudio Reyna is joining the Red Bulls.
Sounds like the MLS is becoming like those silly "Champions" tours golf and tennis sponsors have set up. All I know is I am PUMPED to see some already bad soccer played by old men!!
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hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jan 30, 2007 14:20:32 GMT -5
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Post by CAHoya07 on Jan 30, 2007 14:56:34 GMT -5
GREAT article. Basically articulates everything Ricky has to go through on a day-to-day basis. Ricky lived on my floor our first two years here, and I can't imagine a nicer, more hard-working guy. Best of luck to you, Ricky, beat the odds!
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 31, 2007 1:01:17 GMT -5
ESPN said that the Chicago Fire are trying to get Zidane and Claudio Reyna is joining the Red Bulls. Sounds like the MLS is becoming like those silly "Champions" tours golf and tennis sponsors have set up. All I know is I am PUMPED to see some already bad soccer played by old men!! So how isn't the league going to pull a NASL?
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 31, 2007 9:22:18 GMT -5
ESPN said that the Chicago Fire are trying to get Zidane and Claudio Reyna is joining the Red Bulls. Sounds like the MLS is becoming like those silly "Champions" tours golf and tennis sponsors have set up. All I know is I am PUMPED to see some already bad soccer played by old men!! So how isn't the league going to pull a NASL? They actually have a sound financial structure (teams have a pretty strict salary cap except they get one exception to use on big name guys such as Reyna, Zidane and Beckham). Many teams have their own soccer only stadiums or are building them, which means they have a lot more reliable revenue streams. They also have TV contracts. The franchises aren't going under left and right nor are they likely too. Also, there are a lot more soccer fans now then there were in teh 1970s. The NASL had one deep pocketed owner that blew a bunch of money on the Cosmos. Most of the other teams were in massive financial trouble--franchises folded all the time, there were no real TV contracts, they had to use other sports stadiums, no one in the 1970s had grown up playing soccer and there wasn't any sort of home grown talent base. MSL might be minor league soccer, but I'd bet a lot of those NASL teams would have been beaten by today's high school teams.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 31, 2007 14:21:26 GMT -5
yeah sorry i forgot to get aroudn to posting that article. Good luck to schramm i hope he makes the team. And i agree with TBird as far as the future of the MLS.
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Feb 13, 2007 13:13:49 GMT -5
ESPN said that the Chicago Fire are trying to get Zidane and Claudio Reyna is joining the Red Bulls. Sounds like the MLS is becoming like those silly "Champions" tours golf and tennis sponsors have set up. All I know is I am PUMPED to see some already bad soccer played by old men!! This is what happens when basketball fans editorialize on soccer. You guys have no clue what you're talking about. David Beckham may have lost a step from a few years ago, but he is still the best in the world at what he does. His goal this past weekend in one of the best leagues in the world, Italian Serie A, shows that he still has what it takes to succeed at the highest level. His presence in the MLS will up the leagues cache and put pressure on other players to up their games...this can only be a good thing. As for Zidane, I can't believe anyone would write him off. This is the guy who singlehandedly made France relevant again in world soccer. He got them into the World Cup, then got the FREAKING GOLDEN BOOT in the World Cup. That's right, this "old man" beat out the best players in the world to be proclaimed the best. Anyone who watched the World Cup would be crazy to say he didn't deserve the honor. To have him in the MLS would be a huge benefit to American soccer, as there is no better example of midfield play than that set by Zizou. Also, St. Pete, it's pretty clear that you watched the ESPN documentary on the NASL and then completely misinterpreted it. TBird is right, this league was doomed by mismanagement, not by a single franchise (and certainly not by Pele...the documentary is clear that Giorgio Chinaglia was the most disruptive force on this team). Additionally, the documentary cites the boredom by fans when forced to watch entire games on TV. This isn't a problem these days, because we have enough channels that one has the option of watching soccer or any of a million other sports. As buzz increases, people can become soccer fans at their own paces. As quality increases, people will realize that soccer is a blast to watch. The MLS is going in the right direction, no matter what a bunch of very knowledgeable basketball fans think. Congrats Ricky...increasing the GTown presence in MLS is ALSO a great way to help out the MLS. Hoya Saxa.
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