Student Section is Incredible

[jgalt]

Or the guy who was wearing a michigan shirt at the game on Thursday. like midway through the second half it was baskically like everyone noticed him. he could feel the tension and there was fear in his eyes (everyone acted civilly though except we did tell him that he would have to where a "F*** Michigan shirt we had from a Ohio St. UMich game.

But really WHO IS GIVING STUDENT TICKETS TO OPPOSING FANS!!!!!!! the punishment should be immediate loss of season tickets!

[hazardhoya]

"However, is there really any need to assume that the person who yelled at you was a member of Hoya Blue. I know that when I was involved with the group I specifically made sure that Hoya Blue people did not reserve more than a few front row seats. Only the seats right next to the benches on each side were typically Hoya Blue people and I also hear a lot of other random people throughout the student section yelling stuff at their fellow fans, so I wouldnt just jump to conclusions. " GUHoya2007

1. I did not assume that it was Hoya Blue, I merely raised that possibility
2. The area you describe, right by the bench, was where the comment came from.

[hoyaterp25]

My biggest problem with the student section so far is that even though a lot of the problem with people saving seats and then sneaking in friends from above is gone with the whole wristband thing, when we arrived at the Michigan game at 6:30, people were saving almost whole rows of seats. They were filled by gametime, and since I know people got to the game really early for good seats, I'm not saying we deserved seomthing better, but its irritating when one or two people save 10 seats for their friends. I know its a weeknight and theres class and all, but last year Verizon officials stopped you from saving any seats. I wonder why that isnt happening this year

[vcjack]

hoyaterp25 said:

My biggest problem with the student section so far is that even though a lot of the problem with people saving seats and then sneaking in friends from above is gone with the whole wristband thing, when we arrived at the Michigan game at 6:30, people were saving almost whole rows of seats. They were filled by gametime, and since I know people got to the game really early for good seats, I'm not saying we deserved seomthing better, but its irritating when one or two people save 10 seats for their friends. I know its a weeknight and theres class and all, but last year Verizon officials stopped you from saving any seats. I wonder why that isnt happening this year

The Verizon staff is cracking down on saving seats but they are most effective at it in the first couple of rows where they do not tolerate saving seats at all, in fact you have to argue with them if you leave your own seat that you were there in the first place.

The key in all of these issues in the student section that if you think you are being screwed, either by people saving seats or someone yelling at you, be assertive and people will back down.

[I Bleed Hoya Gray]

I was there early on Thursday, and I saw people saving seats in the front row and the Verizon Center people didn't care. One guy ran down to the front row and just sprawled himself on as many of the seats as he could.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

actually this year hoya blue has started a new rule. No hoya blue member is allowed to save a seat in the first row before the game starts. the people with staff passes can get their own seat in the front row if they so choose, but they may not save one for anyone else which means only 4-5 seats on either side are taken up by hoya blue the rest are up for grabs. I'm also fine with people sitting during time outs. I don't think it's best and i think it's easy to stand up the whole game, but no one should be yelled at for it. sitting during the game yes, but sitting when play isn't going on is acceptable.

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hchoya said:

hazardhoya,

maybe these people shouldnt be telling you these things because it should be expected. You should stand during the timeouts. Go to to Duke go to Kansas, go to 'CUse an you will see that they stand during timeouts. If Gtown students want to get the credit they deserve are loyal and great fans they have to do what the other schools have already been doing for so long. I know it sux that you have to stand after you had one too many Heini's the night before but come on, suck it up. You will live, no worries.

I don't think the mindless conformity of Duke, Kansas, SUcks, etc. is what the student section should be aiming for. To be upset with someone who sits during a timeout, and to be so presumptuous as to tell them how they "should" cheer, reeks of a bloated sense of self-importance.

Let people cheer how they want to cheer. They bought the ticket, they're entitled to. And to those of you who are being told you "must" do this or that, my suggestion is to look whoever is giving you this ultimatum square in the eyes, flip them the bird, tell them to f--k off, ignore them for the rest of the game, and be loud and vocal for the Hoyas in your own way.

You curent students are lucky to have a competitive, exciting team on the court. You should be enjoying that more than executing a perfectly synchronized cheer someone thought up in their "Problem of God" class.

[hoyatables]

This thread is delightful. I love how "fun" has rules.

(I write this with complete awareness of my own hypocrisy -- I used to yell at band members to stand all the time. Perspective is a funny thing.)

[vcjack]

buffalohoya said:

hchoya said:

hazardhoya,

maybe these people shouldnt be telling you these things because it should be expected. You should stand during the timeouts. Go to to Duke go to Kansas, go to 'CUse an you will see that they stand during timeouts. If Gtown students want to get the credit they deserve are loyal and great fans they have to do what the other schools have already been doing for so long. I know it sux that you have to stand after you had one too many Heini's the night before but come on, suck it up. You will live, no worries.

Let people cheer how they want to cheer. They bought the ticket, they're entitled to. And to those of you who are being told you "must" do this or that, my suggestion is to look whoever is giving you this ultimatum square in the eyes, flip them the bird, tell them to f--k off, ignore them for the rest of the game, and be loud and vocal for the Hoyas in your own way.

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I agree with you Buff but with one disclaimer; don't expect anyone to hear you if you are doing something by yourself. What's better is if you don't like a cheer, yell louder something else and the rest of the section will follow, and trust me people will follow all on their own and will pick up the general pattern

The general rule for cheering is this, whoever yells the loudest wins

[StPetersburgHoya (Inactive)]

I believe that Hoya Blue should be all things to everyone - and if it fails to personally satisfy every person 100%, that should reflect on its leaders personally.

[RBHoya]

hoyasincebirth said:

actually this year hoya blue has started a new rule. No hoya blue member is allowed to save a seat in the first row before the game starts. the people with staff passes can get their own seat in the front row if they so choose, but they may not save one for anyone else which means only 4-5 seats on either side are taken up by hoya blue the rest are up for grabs. I'm also fine with people sitting during time outs. I don't think it's best and i think it's easy to stand up the whole game, but no one should be yelled at for it. sitting during the game yes, but sitting when play isn't going on is acceptable.

This isn't a new rule, it's an old rule that is being enforced more than ever. There were hundreds of people lined up across multiple entrances, 2 hours before tip off on Thursday. And yes, a lot of these people will sprint into the student section and then sprawl out across as many seats as possible, saving them for friends. If you are not one of the first 20 or so people into the section, you're sitting in the 4th row or so.

But on the real, I am sick of people blaming Hoya Blue for this and/or saying that the Athletic Department blocks off the first few rows for us. Completely untrue. I am glad that people are so enthusiastic about being close to the action, but we don't condone seat saving. It's a tough thing, I understand that people want to be close to the game AND want to sit with their friends. But HB is very careful about self-regulating this, so I would look elsewhere if you are angry about not getting a good enough seat.

There is, of course, a solution to this, that a) fixes most of the problems with seat saving b) enables people to sit close to the court AND sit with their friends and c) ends the stampede phenomenon that is definitely dangerous. Simply use single file lines. It bottlenecks the flow of people into the stadium, so there is no need to sprint, thereby eliminating the stampede. Also, if the line is single file, and both you and your friend arrived early to the arena, then you will be standing consecutively in line, and thus you will have no problem getting a seat next to one another and near the action in an environment where the flow of people is constricted. Finally, constricting the flow of people into the arena via a single file line means that all the ushers only need to police a few people at a time to make sure that they are not saving seats. As it stands now the gates open and its absolute bedlam, and so I don't blame the ushers for not being able to tell what's going on. If you restrict the flow, you control the environment, and the Verizon Center staff can then do their jobs.

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vcjack said:

I agree with you Buff but with one disclaimer; don't expect anyone to hear you if you are doing something by yourself. What's better is if you don't like a cheer, yell louder something else and the rest of the section will follow, and trust me people will follow all on their own and will pick up the general pattern

The general rule for cheering is this, whoever yells the loudest wins

The whole point is people shouldn't be hassled for not behaving like they "should."

If someone wants to start a new cheer, go ahead... shout it out. If someone just wants to stand there, watch the game, cheer once in a while, ignore the fight song, sit during timeouts... go ahead, have a blast.

[The Stig]

buffalohoya said:

vcjack said:

I agree with you Buff but with one disclaimer; don't expect anyone to hear you if you are doing something by yourself. What's better is if you don't like a cheer, yell louder something else and the rest of the section will follow, and trust me people will follow all on their own and will pick up the general pattern

The general rule for cheering is this, whoever yells the loudest wins

The whole point is people shouldn't be hassled for not behaving like they "should."

If someone wants to start a new cheer, go ahead... shout it out. If someone just wants to stand there, watch the game, cheer once in a while, ignore the fight song, sit during timeouts... go ahead, have a blast.

There's a time for conformity and a time for creativity. If half the student section is already chanting "Let's go Hoyas!" you want the other half to do the same thing, preferably in unison. That's why Hoya Blue has yell leaders. That's not the time for somebody to start shouting out a new cheer.

But well-timed and clever creativity is good. Last year somebody (a non-HB member) started shouting "That's not Christian!" to an Oral Roberts player after a scuffle on the court. The people around him picked it up, the HB yell leaders picked it up, and eventually both student sections joined in. It was great stuff, and was a big contribution to a superb performance by the student section that night.

Another great dose of creativity was the random animal costumes that showed up last year. Conformity says you should wear grey, but when you've got something that brilliant I think it's okay to stray from the norm. As long as it increases the level of spirit in the student section it's all good in my book.

[hoyaterp25]

For the record, I totally do not think its Hoya Blue's fault that people save like 10 seats for friends. I blame VC for not enforcing the same rules they did last year- because its disappointing to walk into a section that looks half full and realize you have to take seats in the bakc of hte section b/c most of them are reserved.

[hoyatables]

vcjack said:

buffalohoya said:

Let people cheer how they want to cheer. They bought the ticket, they're entitled to. And to those of you who are being told you "must" do this or that, my suggestion is to look whoever is giving you this ultimatum square in the eyes, flip them the bird, tell them to f--k off, ignore them for the rest of the game, and be loud and vocal for the Hoyas in your own way.

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I agree with you Buff but with one disclaimer; don't expect anyone to hear you if you are doing something by yourself. What's better is if you don't like a cheer, yell louder something else and the rest of the section will follow, and trust me people will follow all on their own and will pick up the general pattern

The general rule for cheering is this, whoever yells the loudest wins

There was a time not too long ago that you could yell something by yourself and be heard easily. These are all happy problems to have .

[Hoya06]

too much co-ordination and other planned activities and all of a sudden gtown will look like PUKE. watch yourselves students...

[vcjack]

hoya06 said:

too much co-ordination and other planned activities and all of a sudden gtown will look like PUKE. watch yourselves students...

Don't worry, its a lot less organized than you might think. Its more getting a feel for the game and yelling what you think would work and if people like it, it sticks

[AustinHoya03]

thestig said:

There's a time for conformity and a time for creativity.

Is it just me, or does that sound like the beginning of a post by The Attorney General?

[vcjack]

austinhoya03 said:

thestig said:

There's a time for conformity and a time for creativity.

Is it just me, or does that sound like the beginning of a post by The Attorney General?

The New Zealand neocons must be getting to The Stig

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austinhoya03 said:

Is it just me, or does that sound like the beginning of a post by The Attorney General?

The AG gave his farwell post a few months ago. If you check, he even deleted his account.

And like that... *poof*... he's gone.