TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 21, 2007 17:58:19 GMT -5
Read the text of the bill? Federal Code? 14th Amendment? Constitution? Meh...just read the Bible. It's all in the Bible. That's "Hussein" Obama's problem...he's only read that Koran thing while he was attending that terrorist elementary school. Just read the Bible. The Bible tells you how to vote. Perhaps I missed the part about giving to Caesar what is Caesar's. As well as the joke, it seems.
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Post by HealyHoya on Jan 21, 2007 20:43:34 GMT -5
Perhaps I missed the part about giving to Caesar what is Caesar's. As well as the joke, it seems. Thanks, TBird. Yeah, I think the sarcasm key on my laptop is malfunctioning... StPete...my post was in jest. In brighter news, the wireless connection in hell is great. And...huh? Oh, I gotta go. Rick Santorum wants to use the internet.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jan 21, 2007 23:17:19 GMT -5
As well as the joke, it seems. Thanks, TBird. Yeah, I think the sarcasm key on my laptop is malfunctioning... StPete...my post was in jest. In brighter news, the wireless connection in hell is great. And...huh? Oh, I gotta go. Rick Santorum wants to use the internet. He better use it fast - Mark Foley has some people he needs to IM.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 22, 2007 15:30:47 GMT -5
JFK became a senator in 1952...spent most of the first five years in the senate in the hospital for various spine surgeries and various other maladies (missing most votes and debates), yet managed to win election in 1960 based almost entirely on charisma and a message of optimisitic hope. He had little on his political record at all. Just a message and a personality. Not saying he was an incredible president, but he is generally regarded fondly and I don't see Obama as being any less qualified.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 22, 2007 15:45:00 GMT -5
I love the dogmatic almost automatic judgment by people on both sides of the political aisle. Really makes fiscal conservative, social liberals (ie moderates) like myself feel really welcomed by both parties. Its like being in an awkward middle school mixer. All braces, acne, cliques, bad haircuts, awful music and halitosis. Good times. Keep it up you political foot soldiers. Your vigor, perserverance and tenacity are slowly eroding the very fabric of our political system. Personally, I love the republic and enjoy engaging in honest, thoughtful, open debate with colleagues on both sides of the aisle.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 22, 2007 18:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by HealyHoya on Jan 22, 2007 18:13:16 GMT -5
We haven't heard much these past six years about the First Lady's nicotine habit, nor could I list for you the prominent Senators, Representatives, Governors, etc. who smoke so it seems unlikely to become a major issue.
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Jan 22, 2007 19:27:07 GMT -5
Don't know whether or not this is true but there is an email online which says that Obama attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia for a while after his mother remarried another Muslim and relocated to Indonesia. Wahabism is regarded as radical Muslin followed by many terrorists. The email also says he attended a Catholic school for 2 years. Is this important? If true rest assured his Democratic and Republican opponents will talk about it. I hate to burst you and right-wing agenda's bubble, but unfortunately, your "concerns" about Obama's schooling have proven to be fiction. Apparently all CNN had to do was visit the school to find out it is not a madrassa or a wahabist terrorist training ground. Sorry ed! www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.html
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Post by Bando on Jan 24, 2007 18:53:36 GMT -5
Don't know whether or not this is true but there is an email online which says that Obama attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia for a while after his mother remarried another Muslim and relocated to Indonesia. Wahabism is regarded as radical Muslin followed by many terrorists. The email also says he attended a Catholic school for 2 years. Is this important? If true rest assured his Democratic and Republican opponents will talk about it. I hate to burst you and right-wing agenda's bubble, but unfortunately, your "concerns" about Obama's schooling have proven to be fiction. Apparently all CNN had to do was visit the school to find out it is not a madrassa or a wahabist terrorist training ground. Sorry ed! www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/index.htmlBah, facts, what does Ed need them for? Obama is a Muslim terr'rist and he's COMING TO KILL YOU RIGHT NOW!!!!!
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 24, 2007 19:10:16 GMT -5
Read the first eight words of my post.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 24, 2007 22:20:04 GMT -5
Is that like asking someone to read 8 words in any Bush SOTU address?
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 24, 2007 23:05:56 GMT -5
Is that like asking someone to read 8 words in any Bush SOTU address? Wasn't that the part where he congratulated Pelosi for becoming the first woman Speaker?
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Jan 29, 2007 10:22:50 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 30, 2007 22:46:20 GMT -5
Isn't it interesting that Charlie Gibson is still on the air, when someone like Dan Rather got run off for an offense just as egregious?
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 31, 2007 2:34:59 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 31, 2007 3:08:51 GMT -5
The truly sad part of this, is organizations like Fox "News", their corporate sister operations and others can make up stories to be investigated as though there were some truth to them. It is the same as the "swift boat" crowd. And it was totally predictable that these guys would go after Obama because he might pose a threat to the Republican party.
There was and is no truth whatsoever to the Obama/Wahabi/he's-a-muslim/terrorist line. There never was. But it gives them something to "ask" about. They did it to John McCain a few years ago. Was he "all there" after 5 years of torture in N. Vietnam? There was never any truth to that either. But the Bush camp put it out anyway... just to sow doubt. They absolve themselves of responsibility for it. But it is out there. And it has an impact, and McCain lost the S. Carolina primary to GWB as a result.
Same deal with Obama.
What is REALLY hard to believe is that at this point, anyone in America would be so utterly gullible to believe that there might be even a tiny bit of truth to the Obama/Wahabi story -- even though there isn't a bit of evidence to support it. But that is exactly what that crowd counts on. And, hard as it is to believe, for some people it still works.
It's like trying to make the issue about whether or not Sen. Webb was polite or rude to Bush at the reception when Bush asked about Webb's son, when the REAL issue is exactly what Webb was talking about -- should American kids be losing their lives in Iraq so Bush won't have to admit what a gigantic foreign policy blunder he made. Which behavior is more reprehensible?
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Post by Boz on Jan 31, 2007 10:28:26 GMT -5
Yeah, well there wasn't any evidence against Raymond Shaw either, except for some bad dreams. Think about that! I don't mind people pointing out the conservative bias that exists on Fox, which definitely colors not just how they cover stories, but also the stories they choose to cover; it just always puzzles me that the equally obvious liberal bias of CNN and MSNBC (especially MSNBC) somehow gets ignored at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2007 10:38:51 GMT -5
Yeah, well there wasn't any evidence against Raymond Shaw either, except for some bad dreams. Think about that! I don't mind people pointing out the conservative bias that exists on Fox, which definitely colors not just how they cover stories, but also the stories they choose to cover; it just always puzzles me that the equally obvious liberal bias of CNN and MSNBC (especially MSNBC) somehow gets ignored at the same time. I agree. For the most part, I find CNN's news coverage rather un-biased. Their editorializing (King, Blitzer, etc.) is quite biased, but for the most part I find their REPORTING fair enough. MSNBC is another story... David Cross put it best when talking about the IMMENSELY SORRY state of affairs in American journalism. To paraphrase, "its pretty pathetic when I have to go to a foreign news organization's web page to find out news about my own country." Dead on, in my opinion (as I usually do the same thing). EDIT: And Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being...
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 31, 2007 11:06:32 GMT -5
Yeah, well there wasn't any evidence against Raymond Shaw either, except for some bad dreams. Think about that! I don't mind people pointing out the conservative bias that exists on Fox, which definitely colors not just how they cover stories, but also the stories they choose to cover; it just always puzzles me that the equally obvious liberal bias of CNN and MSNBC (especially MSNBC) somehow gets ignored at the same time. I agree. For the most part, I find CNN's news coverage rather un-biased. Their editorializing (King, Blitzer, etc.) is quite biased, but for the most part I find their REPORTING fair enough. MSNBC is another story... David Cross put it best when talking about the IMMENSELY SORRY state of affairs in American journalism. To paraphrase, "its pretty pathetic when I have to go to a foreign news organization's web page to find out news about my own country." Dead on, in my opinion (as I usually do the same thing). EDIT: And Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being... What? You don't think Keith Olberman is fair and unbiased? ;D
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Feb 2, 2007 13:07:26 GMT -5
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