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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 6, 2007 15:01:07 GMT -5
Just a pleasant smack in the face to those who were saying V. Macklin was going to be one and done.
I also recall hearing that would also be the case with Harris from Cuse. Keep in mind that these guys actually have to play the games and compete. I am thrilled to have Macklin for the next few years and this post is a simple reminder that every "one & done" prospect is not a lock.
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Dec 6, 2007 15:05:01 GMT -5
Just a pleasant smack in the face to those who were saying V. Macklin was going to be one and done. I also recall hearing that would also be the case with Harris from Cuse. Keep in mind that these guys actually have to play the games and compete. I am thrilled to have Macklin for the next few years and this post is a simple reminder that every "one & done" prospect is not a lock. I'm glad you can rub this in other people's faces (whoever those people are). I'd rather that Vernon stopped coughing up the ball, stopped laying bricks on free throws, and learned how to do anything with the ball when an open dunk isn't an option. I'll keep the blocks, though.
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Post by the_way on Dec 6, 2007 15:23:37 GMT -5
Yeah, it seemed like he was going to be one and done based on the hype. People were calling him a baby Garnett.
But, he looks more like a 4 year player, imo. I think he is coming along nicely and will be a solid player with JTIII's coaching.
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Post by Boz on Dec 6, 2007 15:51:43 GMT -5
I had a similar thought last night while watching Summers, who everyone thought (or thinks) will be gone after this year.
Don't get me wrong, I want him to have a superlative season even if it means he doesn't come back. But even with the clutch threes, last night he looked like he could use some more time in college.
Of course, then I remembered how Jeff Green started out last season (i.e. - very poorly), and I told myself to shut up and just enjoy watching each Hoya for as long as they are here and stop worrying about how long that would be.
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Post by dajuan on Dec 6, 2007 16:20:44 GMT -5
Just a pleasant smack in the face to those who were saying V. Macklin was going to be one and done. I also recall hearing that would also be the case with Harris from Cuse. Keep in mind that these guys actually have to play the games and compete. I am thrilled to have Macklin for the next few years and this post is a simple reminder that every "one & done" prospect is not a lock. To be honest, I wish Vernon played well enough last year to have been drafted in the 1st round. If he would have done that, then we may have a NCAA Champions banner hanging in the VC now. This isn't to pick on Vern, he's a real talent and a fine player. And the team may have won an NCAA Championship last year had any one player played significantly better last year. I'm just saying your gloating is a little much. You're pretty much patting yourself on the back for Vernon not living up to some people's inflated expectations. Well congratulations, Mivcevich. You really showed us!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 6, 2007 16:28:13 GMT -5
I don't know why you say it's a pleasant smack in the face. There's nothing pleasant about it. I don't get what you're saying. It sound's like good thing he's not so good, that's good for us. that makes no sense.
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Post by RBHoya on Dec 6, 2007 16:32:27 GMT -5
CHH and Boz I think are both a little overstated. By the end of Vernon's senior year most people knew he wasn't going to be able to put it together and head for the NBA after freshman year. Most people even realized that he wasn't going to crack the starting lineup ahead of DaJuan or Pat, so he had little chance to think about the league. Most of the one-and-done hype with Vern was back before his senior year when we were recruiting him, and back then very few had really gone out and watched him. The lesson to be gleaned probably is to not trust the recruiting rankings all that much. Vern was a top 10 prospect before his senior year, then fell to the 30's by the end, and has probably not been even a top 50 player in his class based on what he has shown on the floor so far. Ample time for that to change, though.
On DaJuan, I definitely don't think most people thought he'd be gone after this year. Most people thought he'd be gone after NEXT (his junior) year. Other smaller groups thought that he'd be gone after this year or that he'd stay 4. Either way, it's still impossible to tell. He's the second leading scorer on the #4 team in the country. He hasn't blown us away so far, but that's true of the team in general. As the offense starts clicking, everyone will start to look better, just as they did during that 12 game win streak last year. And if that happens, he may still give the league a look, who knows.
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Post by Dhall on Dec 6, 2007 16:41:44 GMT -5
As dajuan notes, if Macklin was as good as advertised, we would have beaten Ohio State while Roy was on the bench with foul trouble and Jeff was doing nothing.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 6, 2007 17:00:32 GMT -5
you all are ridiculously sensitive! This was simply a point/post about expectations and hype. That was it. Nothing more. We've got four good recruits coming in next year and you all will inevitably inflate your post count through mind numbing obsessive posts about these guys perceived talents and how quickly they will jump at the millions of NBA dollars prior to ever stepping foot on the verizon pine.
Those are the same posters that were saying in 2004 that JW couldn't get us over the hump and that we needed quicker guards and JW would ride pine his junior & senior year when the talent level improved. Just making a point about expectations both high & low.
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Dec 6, 2007 17:05:29 GMT -5
you all are ridiculously sensitive! This was simply a point/post about expectations and hype. That was it. Nothing more. We've got four good recruits coming in next year and you all will inevitably inflate your post count through mind numbing obsessive posts about these guys perceived talents and how quickly they will jump at the millions of NBA dollars prior to ever stepping foot on the verizon pine. Those are the same posters that were saying in 2004 that JW couldn't get us over the hump and that we needed quicker guards and JW would ride pine his junior & senior year when the talent level improved. Just making a point about expectations both high & low. There's a difference between being sensitive and being able to recognize a silly, self-serving, and illogical post.
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Dec 6, 2007 19:41:54 GMT -5
you all are ridiculously sensitive! This was simply a point/post about expectations and hype. That was it. Nothing more. We've got four good recruits coming in next year and you all will inevitably inflate your post count through mind numbing obsessive posts about these guys perceived talents and how quickly they will jump at the millions of NBA dollars prior to ever stepping foot on the verizon pine. Those are the same posters that were saying in 2004 that JW couldn't get us over the hump and that we needed quicker guards and JW would ride pine his junior & senior year when the talent level improved. Just making a point about expectations both high & low. dont worry columbia. he is one of the more ascerbic intolerant posters on the board.
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Post by afalcon10 on Dec 6, 2007 19:58:46 GMT -5
the expectations for Vern were far from realistic, absurdly so. even after 4 years i doubt he will be anywhere near that level.
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