Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Oct 27, 2005 15:29:08 GMT -5
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 27, 2005 15:50:41 GMT -5
Hoya Blue will be there. In full Halloween attire. SHould be a lot of fun!
*edit--looks like there are going to be costumes @ 2 games this week. Oh well. Halloween is the best. holiday. ever.
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Oct 27, 2005 22:04:59 GMT -5
Wait, I thought we were coming in costume for Friday's game? Sunday too? Aww, hell... ;D
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 29, 2005 10:51:51 GMT -5
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Post by CAHoya07 on Oct 29, 2005 11:58:20 GMT -5
The athletic department did a pretty Edited poor job of promoting the Pac the Mac "event." The only way I learned about it through GUHoyas.com.
Hoya Blue was there though, there was a pack of about 30-40 of us, many dressed in costume. Even though we lost in straight sets, we got some cheers going.
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Post by SaxaCD on Oct 30, 2005 8:32:48 GMT -5
I don't understand, DFW -- wouldn't 128 SMASH the volleyball attendance record?
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Oct 30, 2005 16:03:04 GMT -5
The athletic department did a pretty Edited poor job of promoting the Pac the Mac "event." The only way I learned about it through GUHoyas.com. Hoya Blue was there though, there was a pack of about 30-40 of us, many dressed in costume. Even though we lost in straight sets, we got some cheers going. Be honest, it was more like 10. If there were forty of you in that little corner of the stands, I will eat my hat.
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Post by RBHoya on Oct 30, 2005 16:19:35 GMT -5
The athletic department did a pretty Edited poor job of promoting the Pac the Mac "event." The only way I learned about it through GUHoyas.com. Hoya Blue was there though, there was a pack of about 30-40 of us, many dressed in costume. Even though we lost in straight sets, we got some cheers going. Be honest, it was more like 10. If there were forty of you in that little corner of the stands, I will eat my hat. Why do you feel the need to disparage? There was most definitly more than 10, and since you felt the need to knock us, I counted and I can come up with at least 20 names of people who were there. PM me and ill give them to you if you don't believe me. And that's not including the people whose names I don't know and the people who I can't remember (I wasn't taking attendance, I just came up with 20 off the top of my head). A safe guess would be 25-30.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Oct 30, 2005 17:01:07 GMT -5
The athletic department did a pretty Edited poor job of promoting the Pac the Mac "event." The only way I learned about it through GUHoyas.com. Hoya Blue was there though, there was a pack of about 30-40 of us, many dressed in costume. Even though we lost in straight sets, we got some cheers going. Be honest, it was more like 10. If there were forty of you in that little corner of the stands, I will eat my hat. Easily more than 10 for sure, that was just a random guesstimation, I have a picture of the section and will gladly count every single person, I'm pretty sure there were at least 30 there. EDIT: This is so stupid.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 30, 2005 17:53:56 GMT -5
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 30, 2005 18:18:50 GMT -5
Ok, alumni - if you can find a way to get students out to a Volleyball game over Halloween weekend at 8pm for a team that hasn't been performing up to expectations (due to some injuries), I'd love to hear it. There were more than 32 people there. And I know that there were more than 20 students that attended the game. We did a costume contest, promoted it on campus, and had a small get together afterwords for those that attended. If you have any other ways to improve attendance besides telling us that we can "do better" or tell us that we are lying - please let me know.
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Post by FLHoya on Oct 30, 2005 20:20:54 GMT -5
If you have any other ways to improve attendance besides telling us that we can "do better" or tell us that we are lying - please let me know. Honestly, if Michael dancing to Eddie Money and CAHoya's track shorts aren't gonna do it, then I'm probably just gonna write a column saying school spirit in general is hopeless and change the name to Generation Hillier. I think it was a good try--the important thing at the end of the day (yeah, more important than attendance) is that the student fans had a good time at the event. It was certainly a creative way to do it. Maybe if everyone had more time to promote it there would have been more people there (also, yeah, 8pm on Friday before Halloween...). The fact that 3-4x as many were there Friday as opposed to Sunday should say something too. Maybe a better question--when was the last time HB or any equivalent actually TRIED to do things like this for sports NOT named "basketball" and sometimes "soccer".
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 30, 2005 20:26:07 GMT -5
That's not a knock on Hoya Blue. It's a student-wide problem--but in a residential campus community of 6,000, how can only 32 people find their way to McD for a Sunday afternoon game? Even field hockey drew almsot 500 and they've lost seven straight.
A year ago I was en route to a game at Davidson and detoured through UNC. There was an event in old Carmichael Auditorium (the home of the Heels before the Dean Dome) and I wandered inside. There must have been 300-400 students whooping it up for a volleyball game with Miami and you could see how thankful the team was that someone was out there to see them play.
Actually, volleyball is not my attendance groaner of the weekend. Take a look a these three football games and ask which drew the least fans:
A) Holy Cross at Fordham B) Yale at Columbia C) Albany at Wagner
A winless Fordham team drew 5,771. Wagner College drew 2,212.
Yale-Columbia drew 2,000.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 30, 2005 20:45:17 GMT -5
Umm, it's volleyball. And I know Gtown isn't very good. Now my high school had better attendance than 32 for volleyball, but that was a nice combination of #1 in the nation (my junior year) and those sweet spandex shorts on tall, thin blondes.
It's a wonderful vision to have attendance for traditionally non-spectator sports. But I think we should be thankful for increased attendance at games people want to watch first. Kudos to HB for just being there.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Oct 30, 2005 21:34:20 GMT -5
The Fordham game was their homecoming.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 30, 2005 21:49:43 GMT -5
The Fordham game was their homecoming. The groan wasn't over Fordham, but Yale at Columbia. Only 2,000, and outdrawn by Wagner?
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Post by RBHoya on Oct 30, 2005 22:28:31 GMT -5
Umm, it's volleyball. And I know Gtown isn't very good. Exactly. And it's friday night. I would never put down one of our teams and I try my hardest not to make excuses for Hoya Blue at any point, but I will say that I am not dissatisfied with Friday's effort. When the average person sits down on Friday evening after a long week, how many of them are thinking "You know what I'd really like to do right now? Check out a women's volleyball game down at McDonough!" It's soooooooo far down the list. I just don't buy into the argument of "6,000 students, and you can only get X to the game?!?" that I've heard you make on more than one occasion, DFW. Percentages just aren't a fair barometer. As John pointed out in the original Gen. Burton columns, there is a substantial portion of Georgetown students who just aren't going to go to sports. You can promote a volleyball game on every door of every building, you're just not going to get very many students out to McD on a Friday to watch women's volleyball. Heck, we can't even get half of our students out to the average basketball game and we have a nationally recognized program. Sometimes, and I mean no offense to you in saying this DFW, I question how in touch with the student body you are. It's very easy for diehard sports fans like you, or me, or 007 or the other HB guys to overestimate the value of sports. For us, obviously, its a big part of our lives, but to others, it just isn't. Some people don't put the premium on sports that we do. Whether they're in Lauinger studying, chugging alcohol in Village A, shopping at JCrew on M, smoking hooka somewhere, catching a play or some sort of performance, or doing something completely different... some people just don't care about sports. I am most certainly not capable of comparing todays student body with the student body in days gone by, but my guess is that it's not the same as it was in your day, and it's important to bear that in mind. You can promote until you're blue in the face, and you can try and add other incentives to go, but in my opinion there comes a point where no fingers should be pointed, not at Hoya Blue, not at the Athletic Department, and not at the student body. Some people just dont like sports in general, and most people only like one or two sports and will take time out of busy schedules to check those sports out a couple times per year max. And that's their choice, and we shouldn't hold it against them. Nonetheless, I've always said that establishing a "sports culture" on campus would definitly be great and would make a big difference, and I think Hoya Blue is getting there. It's a marathon (shoutout to CA!), not a sprint. In the past, how many students would have been at that Volleyball game? Because of Hoya Blue, there were about 30 more people there on Friday than there otherwise would've been, and that was enough of us to show the team some affection, and enough to drown out the incessant clapping from the UConn bench. It's something. It's a start. It's not something to rest upon, it's something to build upon, but at least it's something where there otherwise would've been nothing. And for that, I'm happy. As for football attendance, I may write on that later, but I'll see what everyone/anyone else has to say first, and get back to my homework for now.
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Post by SoCal Hoya85 on Oct 31, 2005 14:20:14 GMT -5
The important thing is we keep the atmosphere at these games fun, instead of telling ourselves how disappointed we are. A fun atmosphere of cheering and camraderie will bring people out even if it is woman's field hockey, swimming, or cricket. I think HB succeded in having a positive atmospehere where those who attended had fun at the event and afterparty.
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Oct 31, 2005 18:16:45 GMT -5
Field hockey's attendance was jacked up quite a bit by the confluence of a large number of Cornell fans/family members and the fact that it was Senior Day for the Hoyas. And we all know how the attendance numbers are never accurate...there were NOT 500 people on Kehoe Field yesterday. Trust me. That also leads me to believe that 32 fans did not attend the volleyball match on Sunday. Sunday afternoons in the fall are reserved or NFL football - unless your girlfriend/boyfriend/best friend/roommate/sibling is playing, you aren't going to the game. This weekend's volleyball matches were VERY poorly promoted across campus by all entities involved...the only way I knew anything was going on was because I check GUHoyas.com every day.
As for the attendance on Friday, I wasn't posting solely to disparage anyone. I saw a group of people, looked like 10-15 of them, sitting together and yelling at whoever was serving for UConn. I know that was Hoya Blue, and I don't know if any of the other 50-75 people (based on a listed attendance of 128) spread out across the stands were HB people, so I can only go by what I saw in that one specific area. And there was no way there were forty people jammed into that corner.
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Post by reformation on Oct 31, 2005 20:50:14 GMT -5
If we were truly competitive at a national level playing other teams like a Stanford, USC, UCLA who compete for a natl championship every year you "might" get a semi-decent crowd, otherwise it is pretty unrealistic to expect a big crowd for an event like this. I have nothing per se against volleyball, but it would seem logical for GU to move some of the substantial expenses that are allocated to the sport to other sports like soccer, e.g.,(pick your sport) where we are probably on the cusp of being nationally competitive and have a chance to be competitive if properly resourced.
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