Think The Hatchet has the courage to print this...

[bsloane]

Dear Editor,
As a graduating Georgetown senior, and former section editor, I found
Lamar Thorpe's column, "Georgetown stinks, Let's Prove It," highly
entertaining for its absolute lack of class from what I previously
thought was a respectable university and it's newspaper. I know,
you're independent, you can write what you want, but for a paper that
has won awards as the best student-paper in the country, and "counts
five pulitzer prize winners among its alumni," one would think you
could find better uses for half-a-page.

What a waste of space, paper and energy to publish a column that is so
clearly defined by the inferiority complex of someone who, in all
likelihood, was rejected from Georgetown or probably too scared to
even apply. After decrying us for our ivory tower, and essentially our
perceived elitism, Thorpe attempts to make the case that GW is as
good, if not better as a university than Georgetown because you had
Jon Stewart speak on campus and an alumnus might run for President.

Unlike George Washington, we don't get excited when alumni run for
President. We get excited when they win. Rather than naming
universities after presidents, we produce them. Moreover, we sure as
hell don't write columns boasting about it.

Since September, the anti-Georgetown sentiment from Foggy Bottom is
intense, what with your creative "Edited Georgetown" shirts, and litany
of columns. We don't make shirts and we don't write columns. Why?
Because you guys are so far off of our radar screen that it's
laughable to watch as you try and concoct a rivalry with us in an
obvious attempt to attach yourselves to our storied legacy of
excellence in academics, athletics, and basically everything else
besides whining about the rich kids on the hill.

By the way, good idea calling for a march on our campus when everyone
was clearly going to be watching us play at MCI Center (We can
actually fill the place up...). You guys sure showed us just dumb you
Colonials can be.

Sincerely,
Brandon Sloane
Class of 2006
Your Boss One Day



Somehow I doubt they'll own up to printing our side (or mine, at least) of the argument. After all, the truth hurts...

They're starting to remind me of 'Nova...

[jerseyhoya34]

Standing ovation.... My only question -- Why bother with a letter?

[bsloane]

Because if there has been on redeemable quality of GW it has been The Hatchet, which is clearly better than The Hoya. They blew that out of the water and I wanted to let them know. Plus, as a former editor, I thought it was classless and someone should have known better than to let it through as a reflection of their paper and their school.

Plus, I'm kind of drunk and it gave us a good laugh...

[SoCal Hoya85]

Besides the fact that it acknowledges we had to think about them for a small period of time I really like the letter a lot.

"Since September, the anti-Georgetown sentiment from Foggy Bottom is
intense, what with your creative "Edited Georgetown" shirts, and litany
of columns. We don't make shirts and we don't write columns. Why?
Because you guys are so far off of our radar screen that it's
laughable to watch as you try and concoct a rivalry with us in an
obvious attempt to attach yourselves to our storied legacy of
excellence in academics, athletics, and basically everything else
besides whining about the rich kids on the hill."

Could not have said that better myself, very well written.

[Frank Black]

bsloane said:

Dear Editor,
As a graduating Georgetown senior, and former section editor, I found
Lamar Thorpe's column, "Georgetown stinks, Let's Prove It," highly
entertaining for its absolute lack of class from what I previously
thought was a respectable university and it's newspaper. I know,
you're independent, you can write what you want, but for a paper that
has won awards as the best student-paper in the country, and "counts
five pulitzer prize winners among its alumni," one would think you
could find better uses for half-a-page.

What a waste of space, paper and energy to publish a column that is so
clearly defined by the inferiority complex of someone who, in all
likelihood, was rejected from Georgetown or probably too scared to
even apply. After decrying us for our ivory tower, and essentially our
perceived elitism, Thorpe attempts to make the case that GW is as
good, if not better as a university than Georgetown because you had
Jon Stewart speak on campus and an alumnus might run for President.

Unlike George Washington, we don't get excited when alumni run for
President. We get excited when they win. Rather than naming
universities after presidents, we produce them. Moreover, we sure as
hell don't write columns boasting about it.

Since September, the anti-Georgetown sentiment from Foggy Bottom is
intense, what with your creative "Edited Georgetown" shirts, and litany
of columns. We don't make shirts and we don't write columns. Why?
Because you guys are so far off of our radar screen that it's
laughable to watch as you try and concoct a rivalry with us in an
obvious attempt to attach yourselves to our storied legacy of
excellence in academics, athletics, and basically everything else
besides whining about the rich kids on the hill.

By the way, good idea calling for a march on our campus when everyone
was clearly going to be watching us play at MCI Center (We can
actually fill the place up...). You guys sure showed us just dumb you
Colonials can be.

Sincerely,
Brandon Sloane
Class of 2006
Your Boss One Day



Somehow I doubt they'll own up to printing our side (or mine, at least) of the argument. After all, the truth hurts...

They're starting to remind me of 'Nova...

Seems a bit mean-spirited to me. And for someone who doesn't care about GW, that's a lot of invective. Silence would seem to me to be the ideal response.

[pops21]

I agree that the original article in the Hatchet was stupid the guy who wrote it is clearly an enormous tool. I did not meet anybody who actually took the article seriously and most laughed out loud when the read it for the first time. I don’t think the Hatchet is any worse of a paper because it ran the editorial. The Hatchet is a good paper and I know has been ranked #1 for non-daily student papers in the country recently – and usually provides a good product, especially for free.

I guess what is sad is the tone of both the original article and then this response article. Both are filled with so much unneeded anger. I think most people are much more laid back about the situation and don’t really see a need for so much anger on both sides. Do I want to play Gtown? Sure. Do I loose sleep about it? No. Do most Gtown students want to play GW? Sure. Do they loose sleep about it? No. Most students on both campuses DON’T care and are just counting down the days until they can get drunk again with their friends.

And, to answer your question – No, I don’t think this will get published. But that’s just a guess.

[NickSixers]

I hope that this whole rivalry doesn't come back. It is a no-win situation for Georgetown. If we win, most people will say we ought to win since we are in a bigger conference, have more history, more $$ spent, etc. If we lose, then all the GW people like our friend Lamar come out and we see many more articles such as his. Just doesn't seem like its worth it to me.

[HoyaTex22]

The letter was funny and completely on target. However, as the clear superior in this case, lets try to keep above the fray.

No need to respond to these guys. It would be like the U.S. government reacting to a challenge from the French to play capture the flag. Their gesture would be appreciated, but it wouldn't really merit a response.

Let's speak softly, continue to carry our big stick and just pat the little ankle biters on the head and give them an A for effort. (Besides, based upon that latest Hatchet article, it looks like our local homeless are taking care of it for us.)

[RockawayHoya]

hoyatex22 said:

The letter was funny and completely on target. However, as the clear superior in this case, lets try to keep above the fray.

No need to respond to these guys. It would be like the U.S. government reacting to a challenge from the French to play capture the flag. Their gesture would be appreciated, but it wouldn't really merit a response.

Let's speak softly, continue to carry our big stick and just pat the little ankle biters on the head and give them an A for effort. (Besides, based upon that latest Hatchet article, it looks like our local homeless are taking care of it for us.)

Agree with both Tex and Frank Black. There's no need to even acknowledge such a worthless article even exists, except maybe to laugh about it amongst ourselves and give the few people we know who go to GW a hard time about one of their own embarassing themselves.

[DanMcQ]

I'm with pops21 on this and agree with FB and Tex that silence is the best plan of action.

Others in Foggy Bottom apparently feel the same way:

The Hatchet 2.27.06: Thumbs Up Thumbs Down

Thumbs Down - March on Georgetown

This past Saturday, 15 GW students engaged in what amounted to a pretty funny stunt by marching to Georgetown's campus and demanding a basketball game between the schools. In the process, they also continued to promulgate their inferiority complex with Georgetown and represented the GW student body in that light. If a GW-Georgetown matchup is in the works, it is in the hands of administrators and athletic directors. It is not a problem between student populations - everyone knows that students and the city want to see the game.

[crzyhoya]

Here's a letter that a GW student wrote in response to this ridiculousness...

media.www.gwhatchet.com/media/paper332/news/2006/02/27/Opinions/Letters.To.The.Editor-1638244.shtml?sourcedomain=www.gwhatchet.com&MIIHost=media.collegepublisher.com

[pops21]

crzyhoya - I think the article you posted is how 95% of students feel on campus towards Gtown, hence 15 people out over over 10,000 showed up to that tool's "march." I am glad that the hatchet published it to show the views of a vast majority of students.

[Suzhoya93]

lahoya07 said:

Did you guys read the article on the GW website? The stupidity of this writer is made clear when you read it for yourself. Also, he´s a double major in women´s studies and sociology. I almost laughed when I read that.

Exactly why is it funny that he's a double major in women's studies and soc?

[Saxa71]

Exactly why is it funny that he's a double major in women's studies and soc?
[/quote]


I have always wanted to ask this question but what does one do with a major in women's studies?

By the way for what its worth the response was very funny

[Suzhoya93]

saxa71 said:

Exactly why is it funny that he's a double major in women's studies and soc?

I have always wanted to ask this question but what does one do with a major in women's studies?

By the way for what its worth the response was very funny[/quote]

I agree, the response letter was great.

I would assume one goes one to get a masters and then a ph.d. in women's studies ... (I was a gov't major, theology minor on the law school track with everyone else.) Just stirring the pot here, since my ballroom dancing thread was moved to the 37th and O pages...

[VelvetElvis]

suzhoya93 said:

saxa71 said:

Exactly why is it funny that he's a double major in women's studies and soc?

I have always wanted to ask this question but what does one do with a major in women's studies?

By the way for what its worth the response was very funny

I agree, the response letter was great.

I would assume one goes one to get a masters and then a ph.d. in women's studies ... (I was a gov't major, theology minor on the law school track with everyone else.) Just stirring the pot here, since my ballroom dancing thread was moved to the 37th and O pages... [/quote]

She lives! She lives! - Let me be the first to thank you for starting that OTHER discussion. I would also like to thank you personally for wasting my company's money for several days!

[wildhoya]

this thread stays here but "charlie daniels" does not?

how do you all view this?

hoya saxa

[Filo]

Ah damn. Can't believe the Charlie Daniels thread has been moved. I wanted that thread to go on forever... Or at least until the Hoyas lost another game.

[DanMcQ]

wildhoya said:

this thread stays here but "charlie daniels" does not?

how do you all view this?

hoya saxa

Again, good point. However, Jack already has cranky covered.

On to the B & G to accompany the other WG thread.

[Bando]

filo said:

Ah damn. Can't believe the Charlie Daniels thread has been moved. I wanted that thread to go on forever... Or at least until the Hoyas lost another game.

It lives, I tell you, it lives! Check the 37th&O board, we're on 14 pages now.