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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 11, 2004 11:40:17 GMT -5
Post scores and comments here.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 12:08:33 GMT -5
Change at game time: Keith Allan starts.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 12:33:20 GMT -5
End of 1st quarter, no score. Each team has punted twice.
Attendance looks poor again. Most of the blue seats are empty.
Students? Haven't seen (or heard) them yet.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 12:56:51 GMT -5
5:19 in 2nd, still no score.
Hoya defense has picked up a fumble and an interception, but the offense has one first down in the quarter. Other than Sarin, I don't remember another RB being called. He has 50 yards rushing.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 13:11:25 GMT -5
Lafayette drives 62 yards in final drive to the GU 18, stopped on back to back sacks. 48 yard FG, 3-0, with 0:12 in half.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 14:04:50 GMT -5
Hoya defense forced two turnovers in the third--the first went three and out, the second allowed GU to drive 17 yards to th 14 and settle for the 31 yard field goal.
3:26 in 3rd, 3-3.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 14:11:12 GMT -5
End of 3, 3-3.
Hoyas force fifth turnover, GU at Leopards' seven yard line to begin the fourth.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 14:15:26 GMT -5
Drive stalls again.
25 yard field goal: Hoyas 6-3.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 14:27:15 GMT -5
10:24 in 4th--Keith Allan throws out of his end zone and is picked off at the goal line. Just really bad.
10-6, Lafayette.
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Post by DFW on Sept 11, 2004 14:56:37 GMT -5
Final: 17-6. Leopards went on a 13 play, 66 yard drive, with a pass play on 3rd and 11 at the 20 for the final score.
This offense seems to have only three options:
1. Draw to Sarin. 2. Pitch to Sarin. 3. Sweep to Sarin.
Teams are catching on. Duquesne surely will.
Very poor attendance. (Rant to follow Monday.)
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Post by CAHoya07 on Sept 11, 2004 15:28:39 GMT -5
Hey, about 6 or 7 of us, including me, GUHoya2007, Oklahoyan, and others were right next to the band and yelling for most of the game. But I agree, it was pretty weak.
Note: Bowman, DJ, Green, Crawford, and a few other members of the bball team stopped by for a while. They had a recruit with them, I forget his name.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Sept 11, 2004 15:47:03 GMT -5
Note: Bowman, DJ, Green, Crawford, and a few other members of the bball team stopped by for a while. They had a recruit with them, I forget his name. The recruit was D'Andre Bell.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Sept 11, 2004 16:02:53 GMT -5
I posted something about it already on Hoyareport. Didn't feel like doing it over here, especially on the football board.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Sept 11, 2004 16:11:38 GMT -5
Thanks. Good to see the basketball team supporting the team (well kinda, but at least they were there).
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Post by Joe Hoya on Sept 11, 2004 16:43:51 GMT -5
I was at the game after the first quarter and I must say, the one thing I noticed is that WE DO NOT THROW THE BALL. If you do not stretch the field and throw the occasional deep ball, defenses can sit and wait for you to hand it off or throw a dump-off to someone five yards downfield. When you only throw on third and more than 5, even Pee Wee defenses can see it coming. Personally, I am not a fan of the option, and it almost causes me physical pain to watch our team on offense. Defensively, we turned them over four times, and ended up with a whole six points for the game. The play immediately following a turnover, go deep! It works often enough that it's worth a shot.
In summation, I think we need to spread the ball out, throw it downfield more than 12 yards, and use the shotgun more, because the offensive line played like crap for the most part (on the last drive, Allan was sacked on both second and third down, and then proceeded to throw a 12 yard pass to a diving receiver on 4th-and-14...you absolutely cannot take a sack in a situation like that). In addition, someone needs to teach Allan how to throw a ball away, because he's going to have nasty indigestion tonight from all the leather he ate this afternoon.
Oh, and by the way...
I know we have some New Yorkers on the board who I'm sure are looking forward to tomorrow afternoon's shellacking football game.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Sept 11, 2004 17:50:51 GMT -5
GO GIANTS!!!
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Post by Steve Kurker on Sept 11, 2004 17:59:33 GMT -5
Georgetown up 6-3 pinned down at their own one after a bad kick-off coverage...they give the ball twice to this little pimpsqueek and then throw and interception. This kid is too small to feed to when pinned down...too small period...real ty play calling blew the game.
Kim Sarin # 20 junior / Running Back Height: 5'7'' Weight: 155 lbs. Roseville, Minn. / Cretin-Derham
??? :-[
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Post by FLHoya on Sept 11, 2004 18:57:54 GMT -5
Hey, about 6 or 7 of us, including me, GUHoya2007, Oklahoyan, and others were right next to the band and yelling for most of the game. But I agree, it was pretty weak. I was there too, well, not next to the band but about 10 yards up the field in the top row. Not as much yelling as hand-wringing and pleading all game. In terms of students there, well, I mean yeah I guess it was pretty weak. You essentially had two very small pockets of students--the aforementioned Hoyatalk folks and a group of kids around midfield who are always there. And all the kids tailgating in the parking lot on top of their cars watching over the fence (largest group by far). My comments--well it's clear most people have the same idea about this game. I'm no exception. Really the Georgetown defense deserved better out of this game. Just a superb job all game creating turnovers and pressuring the quarterback. The Lafayette offensive scores were the 2-minute drill in the first half and the final possession of the game, when the D looked gassed. On the last TD, the cornerback in 1-on-1 actually tripped and stumbled during the play, so the Lafayette receiver had an easy one on the fade route (I think he'd have caught it w/0 the slip anyway). The defensive TD, well Allan rolled to his left in the end zone with a two-man pattern to that side and heavy backside pressure. I couldn't see if he was hit as he threw or the ball was tipped at the line--otherwise I can't explain why the ball ended up where it did. Was he really trying to complete that? It pinballed around on the deflection and the Lafayette guy basically caught it in the end zone. I think the whole crowd wanted Allan to just chuck it into the press box. But I'm not on the field playing so I can't say what happened or that I'd have done better. I'm a Hurricanes fan. I watched that game last night, a similar defensive struggle with Miami failing to establish an offensive rythym forever. Here's the analogy that fits in with some of the other comments. Miami finally accomplished something on offense by opening the game up and setting Brock Berlin in the shotgun, where he's much more comfortable. Now, I don't think Keith Allan is as comfortable there. I don't think a shotgun offense is our way to go. What also happened is Miami finally got their playmakers to make plays, by setting them up in the proper situation. So Ryan Moore was dropping passes, they went to Sinorice Moss--who's rather fast. His big plays were a hitch and go route for 60 yards and his jailbreak screen that tied the game. And in the overtime period you saw Miami return to what Frank Gore succeeds with--the isolation running plays that take him off tackle. I like Kim Sarin a lot as a running back--just not precisely how he was used today. He just isn't going to be as efficient running between the tackles as he is in an option set (he's quite good in that) or being allowed time to use his speed and shiftiness. Too many 1 and 2 yard gains between the tackles, which is not his strength as I see it. The receiving corps is a work in progress, I think we'd all like to have pulled Luke McArdle in from the halftime ceremony and suited him up. There just isn't that playmaking ability at the WR position that there was before--so it's hard to realistically dictate a game with the passing attack. There's no person to do what Moss did Friday night--step up and become the go-to playmaker. I know people want us to open up the passing attack. I defer to the offensive coordinator(s) on this--if it doesn't fit our talents at QB, WR, whatever, then it's foolish to go all run-and-shoot on teams. But the problem I saw was this--if it's 3rd and 9, 3rd and 13, etc., what play can the staff call and the team execute that's gonna get us that first down? We just don't seem to have, or didn't seem to execute, much in that area today. The fitting play to me seemed to be our final one--a 4th and 13 incompletion off the TE's hands, who had run a route that took him 12 yards. We'll see how it works out--it's a work in progress, this here offense. I hope some people can work into a solid playmaking role in due time. The defense, however, should be fine. Just wish they'd get some more support. Edit: And, uh, go Falcons. No graphics.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 11, 2004 19:20:34 GMT -5
The problem is not Sarin, but in the overuse of Sarin.
Georgetown had 34 rushing plays (if you don't count sacks). Sarin was on 27 of them. In fact, Sarin was responsible for 50% of all Georgetown's plays, including passes, punts, and penalties. It won't take much for defenses to key on him exclusively, but Sims and Slayton aren't even seeing time.
Right now, the offense has scored two touchdowns all season, with drives of 8 and 20 yards. Every other red zone penetration has settled for field goals. It was 2-15 in third down conversions today.
One running back can't do it all.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Sept 11, 2004 20:13:32 GMT -5
Sims isn't on the team anymore - but it was weird that Slayton didn't play at all today.
Sarin is a good back, but I am pretty sure that he was on the field for every play today, and he got a ton of carries. That is too much work for him - when you have an overworked back, a terrible line and no passing game it is tough to gain yards on the ground.
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