SirSaxa
Silver Hoya (over 500 posts)
Posts: 747
|
Post by SirSaxa on Apr 12, 2006 9:34:48 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 12, 2006 10:39:57 GMT -5
eh i don't know how much love this gives us. I mean we weren't her reach school. It's nice to be mentioned i guess. But unfortunately it wasn't in a very good doonesbury.
|
|
JimmyHoya
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Hoya fan, est. 1986
Posts: 1,867
|
Post by JimmyHoya on Apr 12, 2006 11:44:45 GMT -5
That cartoon sucked.
|
|
hifigator
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,387
|
Post by hifigator on Apr 12, 2006 12:03:00 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense to me. Georgetown: Liberal University Doonesbury: Liberal Cartoon
|
|
DFW HOYA
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 5,777
|
Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 12, 2006 12:19:25 GMT -5
Makes perfect sense to me. Georgetown: Liberal University Doonesbury: Liberal Cartoon Georgetown is not liberal. A little left of center compared to its Scalia and Buchanan eras, but on the whole a generally bipartisan environment.
|
|
CTHoya08
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Bring back Izzo!
Posts: 2,878
|
Post by CTHoya08 on Apr 12, 2006 12:45:49 GMT -5
I would say that among the politically active students on campus, Georgetown is generally bipartisan, maybe a little left leaning. I think the overall student body however, is probably a little more conservative than it is often portrayed.
|
|
|
Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Apr 12, 2006 12:55:10 GMT -5
I would say that among the politically active students on campus, Georgetown is generally bipartisan, maybe a little left leaning. I think the overall student body however, is probably a little more conservative than it is often portrayed. You have to remember that post-9/11 most of the secuirty studies and a good percentage of the IR people on campus (a significant portion of the student body) are conservative. Its a little too simplistic to say that GU is liberal.
|
|
hifigator
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,387
|
Post by hifigator on Apr 12, 2006 12:59:35 GMT -5
I would say that among the politically active students on campus, Georgetown is generally bipartisan, maybe a little left leaning. I think the overall student body however, is probably a little more conservative than it is often portrayed. First things first. All non-religious universities are liberal. Georgetown might just be a "little left leaning" as campuses go, but that still puts them as very liberal. Unfortunately my university is no exception. I deal with it on a daily basis. As far as the student body is concerned, I might agree with you. Prabably that too is true of most campuses in that the enrollment is probably more evenly distribute across the political scales. But the University as a whole is liberal.
|
|
nodak89
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Roy Roy Royyyyy!!!
Posts: 1,881
|
Post by nodak89 on Apr 12, 2006 13:03:49 GMT -5
First things first. All non-religious universities are liberal. Georgetown might just be a "little left leaning" as campuses go, but that still puts them as very liberal. Wow. Awaiting easyed's post agreeing with hifi...
|
|
SFHoya99
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 17,783
|
Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 12, 2006 13:04:57 GMT -5
You gotta love people's inability to understand that terms like these are determined entirely by their point of view.
|
|
|
Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 12, 2006 13:17:41 GMT -5
I wonder if hifi believes there is a War on Christianity in the US. I read about that one in Baseline Journal once.
|
|
hifigator
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,387
|
Post by hifigator on Apr 12, 2006 13:20:33 GMT -5
Let me clear up one thing. I am not trying to promote "religious" campuses, just making a point. When I say non-religious campuses I am basically eliminating the Bob Jones, Oral Roberts and Liberty colleges of the world. Even the "religious-based" schools like Furman or Notre Dame are surprisingly liberal if you look at the faculty. Whether that is good or bad is up to you to decide, but it is a fact of life.
|
|
nychoya3
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,674
|
Post by nychoya3 on Apr 12, 2006 13:26:21 GMT -5
Evidently, being liberal equals being a serious research instituion engaged in furthering human knowledge. 'Cause Bob Jones and Liberty aren't doing that. So I guess Georgetown is "liberal." So be it.
|
|
hifigator
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,387
|
Post by hifigator on Apr 12, 2006 13:41:44 GMT -5
I wonder if hifi believes there is a War on Christianity in the US. I read about that one in Baseline Journal once. I understand that argument, but I think it is rarely if ever given properly. Society as a whole trends towards liberalism. I am not using the term in modern terms but rather that over time any society left on its own will gravitate towards what we consider the left today. Pick any point in our history and look at the "liberals" of that era and then put that person in today's world. He or she would almost always be considered a conservative in today's world. And it isn't just politics. It is dress, apparel, language etc... Christianity, like most religions, doesn't explicitly allow such "freedoms" as what is "right" and "wrong" is not freely up to you and me to decide. But the historical scriptures and passages are continuously analyzed and subject to new interpretations. So even the "Christian" views will follow society's path to a degree, but at the very least this takes time. So at any given point the society has shifted while the religious view of what is right and wrong has not. Once again, this is simply a fact of life; whether it is good or bad is for you to decide.
|
|
hifigator
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,387
|
Post by hifigator on Apr 12, 2006 13:51:51 GMT -5
Evidently, being liberal equals being a serious research instituion engaged in furthering human knowledge. 'Cause Bob Jones and Liberty aren't doing that. So I guess Georgetown is "liberal." So be it. You obviously weren't paying attention. I was specifically excluding places like Bob Jones and Liberty College because they clearly are not liberal. What I was doing was pointing out that Georgetown, like the University of Florida and all other non-religious universities are liberal on the grand scale of things. Research, endowments etc... are fine and have no direct bearing on this debate. Look at the political affiliation of the faculty at all of these other universities. It is something like 90-95% democrat. This is true at public universities like Florida, Georgia, Tennessee. It is true at private universities like Duke, Georgetown, Miami etc... It is true at Ivy League schools like Harvard and Yale. It is true at the high end Tech schools like MIT It is simply true. I don't know how you could argue that much. I am not making a qualititative interpretation of this, just pointing out the fact.
|
|
EasyEd
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 7,272
|
Post by EasyEd on Apr 12, 2006 13:54:20 GMT -5
[quote author=nodak89 board=general Awaiting easyed's post agreeing with hifi... [/quote] You got it. I'm always amazed that liberals never want to be called liberals but prefer "progressive", "independent" or other name. It's always interesting, also, that liberals never recognize themselves for what they are, which is liberal. Conservatives, on the other hand, rarely hide the fact that they are conservative. Anyone that denies that Georgetown is liberal has his/her head in the sand or some other place.
|
|
|
Post by williambraskyiii on Apr 12, 2006 13:54:21 GMT -5
what do you know, if anything, about Georgetown. The answer is NOTHING. so shut your yap. Georgetown is a Jesuit institution you nitwit. You are clearly not qualified to speak on such subjects so I just wish you would leave this board. I would say that among the politically active students on campus, Georgetown is generally bipartisan, maybe a little left leaning. I think the overall student body however, is probably a little more conservative than it is often portrayed. First things first. All non-religious universities are liberal. Georgetown might just be a "little left leaning" as campuses go, but that still puts them as very liberal. Unfortunately my university is no exception. I deal with it on a daily basis. As far as the student body is concerned, I might agree with you. Prabably that too is true of most campuses in that the enrollment is probably more evenly distribute across the political scales. But the University as a whole is liberal.
|
|
|
Post by georgetowngrad05 on Apr 12, 2006 13:54:49 GMT -5
Hifi, Georgetown is a Catholic institution last time I checked. While it may not be Catholic enough for some, or too Catholic for others, it is still a Catholic University founded by our beloved Jesuits.
EDIT: Braskyii, agree 100%. Quicker trigger finger.....
|
|
hifigator
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,387
|
Post by hifigator on Apr 12, 2006 14:09:47 GMT -5
Hifi, Georgetown is a Catholic institution last time I checked. While it may not be Catholic enough for some, or too Catholic for others, it is still a Catholic University founded by our beloved Jesuits. EDIT: Braskyii, agree 100%. Quicker trigger finger..... That was my whole point. When I said "non-religious" I was not knocking the people or the facility, but rather distinguishing from the religious unversities like Bob Jones, Oral Roberts and Liberty College and those like Georgetown and Furman which have historical religious roots. I don't exactly know how to define the distintion, but I doubt many would argue that it exists. At Bob Jones religion is part of the daily life for every single person, not that I am saying that is a good thing but it is a fact. Places like Furman and Gerogetown have religious history, but it isn't a fundamental daily part of every student's life. Again, I am not knocking Georgetown, just merely making the point that GT, like all of the other mainstream universities (even those with historically religious roots) are liberal on the grand scale of things. And I think it is simply because of the disproportionate number of professors who align themselves with the "left" as opposed to the right.
|
|
Boz
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
123 Fireballs!
Posts: 10,355
|
Post by Boz on Apr 12, 2006 14:10:30 GMT -5
Awaiting basketball discussion or thread transfer. . . . .
;D ;D
(And yes, I realize I am the most irrelevant poster there is. But I'm also a hypocrite. I've come to terms with that & I'm comfortable with it.)
Not making threats or demands, but I'm going to start posting about religion and politics in South Park if this stays here much longer. . .just saying is all.
|
|