tal1286
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Post by tal1286 on Nov 19, 2007 10:02:09 GMT -5
The fear of sitting in the 400's is an amazing motivator. Fact. Also... I think we could get the entire stadium in grey but we would have to advertise it. We can't just expect a lot of people to decide to wear grey just because the student's do it. If we start advertising for the Louisville game or some other big home game now that we want everyone to wear grey, you could get the whole stadium in grey. Basically what I'm trying to say is I think you'd need to advertise.
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Post by I Bleed Hoya Gray on Nov 19, 2007 10:05:39 GMT -5
I don't agree at all about the young alum section. Young alums are not students. Sure they should wear gray, but this is basketball, not soccer. People don't need to stand the whole time. Students, definitely. But fans who pay a lot more for their seats should be able to sit in them.
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kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Nov 19, 2007 10:11:59 GMT -5
If city-wide NBA teams can pull off a monochromatic scheme, why can't a tight-knit community like Georgetown do it? GREY-OUT THE BOOTH!! LETS SHOW THE NATION WE'RE THE #1 FANS!!! It's because they [usually] leave the t-shirts on each seat before the game. Much different than expecting everyone to come from home/work wearing the same color.
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Nov 19, 2007 10:24:53 GMT -5
There's never been anything that I've seen that's been specific about wearing gray save for some really small things done on Microsoft Word that said "Next Time, I'll Wear Gray". No Wa-Post ads to "Gray Out" Verizon. No announcements from the PA.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Nov 19, 2007 10:30:35 GMT -5
Any season ticket holder who hasn't picked up that you should wear gray by now is never going to do it - unless you leave the shirt on his/her seat and even then, half will stuff the shirt under the seat. Can't hurt to try something though.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Nov 19, 2007 10:51:56 GMT -5
-I try to remember the "Bleed Blue, Wear Gray" motto when I can. It still doesn't come naturally though; I think the occasional reminder on the super-awesome big screen at the Phone booth would help it sink in. As would repeat mentions on this board.
-Based on prior experience with the Gtown alumni/fanbase, I strongly recommend against making too much of a public effort for a "Gray Out" day, simply because we're not the type that's good at following directions/obeying orders in general. At least altruistically- If you offered some kind of "Wear Gray, Get Free Chicken Fingers" you're guaranteed a grayout.
-I heard an awful lot of "Down in Front" on Saturday. From Gtown fans. From not-too-elderly Gtown fans. "Fans." /sigh
-All in all, I've been really impressed by the energy levels at both home games thus far. I don't know who deserves the credit, but the atmosphere Saturday in particular felt like a regular-season game against a quality BE opponent. Way to go guys! P.S.- Is it just me or is the Shake Cam a nice addition to the gameday line up? Has anyone tried the free Chik-fil-a shake yet?
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JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Nov 19, 2007 11:17:33 GMT -5
You all realize that half the people who are in the alumni sections right now aren't the actual season ticket holders themselves, right?
And the ones who are just...don't...care.
Most of the people who sit along the sidelines have more than a few things to worry about besides Hoya basketball and going to those games are a chance for them to RELAX. They see the games not as an opportunity to get rowdy, but take a break from the gazzillion and half other important things they are doing outside of the Verizon Center. It may seem shocking, but from my experience, but most came last week to see the folks they sit with, not the Hoyas cream the Wolverines.
If you want to find alums and booster clubs full of people whose lives are dedicated to the program, move to Syracuse, where pumping gas isn't a big deal and they have time to plan their lives around basketball games.
It's not that they don't want to wear grey, it's just wearing grey or finding a WAG shirt might be #78 on the to do list for the week. Trying to convert 55 year old men into rabid ex-students is just not going to happen.
The way you improve it is by impressing it upon the YOUNG ALUMS so it becomes a tradition with them and when THEY are eventually sitting in those sections, maybe them and their kids will wear grey "because that's what mommy and daddy always do."
But section 100? LOST CAUSE. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. NEVER EVER GONNA HAPPEN.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 19, 2007 11:33:54 GMT -5
Wear anything gray, it doesnt even have to be a We Are Georgetown shirt. Of course there should be more promotion of this concept on stuff like the jumbotron, the tickets and so on saying something like "Wear Gray to the Game!" However, its a pretty basic concept and you would think people would catch on a little quicker after looking at the students. Ads promoting: "I See Gray People" and "Gray Days" That would appropriate how the Giants promote home games out here in the Bay Area.
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Cambridge
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 19, 2007 11:37:53 GMT -5
For the alums it doesn't have to be a gray t-shirt. Suggestions:
Gray scarf Gray suit Gray and blue tie Gray shirt
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 11:38:17 GMT -5
But section 100? LOST CAUSE. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. NEVER EVER GONNA HAPPEN. HEY!!! I sit in Section 100! I'm not a Young Alum anymore, but I don't consider myself an old alum quite yet either. As for rowdiness: I pick my spots. Weekend game against a Big East rival? I'm bringing it. Just ask all the people in my section who hate me. Weeknight blowout against an overmatched Michigan team? Well, I spent much of the 2nd half on Thursday night chatting with the guys in my season ticket group, paying mild attention to the game. No apologies for that - I don't often get to see these guys, and it's nice to catch up and hear about people's jobs and wives and kids from time to time.
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Post by hazardhoya on Nov 19, 2007 11:40:15 GMT -5
As a student I have one major problem with the current student section. I really resent the way some students tell other students the best way to root for the Hoyas. Now I am a big fan who has been to the games from the past two years, I follow the team closely, and I enjoy the game of basketball as a former Varsity player in high school. For the W & M game, I arrive to the arena early with some friends to get good seats. Being slightly hungover and tired from a long week I decide that today I will sit down DURING TIMEOUTS but I am really into the game while it is going on. Sitting up near the front of the section I am told during a timeout that I NEED to stand up. A comment comes from the first row that, "only people who stand up during the entire should get the seats closest to the court." I assume that the first row was someone from Hoya Blue because those seats are normally reserved for them. I respond by telling them that they have no right demand any behavior from me and that I am loudly supporting the team which is much more important than standing when the game is not being played. That entire experience made me and my friends not want to sit up front for the UM game.
It is unnecessary for students (possibly in this case from Hoya Blue???) who try to encourage fan support to tell other students what they NEED to do and making ridiculous statements such as "only students who stand during the entire game should be allowed to sit close to court." Such statements only make the Georgetown basketball experience less enjoyable for others which is not what I believe the person intended. I hope that all students realize that the best way to build a great basketball atmosphere is to lead and let others follow at their own pace (as has happened over the past two years that I have been here), and not act as jerks who tell other students what to do.
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Post by hoyatables on Nov 19, 2007 11:40:18 GMT -5
Jimmy, that is a reasonable position. And from what I see many of the young alums in 121 do try to wear gray, at least when feasible. You'll see this a lot more on weekend games than on weekdays, when many of us are coming straight from the office.
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Post by nodak89 on Nov 19, 2007 11:41:35 GMT -5
Maybe there could be a Rival Reels contest to promote wearing gray to the game?
Put the winning entries on the scoreboard video screen. The 15 second Rival Rants (unadultered media flooziness) are not that interesting. 15 seconds of howling is not a great format to be creative and do something cool.
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Post by hchoya on Nov 19, 2007 12:05:44 GMT -5
hazardhoya,
maybe these people shouldnt be telling you these things because it should be expected. You should stand during the timeouts. Go to to Duke go to Kansas, go to 'CUse an you will see that they stand during timeouts. If Gtown students want to get the credit they deserve are loyal and great fans they have to do what the other schools have already been doing for so long. I know it sux that you have to stand after you had one too many Heini's the night before but come on, suck it up. You will live, no worries.
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Post by I Bleed Hoya Gray on Nov 19, 2007 12:15:41 GMT -5
I agree with Nodak about the rival reels.
But seriously people, if you think standing the entire game is how you define a good fan, then you are mistaken. I stood in the front row of the student section for 5 years, getting to the games early and rushing to my seat my four years at Georgetown and the year before while I was still in high school but had a GU student ID. I watched the games and cared about the team. I still do. I have watched the Hoyas since I was born, and I follow the team as passionately as anyone. But in the alum section, I don't think I need to stand the entire game. There are people behind me who want to sit and watch the game. They paid for seats, not for the student section.
Wearing gray is one thing. You can want the entire arena to do that. You can also want the entire arena to watch the games and pay attention to the action. Talking about nonsense with the people sitting next to you isn't the best way to show your support, but sitting does not equate with not paying attention.
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Post by royski on Nov 19, 2007 12:18:36 GMT -5
Agreed. There should be no complaints about standing up during timeouts. Seriously. Football stadiums can get their fans to stand up on BLEACHERS for much longer than a half of a basketball game. You get to pay a student price, the least you can do is cheer like a student.
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Post by RBHoya on Nov 19, 2007 12:26:04 GMT -5
As a student I have one major problem with the current student section. I really resent the way some students tell other students the best way to root for the Hoyas. Now I am a big fan who has been to the games from the past two years, I follow the team closely, and I enjoy the game of basketball as a former Varsity player in high school. For the W & M game, I arrive to the arena early with some friends to get good seats. Being slightly hungover and tired from a long week I decide that today I will sit down DURING TIMEOUTS but I am really into the game while it is going on. Sitting up near the front of the section I am told during a timeout that I NEED to stand up. A comment comes from the first row that, "only people who stand up during the entire should get the seats closest to the court." I assume that the first row was someone from Hoya Blue because those seats are normally reserved for them. I respond by telling them that they have no right demand any behavior from me and that I am loudly supporting the team which is much more important than standing when the game is not being played. That entire experience made me and my friends not want to sit up front for the UM game. It is unnecessary for students (possibly in this case from Hoya Blue???) who try to encourage fan support to tell other students what they NEED to do and making ridiculous statements such as "only students who stand during the entire game should be allowed to sit close to court." Such statements only make the Georgetown basketball experience less enjoyable for others which is not what I believe the person intended. I hope that all students realize that the best way to build a great basketball atmosphere is to lead and let others follow at their own pace (as has happened over the past two years that I have been here), and not act as jerks who tell other students what to do. Who had reply #30 in the pool?
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Post by vcjack on Nov 19, 2007 12:44:13 GMT -5
Agreed. There should be no complaints about standing up during timeouts. Seriously. Football stadiums can get their fans to stand up on BLEACHERS for much longer than a half of a basketball game. You get to pay a student price, the least you can do is cheer like a student. Eh, I don't really care if people sit during timeouts, it doesn't make a difference if they are people who are otherwise loud and supportive. Sorry someone snapped at you hazard What is expected, however, is that you really have to go along with what everyone else is doing. The booth is just too big for individual chants or yelling to stand out, the only way the student section is effective is if everyone is doing the same thing.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 19, 2007 12:51:12 GMT -5
How does standing during timeouts support the team? I'm with Hazard - let the hungover people recover a bit.
I love having a great student section, but man, this doesn't need to be regulated.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Nov 19, 2007 12:51:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean, I don't find it ideal, but I can live with a student sitting during a timeout as long as they are really into it during the action. You would think an 18-22 year old would be able to find the strength to stand the whole time unless they were sick or injured, but whatever.
However, is there really any need to assume that the person who yelled at you was a member of Hoya Blue. I know that when I was involved with the group I specifically made sure that Hoya Blue people did not reserve more than a few front row seats. Only the seats right next to the benches on each side were typically Hoya Blue people and I also hear a lot of other random people throughout the student section yelling stuff at their fellow fans, so I wouldnt just jump to conclusions.
It's important to remember that unity is crucial, so we should try to encourage our fellow fans to do stuff rather than simply yell at them. Unless of course they are doing something absolutely inexcusable, like wearing a Syracuse jersey or something.
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